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Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150:507]

Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

shrubnose said:
Then why are so many unarmed young Black men getting shot and killed by cops all over the USA?
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there arent.. again.. can you site a vaild source other then parroting Sharpton?
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Mason66 said:
HI Pol, you are right about the looting but by the time this goes to trial, all that will be forgotten and only the white on black killing will be in the news.

People only see what the news stations allow them to see.
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You're probably right, but I think we'll be seeing a lot of videos reminding people of what happened - brought to the public's attention again by those who have the money and the clout to fight back. It won't be all one-sided this time, and it might make a difference. I can already hear the cursing.... :mrgreen:
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

shrubnose said:
Wrong.

I was born in the USA in 1943.
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well then you should know better ..

again site your source
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

mac said:
It is reasonable to speculate that it forced his head down, or that he may have been falling at the time the final shot struck the top of his head.
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I think this is by far the most likely scenario based on all the witness reports so far. The polarized narratives of "Execution style muder" and "Drooling charging madman" seem both unlikely to me, and it is disturbing to me that most people seem to take a presupposition and support it with whatever narrative they can concoct.

The real salient questions are:

1. Was officer Wilson attacked through the car window. The medical reports for him will help here.
2. Was Brown acting aggressively after turning towards the officer. This is going to be harder to establish one way or the other, I think.

Officer Wilson used deadly force.

The question that matters is: was he justified in doing so?

The fact people answer this question based on their worldview is wrong. The question must be answered on the facts.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Travis007 said:
there arent.. again.. can you site a vaild source other then parroting Sharpton?
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There are several. It happens a lot. But it isn't a race thing. It is an inner city crime culture thing. Hispanics get shot too. And so do white thug kids. It just isn't as frequent. That is your better argument.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
I have personally heard at least four witnesses say that Brown was not being aggressive when he was shot down with at least six shots.
That's grounds for enough doubt to have a trial ...don't you think?
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Absolutely not. Not even close. And if you were honest about this you also would have mentioned that you have heard stories that directly contradict each other because it has been well publicized and there is no way that you didn't hear or read it. I could give two ****s less if you want the cop strung up immediately. We have due process in this country and if you don't like it, too ****ing bad.
 
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cAPSLOCK said:
I think this is by far the most likely scenario based on all the witness reports so far. The polarized narratives of "Execution style muder" and "Drooling charging madman" seem both unlikely to me, and it is disturbing to me that most people seem to take a presupposition and support it with whatever narrative they can concoct.

The real salient questions are:

1. Was officer Wilson attacked through the car window. The medical reports for him will help here.
2. Was Brown acting aggressively after turning towards the officer. This is going to be harder to establish one way or the other, I think.

Officer Wilson used deadly force.

The question that matters is: was he justified in doing so?

The fact people answer this question based on their worldview is wrong. The question must be answered on the facts.
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Bingo. It is hard to fight through all the BS to find out if he was justified. Evidence DOES suggest he was, but it will not be confirmed yet for a while.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Ockham said:
He will be charged with murder if there is sufficient evidence, not because someone wants to push and demagogue a particular narrative for a political agenda. Which is disgusting by the way.
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LIKE. LIKE. A thousand times, LIKE.

Thank God we have not completely become a culture of idiots.

Close though, I am afraid.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

cAPSLOCK said:
LIKE. LIKE. A thousand times, LIKE.

Thank God we have not completely become a culture of idiots.

Close though, I am afraid.
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We're precariously close.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Travis007 said:
Im a strong beleiver in allowing the cops to do their job ... unless you dont want to attract good people to become cops
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As long as their job isn't to shoot down unarmed people over walking in the street.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

stonewall50 said:
There are several. It happens a lot. But it isn't a race thing. It is an inner city crime culture thing. Hispanics get shot too. And so do white thug kids. It just isn't as frequent. That is your better argument.
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again.. the question was posed as "unarmed ( aka innocent) young black men" are getting shot for no reason as a practice ... and thats simply not true.. no cop is doing that..
 
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Texmex said:
As long as their job isn't to shoot down unarmed people over walking in the street.
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that does not happen... and didnt happen here...
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

cAPSLOCK said:
I think this is by far the most likely scenario based on all the witness reports so far. The polarized narratives of "Execution style muder" and "Drooling charging madman" seem both unlikely to me, and it is disturbing to me that most people seem to take a presupposition and support it with whatever narrative they can concoct.

The real salient questions are:

1. Was officer Wilson attacked through the car window. The medical reports for him will help here.
2. Was Brown acting aggressively after turning towards the officer. This is going to be harder to establish one way or the other, I think.

Officer Wilson used deadly force.

The question that matters is: was he justified in doing so?

The fact people answer this question based on their worldview is wrong. The question must be answered on the facts.
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also officer Wilson could not see properly due to his eye being damaged from the beating.. then moments later Brown rushed him knowing Wilson was injured and weakened and had already tried to get Wilsons gun away from him in the squad car..

Brown was rage filled thinking he was going to be locked up for the strong arm theft he had just commited and it looks like Karma got him
 
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Travis007 said:
that does not happen... and didnt happen here...
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I'm not sure you are correct. Let the facts play out for themselves. I tend to think this officer went overboard. I bet if this officer could do it over, he would have handled this situation differently.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Holmes was armed to the teeth with several weapons and he was taken into custody without so much as a scratch.
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Perhaps he gave up instead of attacking the cops

Its pretty easy to NOT get shot by cops

They KNOW they are living in a digital world where everyone has a smart phone

So do you think this cop just said "hell with it, ima kill me a black kid, youtube be damned"

If you do, then i question your intelligence
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Texmex said:
I'm not sure you are correct. Let the facts play out for themselves. I tend to think this officer went overboard. I bet if this officer could do it over, he would have handled this situation differently.
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yea.. next time he should shoot first (joking )before getting his face smashed in and possible loss of vision...how dare the cop tell this thug to stop walking down the middle of the road..

Id bet Mike Brown would like a do over also..RIP
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

shrubnose said:
Cite your own source.

I don't do lazy people's research for them.
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You made the claim.. back it up.. you cant back it up is the your real problem
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Sabanist said:
Perhaps he gave up instead of attacking the cops

Its pretty easy to NOT get shot by cops

They KNOW they are living in a digital world where everyone has a smart phone

So do you think this cop just said "hell with it, ima kill me a black kid, youtube be damned"

If you do, then i question your intelligence
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I agree.. you nailed it
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

shrubnose said:
Who's Sharpton?

I'm not familiar with that name.
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huh?..if you dont know Sharpton then you are not following this story... and why am I talking with someone who doesnt
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

shrubnose said:
I'm just going to predict that it won't mean a thing at that cops murder trial, if there is one.

He didn't have that toxicology report when he was pulling that trigger.
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It'll play a small part. Mainly to counter the choir-boy claim the prosecution will try to make. The cop didn't need to know it to determine his life was in danger.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown

shrubnose said:
And also that the cop started something that he couldn't handle physically so he ended up putting 6 bullets in an unarmed 18-year old Black man.
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The cop wasn't "starting something" the cop was doing his job.

This kind of reminds me of the Zimmerman/Martin case.
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Kinda like how oranges remind you of apples?
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Texmex said:
If anything, that would have made him less combative.
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If he was stoned, maybe. It could be in his system up to thirty days or more after use.
 
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