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Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat [W:613/629]

Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

I don't know which one it is either. But governors and presidents has used the threat of vetoes to coerce changes in legislation to include budgets. I can see it now, instead of congress suing over executive orders or executive over reach it brings a suit in court stating the president is trying to coerce the congress into making changes it doesn't want to in the president's official capacity.
I believe that you can see it.

Executive approval on legislation losing its value does not seem like a probable or even realistic outcome of this kerfuffle.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

First Delay, now Perry. Nice group these republicans are down here in red-neck Texas.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Is that what you think you did? Strange.
The only connection in what he was indicted for, had absolutely nothing to do with any investigating of him.
I am remembering which one of the posters you are and the odd way you use language.

The group Perry vetoed the funding has something more than "absolutely nothing to do" with the indictment of Perry.
That's why the indictment and the group are being put together in the same news story.

Obviously, your mileage varies for some reason.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

The group Perry vetoed the funding has something more than "absolutely nothing to do" with the indictment of Perry.
That's why the indictment and the group are being put together in the same news story.
:doh
Wrong.
 
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Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

from the link in the OP
...Perry carried out his veto.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry indicted for alleged abuse of power in veto dispute | Fox News
Perry vetoed the money.

So what is it that you mean when you say that Perry didn't funding the group?
Do you mean that Perry tried and failed?

Or what exactly?


You're being disingenuous.

Perry veto wasn't to shut down the extremely Liberal Travis county DAs office.

If that was his intention why did wait this long to do it ?

This was over a specific legislator who was caught driving under the influence.

Perry has the authority to Veto AND announcing his intentions to veto.

Only Democrat Governors shut down State funded investigative groups.

Like Andrew Cuomo for example.

Notice the Libs have kept that to them selves for some reason.
 
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Texas is ground zero for the Democrats. There is a massive movement to get those electoral votes and the means by which they are obtained isn't important.
Do you think the Dems will turn to voter supression and shady gerrymandering practices?
 
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Perry veto wasn't to shut down the extremely Liberal Travis county DAs office.
I see that the goal post has moved.

This was over a specific legislator who was caught driving under the influence.
There's a drunken TX legislator in this mess as well?
Is Texas tolerant of drunks or what?
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Do you think the Dems will turn to voter supression and shady gerrymandering practices?

REAL voter suppression or imagined ?
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Do you think the Dems will turn to voter supression and shady gerrymandering practices?

Ha! The democrats want to flood the districts with illegals then give them the vote!

As far as gerrymandering....I figure they already have that down pretty good.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

POLITICAL WITCH HUNT

Limberg is a lush who got away with spending significant time in jail and berated officer involved in her arrest and confinement. She was stopped as she pulled out of a liquor store parking lot and had another full quart in her vehicle.


INTEGRITY ......NOT! She should have resigned




Actually this thread is about Governor Perry, he's the person who has been indicted and is facing serious jail time, if tried and convicted.

Let's all remember that Perry is innocent until proven guilty, after which his ass will be in jail.

Looking forward to seeing the 'perp walk' photos.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

You're being disingenuous.

Perry veto wasn't to shut down the extremely Liberal Travis county DAs office.

If that was his intention why did wait this long to do it ?

This was over a specific legislator who was caught driving under the influence.

Perry has the authority to Veto AND announcing his intentions to veto.

Only Democrat Governors shut down State funded investigative groups.

Like Andrew Cuomo for example.

Notice the Libs have kept that to them selves for some reason.

DA's aren't legislators.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Perry is going to cut funding for the courts next. Then the prisons. :2razz:
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

I see that the goal post has moved.


There's a drunken TX legislator in this mess as well?
Is Texas tolerant of drunks or what?

No, the Goal post were moved long before I posted in this thread.

Perry's legal authority to Veto spending suddenly morphed into a grand conspiracy to shut down Political investigations.

Its a BS, and its the best the Liberals can do.

Perry's popular in Texas, and through his leadership our economy has grown and so has our surplus.

This is only going to piss off and motivate the majority of Conservative voters in a already Red State.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

From the article.
Mary Anne Wiley, Perry's general counsel, predicted Perry ultimately will be cleared of the charges against him - abuse of official capacity and coercion of a public servant.

"The veto in question was made in accordance with the veto authority afforded to every governor under the Texas Constitution," she said.

David L. Botsford, Perry's defense attorney, whose $450-per hour fees are being paid for by state funds, said he was outraged by the action.

"This clearly represents political abuse of the court system and there is no legal basis in this decision," Botsford said in a statement. "Today's action, which violates the separation of powers outlined in the Texas Constitution, is nothing more than an effort to weaken the constitutional authority granted to the office of Texas governor, and sets a dangerous precedent by allowing a grand jury to punish the exercise of a lawful and constitutional authority afforded to the Texas governor."
 
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Prisons are an extremely important economic industry in these red states--that's why they're going private.
And of course the USA's economy depends on the chemical dependence of its citizens on Alcohol, ciggies and Pharms .
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Perry is going to cut funding for the courts next. Then the prisons. :2razz:


He has the authority to not only Veto spending but to announce that veto.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Sounds like what the rightists call Obama .
He has the authority to not only Veto spending but to announce that veto.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

I believe that you can see it.

Executive approval on legislation losing its value does not seem like a probable or even realistic outcome of this kerfuffle.

We will see, the problem is once a precedence is set then it is free for everyone to use.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Perry will get his day in court, like any other Texan.

Then, if convicted, he goes to jail.

Where it looks like he belongs, based on the available evidence.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Perry will get his day in court, like any other Texan.

Then, if convicted, he goes to jail.
That day in court will include motions to dismiss.



Where it looks like he belongs, based on the available evidence.
:doh
iLOL
:lamo
Not at all.
 
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Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

That day in court will include motions to dismiss.


:doh
iLOL
:lamo
Not at all.




Which may be thrown out.

It's up to the judge.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Yea, the outrage is over Perry's right to Veto, not the fact that this Liberal DA is still in office after a DUI and making a absolute spectacle of herself.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

Which may be thrown out.

It's up to the judge.

"This clearly represents political abuse of the court system and there is no legal basis in this decision," Botsford said in a statement. "Today's action, which violates the separation of powers outlined in the Texas Constitution, is nothing more than an effort to weaken the constitutional authority granted to the office of Texas governor, and sets a dangerous precedent by allowing a grand jury to punish the exercise of a lawful and constitutional authority afforded to the Texas governor."

If the above holds true, dismissal is in order.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat to veto prose

We will see, the problem is once a precedence is set then it is free for everyone to use.
This case is idiosyncratic at least because it involves Texas laws. I don't think that we need to presume that the precedent will apply to other states.
But Ianal.

But, istm, the charge is that this is different from standard veto dramas and idiosyncratic in other ways .
If Perry is convicted it will be because there was something about this case which makes it different from standard issue veto actions.
At least that's my ignorant opinion.

If Perry is not convicted, then maybe this veto drama is different than standard veto dramas without being illegal or it could be the same as run of the mill veto dramas.
Won't be able to tell from that alone.

But if this affair has some characteristics or attributes which distinguish it from "regular" vetoes, then the applicability of the precedent should be limited by those same distinguishing characteristics. Again, Ianal.


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