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Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat [W:613/629]

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MaggieD said:
Huh. I thought a governor had veto power. When did that change?
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And Blagovich had the power to appoint people to political positions

How'd that work out for him?
 
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sangha said:
And Blagovich had the power to appoint people to political positions

How'd that work out for him?
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"Appoint" is the operative word there. Nothing in the state constitution mentions "selling" political positions or conducting an auction.
 
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brothern said:
You're totally correct. The scuzzy kickback grants have nothing to do with Texas' political environment, or the fact that Rick Perry is now facing indictment.

I know for an absolute fact that Rick Perry is a completely honest guy, only concerned about the taxpaying public, and couldn't possibly carry a grudge against the woman or an organization leading up an investigation intimately involving Rick Perry's administration.It'd totally be against Rick Perry's nature to be into that type of political payback.
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I remember neighbors of Ted Bundy talked about how nice and honest this serial killer was also.
 
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Conservative said:
I remember DeLay indicted. how did that turn out?
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It turned out great! Delay no longer serves himself as a politician of the state of Texas.
 
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Texmex said:
It turned out great! Delay no longer serves himself as a politician of the state of Texas.
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He was run out of office and then the case was dismissed. Is that your idea of the right way to remove a political opponent?
 
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Just coming off an 18 month Grand Jury assignment, I can tell you that there's a reason its said that the Grand Jury will indict a ham sandwich. This doesn't necessarily mean anything. In terms of his criminality, politically, sure.
 
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Conservative said:
He was run out of office and then the case was dismissed. Is that your idea of the right way to remove a political opponent?
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To these folks the means by which a goal is accomplished are immaterial as long as that goal is met. When you have no moral compass you have relieved yourself of the requirement to be responsible for your actions so anything can be justified.
 
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Conservative said:
He was run out of office and then the case was dismissed. Is that your idea of the right way to remove a political opponent?
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There are many ways to rid oneself of vermin. If one way doesn't work there is another way available. Regardless, I am glad that Delay is no longer in politics.
 
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Conservative said:
What exactly is illegal about the Governor of a state vetoing any bill for any reason?
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It's not the veto that's the problem, it's the reason for the veto that's going to put a striped suit on him if the court finds him guilty.
 
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humbolt said:
"Appoint" is the operative word there. Nothing in the state constitution mentions "selling" political positions or conducting an auction.
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And nothing in the state constitution mentions "threatening investigators to back off or else"
 
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danarhea said:
Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prosecutors' funds



All I can say is HOLY CRAP. This is going to be a political crapstorm.

Article is here.
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Damn right ... this should be a good one to watch.
 
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shrubnose said:
It's not the veto that's the problem, it's the reason for the veto that's going to put a striped suit on him if the court finds him guilty.
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Really? there doesn't have to be a reason, only in your mind for a veto. There is nothing in the law that states that the Gov. doesn't have the right to veto a bill. The Legislature can always override that veto. You are reaching because of your dislike for Perry and probably most Republicans.
 
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sangha said:
And nothing in the state constitution mentions "threatening investigators to back off or else"
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Vetoing legislation is the right of any Governor. Doesn't matter the reason nor does it prevent the Legislature from overriding that veto. your double standard continues to show. What exactly did the Republicans do to you or your family that creates such hatred, lack of logic, and basic lack of understanding of civics?
 
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This will be yet another case where the facts dont matter, only the seriousness of the accusation.
 
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Conservative said:
Really? there doesn't have to be a reason, only in your mind for a veto.
There is nothing in the law that states that the Gov. doesn't have the right to veto a bill.
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 The Legislature can always override that veto. You are reaching because of your dislike for Perry and probably most Republicans.
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One more time: It's not the veto that got him indicted. It's the reason for the veto that created his problem.

Do you know what got Al Capone locked up in prison?

Tax evasion.




"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." ~ John Stuart Mill
 
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shrubnose said:
One more time: It's not the veto that got him indicted. It's the reason for the veto that created his problem.
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Does any governor need any particular reason to veto a bill?
 
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shrubnose said:
One more time: It's not the veto that got him indicted. It's the reason for the veto that created his problem.
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There doesn't have to be a reason, that is something you don't seem to understand although Perry had one.
 
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Conservative said:
Vetoing legislation is the right of any Governor.
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And appointing people to political positions is the right of any Governor

How'd that work out for Blago?
 
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sangha said:
And nothing in the state constitution mentions "threatening investigators to back off or else"
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Heh. Looks like your prosecutor better sober up before court. Obama promises vetos all the time. Governors can do it too. Surprise!
 
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humbolt said:
Heh. Looks like your prosecutor better sober up before court. Obama promises vetos all the time. Governors can do it too. Surprise!
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And Governors can appoint people to political positions

How'd that work out for Blago?
 
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Conservative said:
What exactly is illegal about the Governor of a state vetoing any bill for any reason?
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It's not the vetoing of a bill that's likely to put a striped jumpsuit on Perry.

It's the reason that he vetoed the bill that's likely to get him sent 'up the river'.
 
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sangha said:
And Governors can appoint people to political positions

How'd that work out for Blago?
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I already cleared your misconception up in that regard. What's the matter? That didn't suit you?
 
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It's a shame that in our absurd partisan climate, any legitimate steps to curb corruption (which this may or may not be) automatically becomes a political move. For all the dissatisfaction that people express about the government, it turns out that calls for honest politicians with integrity really only means replacing members of the other party with their preferred one. This is why we can't have nice things.
 
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danarhea said:
Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prosecutors' funds



All I can say is HOLY CRAP. This is going to be a political crapstorm.

Article is here.
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This is TX--a gov commits 512,635 felonies while in office, and he gets charged w/one crime :rolleyes:
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Rick Perry is pretty much an idiot and a jackass, but this case is going nowhere. Vetoing a bill is perfectly within the prerogative of a State Governor and no rationale is necessary for the action. Hell, pretty much any President who vetoes a bill does so for political reasons.

Only in America could a politician be indicted for actually keeping a promise and doing what he publicly said he'd do.
 
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