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Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150:507]

Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

apdst said:
That's why Liberals are so dangerous.
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About 30-years from now when the massive demographic change that's coming at the GOP like a tidal wave finally hits and it's reduced to a minor, regional party or joins the Whigs, then you'll have something to complain about. The clock is ticking.

No one can stop time, and/or change.




"What goes around.comes around."

Wait and see. :roll:
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

mac said:
You are leaning forward which puts your head at a downward angle, it's completely reasonable that his head was then forced further down by the previous shot.
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Again, you're not correct. You don't drop your head until you're in range to do so. If you do, you run the risk of not seeing your target move. I'm hoping you played football before... if so, just think about when you drop your head to actually tackle someone. You keep your eyes on the target, head up... not up high, but your eyes locked on your target.

The last thing you want is to get juked and end up on your face.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown

Excon said:
You already know.
And obviously are just playing a game again.
You can't even address the videos that have shown you to be wrong.

So tell me. WHat about the revealed informatiopn are you confused about?
The actual actions are corroborated by Dorian the cohort. The Officer went on his way and then backed up. (which you were wrong about)
So what about that which was revealed do you not comprehend?
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You put your faith in anonymous hear-say testimony?
Oh yeah when it gets the murderer of an unarmed black teen off that's " reliable evidence".:lamo:lamo
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Buck Ewer said:
I present the case that these could be the facts.
I never called for a lynching.
Only that with this much evidence he should be charged with murder.
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Of course you would never call for a lynching out loud. You did it subconsciously.

And no, there's not enough evidence to make a decision like that. Ballistics, toxicology are all yet to be released. In fact, the current evidence lends credence to Wilson's version of events.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Excon said:
Are you suggesting Brown was knowledgeable about such?
And that he always did so?

I hope not.
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I'm saying no one charges blindly. We tend to keep our eyes trained on our target.

In fact, most people don't even drop their heads, which is why someone who is knowledge tends to win against someone who isn't. They get lower than the other guy, stiffen their neck and shoulders, and hits with more force because of it.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

mac said:
Possible, but not "more logical". He could simply had been falling forward from the previous shot.
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Surrendering.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Buck Ewer said:
The police report SHOULD have been a matter of public record on the day it was filed. That is Missouri state law.
I believe the report is being held" so that it can be re-written to fit the evidence and get a murderer free.
BTW I am not alone in this suspicion.
This is exactly what Holder and the Feds are looking at.
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It is a suspicion. Just as it is a suspicion that Brown attacked Wilson or that an innocent man will be charged and life ruined for nothing more than political expediency. That is why the right thing to do is wait for the investigation to run its course and trust Holder to do his job instead of potentially screwing this officer over.
 
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Tettsuo said:
I'm saying no one charges blindly.
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Then you do not know what you are talking about.

And still. The eyewitness account says he was running at the Officer who was shooting at him.
Go figure, huh?
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown

Buck Ewer said:
You put your faith in anonymous hear-say testimony?
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Holy ****! Is that what I said?
Or did I say that such information is the same that has been released?

Buck Ewer said:
Oh yeah when it gets the murderer of an unarmed black teen off that's " reliable evidence".
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Check yourself.
Do you really think that the Chief is going to purposely release false info? If you think that, your thoughts are illogical to an extreme.
He may have been mistaken at one point, but he wasn't purposely releasing false info.
Especially as we know that at some point the Officer's account will be available.
 
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Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

mac said:
If Michael Brown had been white, just assaulted a store clerk during a robbery and then assaulted the police officer that shot him....would you guys also automatically assume the cop was guilty of murder?
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All other things being equal?
Yes.
By taking the element of racial bias out of the situation you do not make the actual case look any less racially motivated. You only make it look worse.
 
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mac said:
It's been reported that there was marijuana in his system.
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It's also been "reported" that Wilson hated blacks... Evidence?
I didn't think so.
 
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mac said:
It's been reported that there was marijuana in his system.
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By who?

If someone has marijuana in their system is that a valid reason to shoot and kill them? If so a lot of people in the USA need to stay off of the streets.
 
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BretJ said:
If the grand jury finds the facts and circumstances of the shooting warrant charges and a trial, then it should go to trial. That is how it works or at least how it is supposed to work. He deserves that respect. If not, you are acting as judge, jury and executioner which oddly enough, seems to be what the lynch mob wants to hang him for.
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What " lynch mob"?
Did you see anyone with a rope?
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

shrubnose said:
About 30-years from now when the massive demographic change that's coming at the GOP like a tidal wave finally hits and it's reduced to a minor, regional party or joins the Whigs, then you'll have something to complain about. The clock is ticking.

No one can stop time, and/or change.




"What goes around.comes around."

Wait and see. :roll:
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People have been making these kinds of statements since 1776 and the country is still standing. IMHO, this country would go down the toilet if either party became a dominant majority, be it the robber barons style Republicans or the cat people style Democrats. (Cat people as in "I want to save all the cats. Takes in so many cats that they end up running out of resources and ends up living in squallor and worse off than had they just left them alone.") The politcal parties are supposed to blunt the excesses of the other.
 
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Excon said:
Are you suggesting Brown was knowledgeable about such?
And that he always did so?

I hope not.
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Try sprinting as fast as you can. When you begin your sprint and into your sprint, check the orientation of your head.
 
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contrapositive said:
Try sprinting as fast as you can. When you begin your sprint and into your sprint, check the orientation of your head.
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:doh

You need to be telling that to the other poster.
I have had folks charge me. Some did it blindly, head fully down. Which is what the point was about.

Not about it being tilted in a downward fashion as everybody should know happens.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
What " lynch mob"?
Did you see anyone with a rope?
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Oh! Oh! I saw hundreds rioting, looting and hurling objects at the police officers, all crying for Wilson to be convicted. I saw reports of gunfire within the crowd. I saw graffiti such as "Snitches get stitches." I saw numerous death threats.

Does that count, or do we still need a rope?
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Excon said:
:doh

You need to be telling that to the other poster.
I have had folks charge me. Some did it blindly, head fully down. Which is what the point was about.

Not about it being tilted in a downward fashion as everybody should know happens.
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I was supporting your point. (sorry for wrong reply).
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

contrapositive said:
Try sprinting as fast as you can. When you begin your sprint and into your sprint, check the orientation of your head.
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It's up, looking at where you're going.

What? Do you run forward blindly?
 
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Excon said:
First of all, what you have said is not what they have said.
Secondly, what you have said is contradicted by actual eyewitness account.
Nothing you can or could suggest can change that.
Brown was running at the Officer when the Officer was firing at him.
Again, nothing can change that account accept the witness.

And on top of what has been revealed by the Chief we have the following information.


It is why we hear there are 12 witnesses that agree with the hearsay account that was reported.
This is why Don Lemon has reported that Official sources have confirmed that that hearsay account is accurate.

So the likely hood that what has been revealed is false by the Chief is just absurd. And opposing it is illogical.
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Conflicting testimony needs to be weighed by a jury and Judge, not by press conferences and newsmen...
There is nothing in this evidence that is cut and dry.
Wilson must be charged so that we can find out what is the truth and what is not, in a trial.
If Wilson is not charged we will have a world of hurt on our hands because of the appearance of impropriety.
No one will be willing to just forget about this.
Is that what you want?
Do you believe that is in the best interests of Ferguson?
 
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grip said:
Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source | Fox News





If this article is accurate, they're going to have a hard time indicting Officer Wilson. If the dash and body cams have any footage, along with testimonies and corroborating evidence that exonerate him, will this become a 'flash point' for more riots/protests?
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It seems that he should be charged with and convicted of voluntary manslaughter.
 
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BretJ said:
People have been making these kinds of statements since 1776
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and the country is still standing. IMHO, this country would go down the toilet if either party became a dominant majority, be it the robber barons style Republicans or the cat people style Democrats. (Cat people as in "I want to save all the cats. Takes in so many cats that they end up running out of resources and ends up living in squallor and worse off than had they just left them alone.") The politcal parties are supposed to blunt the excesses of the other.
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Get back with me in 30-years and tell me all about it.

Right now I'm not buying what you're trying to sell.




"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown

Buck Ewer said:
You put your faith in anonymous hear-say testimony?
Oh yeah when it gets the murderer of an unarmed black teen off that's " reliable evidence".:lamo:lamo
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Why do people seem to highlight the fact that the was a teen or unarmed? Do either of those facts indicate he was not a danger to someone? He was a very large human capable of killing someone without being "armed". So what if he was a teen or "unarmed"?
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

contrapositive said:
Of course you would never call for a lynching out loud. You did it subconsciously.

And no, there's not enough evidence to make a decision like that. Ballistics, toxicology are all yet to be released. In fact, the current evidence lends credence to Wilson's version of events.
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Now you can read my subconscious thoughts? Was I hypnotized?
We have yet to hear Wilson's version of events. His report on the incident has still not been released contrary to Missouri state law... why do you suppose that is?
 
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