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Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police[W:302,693:992]

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tres borrachos said:
The family's lawyer didn't deny it was him. They said the release of the video showing him in the store was a "sideshow". If it wasn't him, they would know - and say it.
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It was clearly him in the video - even his scrawny side-kick is in the video, having been in the store during the robbery and assault. And just how many 6'4 300lb guys with a bean-pole wing-man are in that neighbourhood. Anyone who denies it was him is just trying to avoid the obvious for whatever reason.
 
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clownboy said:
Explain what the difference means to you, you're splitting hairs now that your slip is showing.
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The difference is that I voice what I believe might be the case, am willing to correct my assumptions as the investigation progresses and do not claim my assumtions to be facts.
 
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Thorgasm said:
It doesn't give you false courage or blind rage. I've smoked pot with lots of people and it doesn't impair people to the point of charging someone pointing a gun at you.
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Would it impair your ability to see the reality in which you're currently living? Perhaps the violence is natural for Mr. Brown - after all, 6'4 300lb teenagers are often used to using their size to get their way. The evidence from the store video shows that Mr. Brown, after leaving the store, came back into the store to assault the owner/clerk so he had directly relevant experience with confronting someone challenging him. Whether or not he was high on pot is irrelevant because he did the exact same thing moments before.
 
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The German said:
I am waiting for the investigation.

Not trying to find pathetic excuses for the cop before the investigation has finished.
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"Pathetic excuses"? If you don't know anything about what happened, why are you worked up about people who are considering all sides and not rushing to judgment?

You're calling people racists.
 
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contrapositive said:
I'm new here!

It seemed that the Brown family's attorneys were lying through their teeth in the press conference. I don't see how the autopsy picture suggests he was shot from a back-to-front manner (as Crump and Park stated). The autopsy suggested he was shot from the front, how the attorneys could say otherwise....how? Also, in a cellphone video (Mike Brown EyeWitness Crime Scene Video Ferguson, MO - YouTube), there is a discussion around 6:28 with an eyewitness saying that Brown doubled back and rushed towards the police officer..

It seemed as if Baden was pressured into not saying that it was possible Brown was charging at officer Wilson, he was crowded and at the end ushered off by Crump, who said to a someone in the audience "we don't need to answer your question. Let's go, let's go."

Am I missing anything? How can the attorneys twist the autopsy picture to say that he was shot in a back-to-front manner?
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I don't think Dr. Baden can be pressured one way or another.

About the right forearm wound, Baden said that it could be that Brown was walking away and turning around, but it could also have happened if he put his arms up in a defensive gesture.

He also said that there was no powder residue on the body, so the gun's muzzle was at least 1-2 feet away but could've been as far away as 30 feet too. It's not possible to determine without examining Brown's clothing.

He confirmed that all the correct x-rays, which would show where the bullets were before the autopsy began, were taken at the first autopsy and commented that it's not uncommon for prosecutors to withhold information and that in his experience, when this happens, it only serves to upset the community more.

Forensic findings of second Michael Brown autopsy released| Latest News Videos | Fox News
 
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vesper said:
It is the conversations in the background of the video that is significant of an eyewitness that gives an account that matches the one that the friend of the officer Wilson's friend told on a radio program.

Audible transcript

#1 How’d he get from there to there?

#2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck

{crosstalk}

#2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the police got out and ran after him

{crosstalk}

#2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus - the police had his gun drawn already on him –

#1. Oh, the police got his gun

#2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him

{crosstalk}

#2 Police fired shots – the next thing I know – the police was missing

#1 The Police?

#2 The Police shot him

#1 Police?

#2 The next thing I know … I’m thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him”)

Eyewitness: Michael Brown Ran from Cop Car, 'Doubled Back' and Charged at Officers
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He kept coming toward him. Hmm....
 
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AJiveMan said:
Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times; police use more tear gas on protesters | Fox News

So, the pig just basically was enraged that he got his ass whooped, and decided to empty his pistol into someone kneeling on the ground with his hands in the air in surrender.

Kind of like a gangland murder.
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Actually, it proves nothing ... unless you want to apply your prejudices to the findings.

I could make an equally strong case for the other side of the argument ... that the officer fired in defense of his life.

We have no idea what really happened ... yet. Clearly, the 'eyewitness' accounts have been thoroughly discredited.

Just let it play out ...
 
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Mason66 said:
The officer made contact with a suspect doing something illegal which shows what state of mind exactly?

Isn't that his job?
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Yes, that is his job.
 
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nota bene said:
Thanks for posting this. I had no idea what race Wilson was.

And didn't care.

Still don't.
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That isn't Wilson. It's an irresponsible post repeating irresponsible and INCORRECT information put out by some idiot named "Anonymous".
 
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The German said:
What!?

A bunch of right wing Southerners turn up, in the moment a black teen is shot by a white cop and emidiatly defend the cop no matter the circumstances.

Was there ver a point in your nations history in which things turned out another way?

Was there ever a case on this forum in which these people took the side of a middle class, every day black person?

And then the same people post stuff like "liberals are KKK members" "Germans are nazis" "Europeans are racist trash" "liberals hate white people".

No. You dont have the slightest bit moral authority to make a judgement over my reaction to this!
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I think your reaction to this is deplorable and insulting and as a conservative Canadian, not a redneck southern American, I have the ability to look at a situation such as this and be prepared to look at the evidence as it comes out and determine that from what has been disclosed and discussed so far, Mr. Brown is far from the innocent child who was maliciously gunned down in the middle of the street for no reason other than he's black.
 
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tres borrachos said:
"Pathetic excuses"? If you don't know anything about what happened, why are you worked up about people who are considering all sides and not rushing to judgment?
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Nobody of the usual suspects of posting stuff like "all NBA players are thugs" is taking "all sides".
You're calling people racists.
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Oh dear me. Is that somehow not allowed?
 
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CNN is reporting a source said Micheal bum rushed the officer and punched him and grabbed for the gun.

my god, the liberal narrative on this story is going down like the TITANIC.

first they said the guy killed was a gentle giant, then the video came out of him robbing a grocery store and that lie is flushed.
then they kept saying that witness testimony was THEIR EVIDENCE the officer shot the "gentle giant" as he was running away. That turned out to be bullcrap, making the witness testimony lies and nothing more.
now they are just grasping for any straw they can find.
sad, really
 
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CanadaJohn said:
I think your reaction to this is deplorable and insulting
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It is funny how people of your kind constantly try to get the word "racism" out of every debate by insisting that is not an accusation but an insult.

Rather cheap and dishonest.

and as a conservative Canadian, not a redneck southern American, I have the ability to look at a situation such as this and be prepared to look at the evidence as it comes out and determine that from what has been disclosed and discussed so far, Mr. Brown is far from the innocent child who was maliciously gunned down in the middle of the street for no reason other than he's black.
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Join in with your brothers.
 
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Texmex said:
More lies than truth.

If you listened to Dr. Baden, you would see that he was shot in the top of the head. He obviously wasn't standing unless the cop got a ladder.
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Lol...

Yes, because people cannot bend at the waist or neck
 
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JoeTrumps said:
CNN is reporting a source said Micheal bum rushed the officer and punched him and grabbed for the gun.

my god, the liberal narrative on this story is going down like the TITANIC.

first they said the guy killed was a gentle giant, then the video came out of him robbing a grocery store and that lie is flushed.
then they kept saying that witness testimony was THEIR EVIDENCE the officer shot the "gentle giant" as he was running away. That turned out to be bullcrap, making the witness testimony lies and nothing more.
now they are just grasping for any straw they can find.
sad, really
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Where?

CNN.com International - Breaking, World, Business, Sports, Entertainment and Video News
 
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The German said:
Nobody of the usual suspects of posting stuff like "all NBA players are thugs" is taking "all sides".


Oh dear me. Is that somehow not allowed?
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So because the "usual suspects" are posting things about the NBA - by the way, I don't know who you're referring to, nor do I care - that gives you the right to come in here and make accusations that aren't true. Got it.

Your partisan slip is showing. You only comment on the people who are saying possible things about the dead teenager. I have yet to see you say a word to the people who are making accusations about the policeman, right on down to slurs against him. Yes, "pig" is a slur.
 
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The more facts revealed, the more the medias initial account and ben crumps grandstanding get disproven
 
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The German said:
It is funny how people of your kind constantly try to get the word "racism" out of every debate by insisting that is not an accusation but an insult.

Rather cheap and dishonest.



Join in with your brothers.
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It is deplorable and insulting, when you don't know someone, to speak in terms you use. I, on the other hand, will simply assume you're having a bad day and will regret your uncivil discourse. People, adults, can have honest differences of opinion without resorting to ugly name-calling.
 
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tres borrachos said:
He kept coming toward him. Hmm....
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That's the same thing the friend of Officer Wilson stated also.

“He pulled up ahead of them. And then he got a call-in that there was a strong-arm robbery. And, they gave a description. And, he’s looking at them and they got something in their hands and it looks like it could be what, you know those cigars or whatever. So he goes in reverse back to them. Tries to get out of his car. They slam his door shut violently. I think he said Michael did. And, then he opened the car again. He tried to get out. He stands up.

And then Michael just bum-rushes him and shoves him back into his car. Punches him in the face and them Darren grabs for his gun. Michael grabbed for the gun. At one point he got the gun entirely turned against his hip. And he shoves it away. And the gun goes off.

Well, then Michael takes off and gets to be about 35 feet away. And, Darren’s first protocol is to pursue. So, he stands up and yells, “Freeze!” Michael and his friend turn around. And Michael taunts him… And then all the sudden he just started bumrushing him. He just started coming at him full speed. And, so he just started shooting. And, he just kept coming. And, so he really thinks he was on something.”
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Alleged Friend Gives Darren Wilson’s Account Of Mike Brown Shooting UPDATE: Unwitting Eyewitness Corroborates Wilson’s Version UPDATE 4: Autopsy Debunks That Brown Was Shot In Back, May Confirm Brown Was “Bumrushing” Wilson

Forensics said the gun shots Brown encountered were anywhere between 2 feet to 30 feet away. They had not done forensics on the clothing yet which will narrow the distance down more precisely.
 
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nota bene said:
I don't think Dr. Baden can be pressured one way or another.

About the right forearm wound, Baden said that it could be that Brown was walking away and turning around, but it could also have happened if he put his arms up in a defensive gesture.

He also said that there was no powder residue on the body, so the gun's muzzle was at least 1-2 feet away but could've been as far away as 30 feet too. It's not possible to determine without examining Brown's clothing.

He confirmed that all the correct x-rays, which would show where the bullets were before the autopsy began, were taken at the first autopsy and commented that it's not uncommon for prosecutors to withhold information and that in his experience, when this happens, it only serves to upset the community more.

Forensic findings of second Michael Brown autopsy released| Latest News Videos | Fox News
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I just felt it looked that way, being ushered off stage by Benjamin Crump.

I think his colleague also said the arm can move in many ways - and there is thus so much to speculate on. He could, as you have said, been putting his arms up in a defensive/surrendering gesture. He could also have been bull-rushing towards Wilson with his arms down, palm facing inwards. This can be speculated on endlessly at this point, so any present attempt to do so is moot (on "both" sides)

However, I think it's important to note that the autopsy and QuikTrip footage directly refutes Dorian Johnson's eyewitness "account." The Ferguson PD could have handled the PR and information release better, but there's evidently a great deal of lying or truth-bending on the prosecution's side. Furthermore, evidence is emerging that corroborates the police officer's version of events in addition to the unwitting eyewitness testimony in the video I linked (in addition to the preliminary autopsy).
 
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tres borrachos said:
That isn't Wilson. It's an irresponsible post repeating irresponsible and INCORRECT information put out by some idiot named "Anonymous".
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"Anonymous" as in 4Chan "Anonymous"?
 
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nota bene said:
"Anonymous" as in 4Chan "Anonymous"?
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I don't know. It was some idiot who released the name of the wrong guy. Legitimate news outlets wouldn't allow the name of the (wrong) guy in their publications. Someone posted it on here last week, taking it from some Black News site. I told him to take it down, and of course he didn't, and Rocket posted it again, perpetuating the slander against some guy who isn't even the one involved.
 
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CanadaJohn said:
It is deplorable and insulting, when you don't know someone,
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I dont need to see **** when i can smell it.

Similar to that, I dont need to know the man making racist remarks.

to speak in terms you use.
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Are you still insiting that racist is an insult?

I, on the other hand, will simply assume you're having a bad day and will regret your uncivil discourse.
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I was enraged by what i read. The same people, who can post interesting things, constantly return to post the most disgusting things.

All it does is prove Hannah Arendts theory on the banality of evil. To speak in terms you probably dont even comprehend.

People, adults, can have honest differences of opinion without resorting to ugly name-calling.
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Calling someone out for racism is not name calling.

An adult being racist, doesnt change that person being a racist.
 
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JoeTrumps said:
I saw it then went on twitter and saw a dozen people repeating the exact same thing(that CNN was reporting this). use the key words "brown bum rushed officer"
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How wonderfull

Enlighten us with more things from twitter.

The most relyable source for news in the world.
 
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