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Breaking Report: P.O. Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture of eye [W:142]

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Really? Copying a picture from another site? Tell me where the HIPAA violation on that is.
It's not anyone in the hospital leaking it, so your HIPAA violation is out. If you'd bothered to read the article you'd have seen where it cites an anonymous source in the DAs office which they deny.
 
Breaking Report: P.O. Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture of eye ...

So... that is all you have....

People love to talk about how there is "institutional racism" in this country. And they are right. But the racism perpetrated by the "institution" is put in place to give another person advantage of others forsaking all other reasons except one... the color of skin.

I don't think it gives anyone an advantage. I think it is the institution saying that there is no way a black person can do this on there own...so we have to help them. That to me is the worst kind of racism present in our country (in large scale).
 
Re: Breaking Report: P.O. Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture of eye [W:1

So any news this morning?
 
Re: Breaking Report: P.O. Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture of eye ...

I don't think it gives anyone an advantage. I think it is the institution saying that there is no way a black person can do this on there own...so we have to help them. That to me is the worst kind of racism present in our country (in large scale).


Either way you look at them, those policies are either racist against blacks, or racist against non blacks.
 
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Either way you look at them, those policies are either racist against blacks, or racist against non blacks.

The message is inherently racist against blacks. How the hell can you claim to be equal if you are given a leg up in a competition? You can't. And that is BS.
 
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I'm not talking about the grants and small scholarships through PRIVATE GROUPS such as you listed. I'm talking about the ones REQUIRED BY LAW to "achieve diversity". Which are based strictly upon SKIN COLOR. See the link... And the grade point average of the students are NOT a FACTOR...just skin color.

Diversity Matters

Did you know that "Irish" is a race. So is "Scandinavian". So is "Sikh". So is "German".

I'm half Irish and half German. How come I don't get to choose them when I'm identifying my race on the Census?
 
Re: Breaking Report: P.O. Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture of eye sock

How many seconds does it take for the eye to swell shut?

Depends on how forceful the blow is. But any blow to the face such as being claimed will make it virtually impossible for the cop to see out of that eye CLEARLY .
 
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Not necessarily. When I think "hospitalized," I don't even think of treatment in an ER; I think "admitted" and "given a room." I was in an ER basically all day yesterday, and the big question for me was would the person I was with be "hospitalized."

Some major surgeries are performed these days on a day-stay/out-patient basis, and you could have your gall bladder removed in the morning and be home by early afternoon.

Yes, necessarily. Whenever you are given a bed you are considered "hospitalized" for billing purposes and legal purposes. Hospitalized is defined as to be place in a hospital for medical care or observation. That's everything from ER to Day only surgery.
 
Re: Breaking Report: P.O. Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture of eye sock

You ever watch boxing or particularly MMA fighting? This injury is often suffered in the ring, especially in MMA as a result of a punch or a thrown elbow. And many continue to fight until the end of the match. LATER the eye may close and surgery may be required, but NOT NECESSARILY immediately.

Yes, couple of differences you forgetting.

1) MMA fighters were gloves with padding.
2) MMA fighters are trained to take blows such as that.
3) MMA fighters eyes do swell up during the fight.

There is always symptoms right away.. anybody having been in a fist fight and being hit in the face.. will tell you this. Your eyes water if it's a direct hit, you get a bit of your "bell rung" and it takes you a bit to unring that bell. Another point is, the claim is the cop was beaten unconscious.. Sorry, you don't get close to beat unconscious and shoot the ****, period. You aren't all there if you take that kind of beating.
 
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Depends on how forceful the blow is. But any blow to the face such as being claimed will make it virtually impossible for the cop to see out of that eye CLEARLY .

You aim with one eye.
 
Re: Breaking Report: P.O. Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture of eye sock

You aim with one eye.

This is a fallacy, police and military are "taught" to shoot with both eyes open. US Army (since you sport the CIB) teaches Reflexive fire which is shooting with two eyes open and not "aiming" via iron sights. You know, why Reflex sights such as the ITL MARS, EOTech, Trijicon and Aimpoint variants are used.

But even if you disagree with that... for shooting a pistol in a "self-defensive" situation cops are trained to shoot with both eyes open for the purpose of situational awareness. I.E. they don't "sight" but rather point the weapon on target. With long distances when ready to fire quick close of eye mere tenths of a second before firing and reopening of the eye to keep scanning. Reason for this is your closed eye takes time to adjust for the equal or greater time you had it closed. So if you are sighting for 2 mins, it'll take your non-dominate eye 2 mins or longer to adjust.
 
Re: Breaking Report: P.O. Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture of eye sock

Darren Wilson had an eye bone fracture after scuffle with Michael Brown, family friend says - The Washington Post

The officer who fatally shot an unarmed Ferguson youth suffered a fracture to his eye bone in a scuffle with Michael Brown, according to a family friend.

The hospital X-rays of the injury have been submitted to the St. Louis County prosecuting attorney, and will be shared with a grand jury now weighing evidence to determine if Officer Darren Wilson should be charged in the shooting.

The third such claim. Jim Hoft and then Foxnews independently confirmed it with police sources and now its claimed by a "family friend". Adding in the public statements of a serious facial injury, swelling and a ride to the hospital by the assistant policechief, and it's becoming more likey then not to be true.
 
Re: Breaking Report: P.O. Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture of eye sock

Yes, couple of differences you forgetting.

1) MMA fighters were gloves with padding.
2) MMA fighters are trained to take blows such as that.
3) MMA fighters eyes do swell up during the fight.

There is always symptoms right away.. anybody having been in a fist fight and being hit in the face.. will tell you this. Your eyes water if it's a direct hit, you get a bit of your "bell rung" and it takes you a bit to unring that bell. Another point is, the claim is the cop was beaten unconscious.. Sorry, you don't get close to beat unconscious and shoot the ****, period. You aren't all there if you take that kind of beating.

Sorry, you do what it takes if you think your life depends on it, period
 
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This is a fallacy, police and military are "taught" to shoot with both eyes open. US Army (since you sport the CIB) teaches Reflexive fire which is shooting with two eyes open and not "aiming" via iron sights. You know, why Reflex sights such as the ITL MARS, EOTech, Trijicon and Aimpoint variants are used.

But even if you disagree with that... for shooting a pistol in a "self-defensive" situation cops are trained to shoot with both eyes open for the purpose of situational awareness. I.E. they don't "sight" but rather point the weapon on target. With long distances when ready to fire quick close of eye mere tenths of a second before firing and reopening of the eye to keep scanning. Reason for this is your closed eye takes time to adjust for the equal or greater time you had it closed. So if you are sighting for 2 mins, it'll take your non-dominate eye 2 mins or longer to adjust.

So what is your point? If he is trained to shoot with both eyes open, certainly he can do it with one eye open.

This one i know for certain
 
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I know that when aiming, two eyes are optimal. But when you only have one eye working, you do what you gotta do.

Myself, I can shoot the balls off a gnat aiming with one eye or two. But that's just me.

:shoot
 
Re: Breaking Report: P.O. Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture of eye sock

Depends on how forceful the blow is. But any blow to the face such as being claimed will make it virtually impossible for the cop to see out of that eye CLEARLY .
Probably why he hit him in the arm and shoulder. Thank god he had good training.
 
Re: Breaking Report: P.O. Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture of eye sock

This is a fallacy, police and military are "taught" to shoot with both eyes open. US Army (since you sport the CIB) teaches Reflexive fire which is shooting with two eyes open and not "aiming" via iron sights. You know, why Reflex sights such as the ITL MARS, EOTech, Trijicon and Aimpoint variants are used.

But even if you disagree with that... for shooting a pistol in a "self-defensive" situation cops are trained to shoot with both eyes open for the purpose of situational awareness. I.E. they don't "sight" but rather point the weapon on target. With long distances when ready to fire quick close of eye mere tenths of a second before firing and reopening of the eye to keep scanning. Reason for this is your closed eye takes time to adjust for the equal or greater time you had it closed. So if you are sighting for 2 mins, it'll take your non-dominate eye 2 mins or longer to adjust.

Where'd you hear that? On TV?
 
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This is a fallacy, police and military are "taught" to shoot with both eyes open. US Army (since you sport the CIB) teaches Reflexive fire which is shooting with two eyes open and not "aiming" via iron sights. You know, why Reflex sights such as the ITL MARS, EOTech, Trijicon and Aimpoint variants are used.

But even if you disagree with that... for shooting a pistol in a "self-defensive" situation cops are trained to shoot with both eyes open for the purpose of situational awareness. I.E. they don't "sight" but rather point the weapon on target. With long distances when ready to fire quick close of eye mere tenths of a second before firing and reopening of the eye to keep scanning. Reason for this is your closed eye takes time to adjust for the equal or greater time you had it closed. So if you are sighting for 2 mins, it'll take your non-dominate eye 2 mins or longer to adjust.
2 minutes?

Where did you come up with that number?
 
Re: Breaking Report: P.O. Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture of eye [W:1

BREAKING REPORT: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack | The Gateway Pundit

If this is a fact, this has been a week and a half of unnecessary involvement of FOUR POLICE DEPARTMENTS, the Missouri National Guard, various FIRE Departments, the stupid democrat governor of the State of Missouri, Obama, Holder and millions of dollars spent because of this thug, Michael Brown and all the usual suspects such as the NAACP, Sharpton, Jackson and the rest of those lying bastards. I hope your GD welfare payments are forfeited.

LINK IS FIXED

How dare you. Pushing your common sense and personal responsibility on others. Others that have been held down for centuries by the evil white man.
 
Re: Breaking Report: P.O. Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture of eye sock

2 minutes?

Where did you come up with that number?

It's an example if you closed your eye for 2 mins. If you closed your eye for 1 sec, it would take about 1 sec it for that eye (and brain) to focus again. Go ahead and try it.
 
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Where'd you hear that? On TV?

I was taught to shoot handgun with both eyes open. But when I'm shooting through my scope, I always just use one eye. One shot, one kill! Oooo-rah!
 
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I was taught to shoot handgun with both eyes open. But when I'm shooting through my scope, I always just use one eye. One shot, one kill! Oooo-rah!

Austriaecon is suggesting that there's no way Wilson could have fired accurately with a busted eye.
 
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It's an example if you closed your eye for 2 mins. If you closed your eye for 1 sec, it would take about 1 sec it for that eye (and brain) to focus again. Go ahead and try it.
So its anecdotal to you right?
 
Re: Breaking Report: P.O. Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture of eye sock

Where'd you hear that? On TV?

US Army Field Manual FM 3-06.11?
 
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So what is your point? If he is trained to shoot with both eyes open, certainly he can do it with one eye open.

This one i know for certain

One eye open presents different issues. Tunnel vision, depth perception and so on which leads to issues in actually determining if one is justified in shooting.
 
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