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Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police[W:302,693:992]

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Just to be clear, are you aware that kid in the video clip was his accomplice in his assault/robbery, and now is the "eye witness" to the media. He looks really sad in that video though.

Yup. By no means am I exonerating Brown. However I am remaining open to actual FACTS, as can be proven (like with the physical evidence of the autopsy) until we actually see the results of an investigation and possibly grand jury and/or trial. Has an accidental discharge been ruled out yet?
 
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Wow, you really got me there! :lamo
Of course I did.

Just who do you think this "we" is he is referring to?
When you are with a friend you refer to both of you as "we".
And he differentiates between "we" and "he & him".

He says: In the same moment the first shot went off and "we" looked at him, (while looking in a downwards direction), and he was shot and blood was coming from him and we took off running.
Start @ 01:30
Him, he versus we.
Like that isn't obvious.
 
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Of course I did.

Just who do you think this "we" is he is referring to?
When you are with a friend you refer to both of you as "we".
And he differentiates between "we" and "he & him".

He says: In the same moment the first shot went off and "we" looked at him, (while looking in a downwards direction), and he was shot and blood was coming from him and we took off running.
Start @ 01:30
Him, he versus we.
Like that isn't obvious.


He sounds like a real thinker, he clearly used legal terminology which (call me skeptical) he may have recently heard a lawyer speak. What up with "My friend"? Are they on a first name basis?
 
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Of course I did.

Just who do you think this "we" is he is referring to?
When you are with a friend you refer to both of you as "we".
And he differentiates between "we" and "he & him".

He says: In the same moment the first shot went off and "we" looked at him, (while looking in a downwards direction), and he was shot and blood was coming from him and we took off running.
Start @ 01:30
Him, he versus we.
Like that isn't obvious.

The context from the video is that that shot happened from within the vehicle.

Try to keep up. Or stop trying so hard to *be right on the Internet* that you cant even carry on a comprehensible argument.

Go away. You are just offensively defensive. No one cares wft you think. It's the Internet.....go try to be someone *in real life.*

The rest of us will try to carry on a civil, coherent discussion that doesnt devolve into you claiming we're *ridiculous!* We've all seen, for example, the topic you started, that you couldnt support, for 50+ pages with anything but "it's right there in the link in the OP."

Please. You are tiresome.
 
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The context from the video is that that shot happened from within the vehicle.
And?
He clearly indicated that the Officer is the one who was shot.
Not Brown.
And again. The Officer is reported to have been hospitalized for facial injuries from the struggle.


Try to keep up.
Said the person not keeping up.



Or stop trying so hard to *be right on the Internet* that you cant even carry on a comprehensible argument.

Go away. You are just offensively defensive. No one cares wft you think. It's the Internet.....go try to be someone *in real life.*

The rest of us will try to carry on a civil, coherent discussion that doesnt devolve into you claiming we're *ridiculous!* We've all seen, for example, the topic you started, that you couldnt support, for 50+ pages with anything but "it's right there in the link in the OP."

Please. You are tiresome.
You get shown wrong and this is how you reply. Figures.
 
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You get shown wrong and this is how you reply. Figures.

Didnt show me wrong anywhere. No where!

:lamo
 
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Didnt show me wrong anywhere. No where!

:lamo
Yes Lursa I did.
Your following comment was in reply to a post specifically about the struggle in the vehicle.
The statement from the buddy clearly states, in the video, that he believed Brown was hit. Did you miss that?
That comment is absolutely false in reference to that which is replied.

He did not indicate that he believe Brown was shot in that struggle over the gun. Which is what you were replying to.

If you now try to deflect by stating your comment lacked clarity and actually applied elsewhere, that would just be dishonest, as you were replying to a specific posting about the struggle in the vehicle.

So yes. You were proven wrong.
 
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So, the pig just basically was enraged that he got his ass whooped, and decided to empty his pistol into someone kneeling on the ground with his hands in the air in surrender.

Kind of like a gangland murder.



Not at all "like a gangland murder".



If you're physically fighting cops you deserve to be shot to death simply put. There are very few societies legally that would disagree with that statement. The guy willingly entered into a risk of universal deletion and he got the bad side of that risk. He shouldn't have been taking the risk of death by fighting cops if he wasn't interested in that possible outcome.
 
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Didnt show me wrong anywhere. No where!

:lamo
WHenever I see his name on a post i simply zip past it without reading. I invite you to do the same.
 
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WHenever I see his name on a post i simply zip past it without reading. I invite you to do the same.

:doh


This isn't about me. Do try to stick to the topic.
 
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This video was posted elsewhere.
It is being reported that the hearsay account given by Josie accurately describes the Officers official account.







Josie's account.

 
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Well, this isn't how you retold it. You said he was "shot from the car", this says that there was a shot "in the car" during the struggle. All accounts say shots were fired after the initial struggle in the car and after the cop had exited the vehicle.

Good grief.
 
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Well, this isn't how you retold it. You said he was "shot from the car", this says that there was a shot "in the car" during the struggle. All accounts say shots were fired after the initial struggle in the car and after the cop had exited the vehicle.

Very early on, I heard it reported that there was one shot taken/bullet found in the car. This, to me, seems to provide credence to the officer's account that Brown was outside the car and in a struggle with the officer in the car for possession of the officer's gun. It's quite possible, in my view, that a number of the bullet wounds Brown suffered in his right arm/hand are also consistent with a struggle for the gun and multiple shots being fired during that struggle. Finally, when Brown lost control he ran, the officer got out of his car and told him to stop, he was under arrest, and Brown turned and headed back at the officer. If I was the officer, just having survived with my life after a struggle with this man, any threatening action by Brown would be met with deadly force, thus the two shots to the head.

This is conjecture and speculation - it seems far more rational and possible than the suggestions being made here and elsewhere that Brown was targeted and murdered simply because he was black.
 
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It's quite possible, in my view, that a number of the bullet wounds Brown suffered in his right arm/hand are also consistent with a struggle for the gun and multiple shots being fired during that struggle.
While you believe it is possible, that is not what the evidence from both Brown's cohort's (Dorian) account and the supposed Officer's account indicate.

They both reflect one shot inside, and the rest outside the vehicle.
:shrug:
 
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While you believe it is possible, that is not what the evidence from both Brown's cohort's (Dorian) account and the supposed Officer's account indicate.

They both reflect one shot inside, and the rest outside the vehicle.
:shrug:





After a cop puts 6-bullets in a man with his hands up, what do you think that cop should do next?
 
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After a cop puts 6-bullets in a man with his hands up, what do you think that cop should do next?

What evidence do you have that he had his hands up?
 
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After a cop puts 6-bullets in a man with his hands up, what do you think that cop should do next?
That isn't what happened, so you are speaking nonsense.
 
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After a cop puts 6-bullets in a man with his hands up, what do you think that cop should do next?

Mozambique.
 
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It's not black and white like that. People can be protesting in a way this is disorderly without invalidating that they are protesting.

Disorderly protest =/= rioting and looting. Once you are a rioting, you are a rioter. Once you are stealing stuff, you are no longer protesting, you are a thief.

For example, if a fellow were to see a lady and think to myself "ah, there is an attractive, intelligent young lady. I think I shall buy her a drink and think of a funny line with which to begin conversation", well, at that point, he would be a flirt. At the point at which she turns down his approaches and so he decides he will violently take her anyway, he is not "flirting in a disorderly fashion". He is a rapist. He is no longer seeking to change the nature of a relationship through persuasion (as protesters are attempting to do), he is attempting to take what he wants by force, and using physical access gained through flirting to do so. She would be wrong to respond with violence to a flirt - I hope she responds with overwhelming violence to a would-be-rapist. Because the nature of the mans' actions have changed.
 
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Police sources now say that 12 witnesses have independently confirmed that the cop was being charged.


...The woman called into TheBlaze TV host Dana Loesch’s radio show on Friday, claiming that Brown “bum-rushed” Wilson moments after pushing him into his squad car, punching him in the face and trying to grab the cop’s gun.

“Michael and his friend turn around. And Michael taunts him… And then all the sudden he just started bumrushing him. He just started coming at him full speed. And, so he just started shooting. And, he just kept coming. And, so he really thinks he was on something,” the caller added. “The final shot was in the forehead, and then he fell about two or three feet in front of the officer.”...

That would seemingly jive with what I described previously as the most likely path of the impact points.
 
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Then why didnt they find any gun powder on brown's body? Does this suggest that the cops examiner groomed evidence off the body?

The clothes were not available for examination as they are in evidence for the County and DOJ to examine. If they were to release the clothing it would have caused a chain of custody issue. If they were to release the clothing for examination it would onlly be after they get a chance to do their examination of the evidence. The report is only about the autopsy. You could ask the same question about the box of cigars or the car.

I am betting that this is going to be a recurring theme so let me head all of those questions off at the pass:
"What about the car? Did they groom the car?"
"They didn't look at the car because it wasn't the body. An autopsy is an examination of the body."

"What about the gun?"
"They didn't look at the gun because it wasn't the body. An autopsy is an examination of the body."

Same thing, insert cigars.

Same thing, insert giraffe scrotum.

Same thing, insert whatever you want.
 
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The clothes were not available for examination as they are in evidence for the County and DOJ to examine. If they were to release the clothing it would have caused a chain of custody issue. If they were to release the clothing for examination it would onlly be after they get a chance to do their examination of the evidence. The report is only about the autopsy. You could ask the same question about the box of cigars or the car.

I am betting that this is going to be a recurring theme so let me head all of those questions off at the pass:
"What about the car? Did they groom the car?"
"They didn't look at the car because it wasn't the body. An autopsy is an examination of the body."

"What about the gun?"
"They didn't look at the gun because it wasn't the body. An autopsy is an examination of the body."

Same thing, insert cigars.

Same thing, insert giraffe scrotum.

Same thing, insert whatever you want.

Love your avatar! Selfie?
 
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CNN is embarrassing itself tonight at a level even extreme for them.

That's funny that you say that, I also watched CNN last night. For some reason I ended up on Nancy Grace's show (dear Lord, what an insufferable bitch she is) then went on to Dr. Drew, who had some hysterical bimbo with him who was losing her marbles and flailing about, refuting the commentary of a former Secret Service agent, a former cop, and a psychiatrist who were all giving their opinions that didn't fit the "the cop shot Brown in cold blood" chant.

It was embarrassing for these people to say the least. How can CNN pay some of them for being so stupid?
 
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