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'There are no police': Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of police re

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More like "police responded....riot stopped" versus "police didn't respond....riot continued".

Again how did police deal with riots in the days before they had all that surplus army hardware?

Why does it matter if they have surplus army hardware? You make it sound like tiananmen square. Not surprising, as most of those protesting and those on your side of the fence sensationalize everything. People who do this IMO should be held responsible for whipping up hysteria and violence that these protests build up to. Both the media and the people who instigate this type of reaction should all be held accountable for the damage done to the stores and the lives lost as a result of the hysteria.
 
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Why does it matter if they have surplus army hardware? You make it sound like tiananmen square. Not surprising, as most of those protesting and those on your side of the fence sensationalize everything. People who do this IMO should be held responsible for whipping up hysteria and violence that these protests build up to. Both the media and the people who instigate this type of reaction should all be held accountable for the damage done to the stores and the lives lost as a result of the hysteria.

It matters because military hardware is used by military forces in prosecuting wars. The police are not - for the thousandth time - a military force and US citizen are not an enemy. The job descriptions are completely different and completely incompatible.

And btw - Lt Gen Russel Honore, the NG commander during the Katrina, who one would think knows just little about dealing with situations like this has been very critical of the way the police handled the situation.
 
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Racial tensions, looting, vandalism, police brutality, trigger happy etc. makes N. Korea a better place to live.
 
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It matters because military hardware is used by military forces in prosecuting wars. The police are not - for the thousandth time - a military force and US citizen are not an enemy. The job descriptions are completely different and completely incompatible.

And btw - Lt Gen Russel Honore, the NG commander during the Katrina, who one would think knows just little about dealing with situations like this has been very critical of the way the police handled the situation.

When you are dealing with a heavily armed populace, you have to be heavily armed and protected. Would you put yourself in the police officers shoes with only a hand gun?
 
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That's the worst excuse in the world to not deploy the cops, to quell a riot.

Is it not true. The reason for the riots in the first place is because of the discontent with the current police department.
 
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Is it not true. The reason for the riots in the first place is because of the discontent with the current police department.



Discontent justifies protest, not rioting.
 
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Is it not true. The reason for the riots in the first place is because of the discontent with the current police department.

No, the reason for the riots is because of a bunch of lawless assholes went buck wild in the streets.
 
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No, the reason for the riots is because of a bunch of lawless assholes went buck wild in the streets.

Try having your surrendering son or daughter who is unarmed being shot in a town that has a history of mistreatment of your race, then pass judgement. Until then try to have some compassion for Mr. Brown and understanding for the feelings of his community.
 
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Discontent justifies protest, not rioting.

And when protests and honest news reporting are met with tear gas and armored vehicles, then what? Sit back and take it? No.
 
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And when protests and honest news reporting are met with tear gas and armored vehicles, then what? Sit back and take it? No.

Then report on the facts regarding the tear gas and armored vehicles. Escalating violence will not see protestors win anything other than jail time and possibly their lives. The only way to protest and WIN is with non-violence. Has Ghandi and MLK's teachings been ignored?
 
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Try having your surrendering son or daughter who is unarmed being shot in a town that has a history of mistreatment of your race, then pass judgement. Until then try to have some compassion for Mr. Brown and understanding for the feelings of his community.

I'm not going to burn someone's house down and steal their ****!
 
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Well what can they do? If they go in with riot gear the media attacks them for being too heavy handed.

The media doesnt run the police force and the police's job isnt to be popular. Its to protect the lives and property of the citizens who gave them authority. If they citizens dont like how they do their job, they should take it up with their city council. Although since the state police and national guard took over, its probably the state govts problem now. Citizens should take it up with them.
 
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Try having your surrendering son or daughter who is unarmed being shot in a town that has a history of mistreatment of your race, then pass judgement. Until then try to have some compassion for Mr. Brown and understanding for the feelings of his community.

They can 'feel' all they want.

When they riot, loot, burn, and destroy property, then all bets for civility are off.

At this point, any required force necessary to stop them is acceptable.

If more are shot in defense of other lives, then they brought it on themselves.
 
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Try having your surrendering son or daughter who is unarmed being shot in a town that has a history of mistreatment of your race, then pass judgement. Until then try to have some compassion for Mr. Brown and understanding for the feelings of his community.

It's happened before, and most people sue the police force, the city, the officer, etc. Most people don't decide to burn buildings & steal from innocent people.
 
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It's happened before, and most people sue the police force, the city, the officer, etc. Most people don't decide to burn buildings & steal from innocent people.

Those aren't MOST people. Those are street urchins. They be oppressed. Just listen to Al Sharpton.
 
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Those aren't MOST people. Those are street urchins. They be oppressed. Just listen to Al Sharpton.

Even most street urchins don't behave as those idiots are, and street urchins tend to be kids too. These are - doG help us - adults acting like savages.
 
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For one thing lose the military weapons, storm trooper body armor, MRAPS etc. They are police, not soldiers in a war zone.

No, once the rioting and looting begin it IS a war zone. All those rioting and looting should be shot on sight. These wastes of human skin aren't going to go on to become good for society anyway.
 
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So you want peaceful protesters to confront violent pillagers? Not everyone is as brave as you.

Everyone is brave on the Internet, even VanceMack. :lamo
 
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If anyone honestly believes that these folks are carrying on like this just because of this kid.....you are naïve beyond help.

And I wish these same folks would get outraged every time a black kid is shot on the streets of south Chicago.

This is making that community look worse than pathetic.
 
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If anyone honestly believes that these folks are carrying on like this just because of this kid.....you are naïve beyond help.

And I wish these same folks would get outraged every time a black kid is shot on the streets of south Chicago.

This is making that community look worse than pathetic.

I saw on the news this morning that 5 people were shot and killed in Chicago over the weekend, and 27 were wounded. Didn't say the race of those involved, but your point is correct. Why aren't they doing something there?

These looters don't even know what the **** is going on nor why they're doing this. They're using this as an excuse, and it's as disgusting as the people who actually give them a pass.
 
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I saw on the news this morning that 5 people were shot and killed in Chicago over the weekend, and 27 were wounded. Didn't say the race of those involved, but your point is correct. Why aren't they doing something there?

These looters don't even know what the **** is going on nor why they're doing this. They're using this as an excuse, and it's as disgusting as the people who actually give them a pass.

And when the officer is found innocent, which he may well be, they'll burn that town down.
 
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And when protests and honest news reporting are met with tear gas and armored vehicles, then what? Sit back and take it? No.



Oh BS.

Tear gas is a reactive measure to proactive lawlessness in the form of looters and rioters.

The Police just didn't just out of boredom start firing off tear gas canisters.

No, stores had been looted and burned before that happened.
 
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If anyone honestly believes that these folks are carrying on like this just because of this kid.....you are naïve beyond help.

And I wish these same folks would get outraged every time a black kid is shot on the streets of south Chicago.

This is making that community look worse than pathetic.

That's right, despite most people staying indoors and not wanting any part of it.

Black Men in the Crosshairs - of Other Black Men
 
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Even most street urchins don't behave as those idiots are, and street urchins tend to be kids too. These are - doG help us - adults acting like savages.

But, but...they be somebody's kid...just like Michael Brown, tres. I heard Al Sharpton say the other night that Michael Brown earned a scholarship to Vatterott College..........which happens to be a local trade school that doesn't award scholarships.
 
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