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Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police[W:302,693:992]

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Your Star said:
If the bullet entered into the palm of his hand it is pretty obvious.
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An absurd comment that flies in the face of the autopsy drawing.
That wound does not indicate a surrendering position of the hand.
 
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Excon said:
An absurd comment that flies in the face of the autopsy drawing.
That wound does not indicate a surrendering position of the hand.
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So you believe it is okay for a ****ing pig to pump 6 or more shots into someone surrendering? Talk about absurd, you're embarrassing yourself now. Glad you're not a pig. Or are you one of those stinking cops that likes to execute people? a pig.
 
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AJiveMan said:
So you believe it is okay for a ****ing pig to pump 6 or more shots into someone surrendering? Talk about absurd, you're embarrassing yourself now. Glad you're not a pig. Or are you one of those stinking cops that likes to execute people? a pig.
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You are embarrassing yourself. Especially as you haven't paid attention to what has been said.

There was no surrendering happening. He was approaching the Officer as the Officer was firing.
 
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AJiveMan said:
Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times; police use more tear gas on protesters | Fox News

So, the pig just basically was enraged that he got his ass whooped, and decided to empty his pistol into someone kneeling on the ground with his hands in the air in surrender.

Kind of like a gangland murder.
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What makes you think his unit issues 6rnd pistols? Did you look up their standard sidearm or something?
 
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AJiveMan said:
someone kneeling on the ground with his hands in the air in surrender.
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You know this how?

Were you there?

btw... is that your dog in your AV, is that a Corgi?
 
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AJiveMan said:
Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times; police use more tear gas on protesters | Fox News

So, the pig just basically was enraged that he got his ass whooped, and decided to empty his pistol into someone kneeling on the ground with his hands in the air in surrender.

Kind of like a gangland murder.
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I thought the Police officer shot him in the back as he ran away ?
 
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Your Star said:
Riots, no. Mass protests, I'd say yes.
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Peaceful protests - sure.

They do serve a purpose.

This whole debacle, the ones who are rioting, aren't the ones who have a stake in this matter - they're just taking advantage of tensions to do what they want to do.
 
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JayDubya said:
It is important to point out that you don't know that's the truth anymore than he knows the cop is an evil murderer.

It is possible that Brown did attack Wilson as you claim. It is also possible that Wilson's account is deceitful and Brown did not attack him at all.

We need evidence to make a conclusion here.
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We have evidence that Brown was not shot in the back and no evidence that he was "surrendering" at the time of the shooting.
 
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JayDubya said:
Actually the autopsy from Dr. Baden was NOT conclusive as you suggest: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html



If you weren't there, present and observing the entire exchange from a clear vantage point, the only thing you might know about the shots at this point comes from Dr. Baden, and Dr. Baden says the info is not conclusive other than that Brown's head was apparently bent downward at the time he was shot in the head.

As he points out, this would also be consistent with someone charging forward.
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The only thing conclusive is that the "witness" report that he was shot in the back with his hands up is a lie.
 
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JayDubya said:
It is important to point out that you don't know that's the truth anymore than he knows the cop is an evil murderer.

It is possible that Brown did attack Wilson as you claim. It is also possible that Wilson's account is deceitful and Brown did not attack him at all.

We need evidence to make a conclusion here.
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In the mean time, let's loot and pillage Ferguson...
 
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jmotivator said:
The only thing conclusive is that the "witness" report that he was shot in the back with his hands up is a lie.
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Yup, how many people were taken in by that lie and then used it to justify theft and property destruction ?
 
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Your Star said:
The fact that you think that him charging the officer is a fact just shows your incredible bias.
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You tried to make a point about a wound to the palm can only mean he was surrendering. The wound in question was NOT in the palm, as the autopsy shows, and could have been sustained with a clinched fist as easily as an open hand. It doesn't prove your assumption.
 
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It's interesting to me that none of the shots were fired into his back, as I think at least one witness has claimed, and the majority (and initial shots) were to his arm.

Not ready to come to any judgment, but I don't think this autopsy rules out the officer's story, and it does seem to contradict some elements of at least some of the tales we are hearing from alleged witnesses.
 
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AJiveMan said:
Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times; police use more tear gas on protesters | Fox News

So, the pig just basically was enraged that he got his ass whooped, and decided to empty his pistol into someone kneeling on the ground with his hands in the air in surrender.

Kind of like a gangland murder.
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Sounds more like the bullet wounds are a result of the struggle and the officer finally getting control and Brown's accomplice and alleged witness lying about Brown's hands being up in the air. Unfortunately there is no video of the incident. So you and I can only speculate what happened.
 
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Too many people with too much unjustified certainty. Here is my certainty: If Attorney General Holder can find a reason to prosecute, he will hold a press conference and he will prosecute. If he can't find a reason, then you won't hear from him on the subject again. This I know with absolute certainty.
 
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Your Star said:
The fact that you think that him charging the officer is a fact just shows your incredible bias.
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Interesting. So your opinion is that the private medical examiner hired by the family has incredible bias?

Michael Brown Autopsy Finds Six Shots Struck Teen as Ferguson Protest March Ends in Chaos - WSJ
“This one here looks like his head was bent downward,” he said, indicating a wound at the top of Brown’s head. “It can be because he’s giving up, or because he’s charging forward at the officer.”
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AJiveMan said:
Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times; police use more tear gas on protesters | Fox News

So, the pig just basically was enraged that he got his ass whooped, and decided to empty his pistol into someone kneeling on the ground with his hands in the air in surrender.

Kind of like a gangland murder.
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Well, no. Brown was shot in the front, he was facing the officer. So we know his friend lied about the cop shooting him in the back, and he most likely lied about everything else.

See, Brown's friend was too ignorant to realize that his story could be checked in detail through the autopsy. It would be very simple to examine the body and confirm whether or not Brown had been shot in the back. So in addition to being a liar he's stupid.

Another witness says that Brown was moving toward the cop when he was shot; obviously he was not on his knees.
 
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Your Star said:
You don't get shot in the palm of the hand like Brown did unless you're putting your hands up to surrender.
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False. The palm can be turned forward when the arm is down at one's side.
 
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jmotivator said:
The only thing conclusive is that the "witness" report that he was shot in the back with his hands up is a lie.
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lol

Yeah - at this moment I've heard, from video interviews of supposed witnesses, 3 different accounts of how he was killed. I wouldn't be surprised if there was 1 or 2 more versions out there.

When 'witnesses' want to stir the pot with lies they need to commune first and get their stories straight. :roll:
 
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Lutherf said:
Or if you're reaching for a gun.

The facts aren't in yet.
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You were a cop, right? If not why do you go out of your way to justify cops shooting unarmed citizens.
 
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Your Star said:
It is HIGHLY different when a police officer, one of the people we charge to uphold the law, guns down an unarmed and surrendering man. That is why this is causing so much attention.
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Beat us to it, my thoughts precisely.
 
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AJiveMan said:
Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times; police use more tear gas on protesters | Fox News

So, the pig just basically was enraged that he got his ass whooped, and decided to empty his pistol into someone kneeling on the ground with his hands in the air in surrender.

Kind of like a gangland murder.
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So basically you just drew a conclusion out of nothing because you WANT the "pig" to be guilty of execution. The evidence does not indicate an execution. It indicates that one of the shots hit him in the head, where his head was bent forward. A logical direction for the head to bend if one is falling forward.

Sigh.

And if the cop got his "ass whipped" that is more than enough probable cause to shoot the punk. Or do you prefer to side with the guys who rob conveniences stores, choke out innocent business owners who try to stop them, and then fight the cops who try to arrest them?

The fact is...we have no solid evidence one direction or the other. If we find evidence the cop is innocent great. One more scumbag off the streets. If we find out this kid surrendered...we need to deal with the cop within the law.

You want to convict and lynch the cop on circumstantial evidence? You are no better than type of person you accuse the cop of being. Justice is what is needed. Not unruly protestors calling for the death of someone because they shot a black person.
 
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