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Gov. Rick Perry indicted for abuse of power for carrying out threat [W:613/629]

Texmex said:
How many times has Rick Perry been elected President of the United States. My guy has done it twice.
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This post about sums up the average voter in this country. Team oriented voting is never good when both teams sell their souls to the highest bidder.
 
JRSaindo said:
This post about sums up the average voter in this country. Team oriented voting is never good when both teams sell their souls to the highest bidder.
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Supporting one party over the other is not "selling their soul to the highest bidder" when a person agrees with the party they are voting for.
 
Texmex said:
Supporting one party over the other is not "selling their soul to the highest bidder" when a person agrees with the party they are voting for.
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The scorecard

Obama 2 American people +7 trillion in debt, stagnant economic growth, high unemployment under employment, massive govt. dependence, and worldwide foreign policy weakness. Yes, would take Perry in a heartbeat over these results.
 
Conservative said:
The scorecard

Obama 2 American people +7 trillion in debt, stagnant economic growth, high unemployment under employment, massive govt. dependence, and worldwide foreign policy weakness. Yes, would take Perry in a heartbeat over these results.
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If Perry can win the Republican nomination you are free to vote for him. I believe you and I both know this isn't going to happen. Perhaps before these indictments there was a small percentage of a chance he could have competed. Now his chances are pretty much zilch.
 
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Conservative said:
Your guy has created a mess that is going to take a long time to clean up. Your total lack of understanding of leadership is a problem. Your guy has no economic result better than the previous guy but his flowery rhetoric causes you to ignore that reality. Rhetoric trumps results in the liberal world.
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LOL....and yet you STILL claim that GWB was an economic genius that led this country to economic utopia. Too funny.
 
Texmex said:
If Perry can win the Republican nomination you are free to vote for him. I believe you and I both know this isn't going to happen. Perhaps before these indictments there was a small percentage of a chance he could have competed. Now his chances are pretty much zilch.
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This is a liberal witch hunt from an ideology that has no problem with character assassination to promote a failed economic and foreign policy agenda. It really is sad that so many people buy the media spin and think only with their heart ignoring leadership skills, economic results, and executive experience.
 
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disneydude said:
LOL....and yet you STILL claim that GWB was an economic genius that led this country to economic utopia. Too funny.
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Compared to Obama economic results, YEP
 
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Conservative said:
Compared to Obama economic results, YEP
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George bush is the worst president in US history. No president will ever come close to the economic incompetence of Bush. Bush manufactured the worst recession in world history and created an unprecedented Trillion dollar deficit. It's almost as if Bush was trying to be the worst chief executive in world history. Obama is slowly clearing up the bush mess with no help from congress.
 
Conservative said:
This is a liberal witch hunt from an ideology that has no problem with character assassination to promote a failed economic and foreign policy agenda. It really is sad that so many people buy the media spin and think only with their heart ignoring leadership skills, economic results, and executive experience.
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What do the legal problems Rick Perry is dealing have anything to do with a supposed "failed economic and foreign policy agenda"?
 
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99percenter said:
George bush is the worst president in US history. No president will ever come close to the economic incompetence of Bush. Bush manufactured the worst recession in world history and created an unprecedented Trillion dollar deficit. It's almost as if Bush was trying to be the worst chief executive in world history. Obama is slowly clearing up the bush mess with no help from congress.
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That is your opinion but the actual results don't bare that out. Please point out that so called economic incompetence particularly before the Democrats took control of Congress. It does seem that civics isn't a strong suit of yours and you bought the Obama rhetoric and ignored the Obama rhetoric. BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury site show economic results of Bush all better than Obama's but that doesn't matter to the American Idol voter. Sorry but the facts simply prove you wrong.

Were it not for Rick Perry and TX, North Dakota and other Red states, the Obama economic results would be depression type but rather than embrace pro growth, you and your ilk continue to promote the same failed ideology
 
Texmex said:
What do the legal problems Rick Perry is dealing have anything to do with a supposed "failed economic and foreign policy agenda"?
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The legal problems are trumped up charges that distract the low information voter from the failures of Obama. Typical leftwing strategy
 
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Conservative said:
That is your opinion but the actual results don't bare that out. Please point out that so called economic incompetence particularly before the Democrats took control of Congress. It does seem that civics isn't a strong suit of yours and you bought the Obama rhetoric and ignored the Obama rhetoric. BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury site show economic results of Bush all better than Obama's but that doesn't matter to the American Idol voter. Sorry but the facts simply prove you wrong.

Were it not for Rick Perry and TX, North Dakota and other Red states, the Obama economic results would be depression type but rather than embrace pro growth, you and your ilk continue to promote the same failed ideology
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Bush caused the worst economic collapse in world history. Sorry but you're republican tactics on the blaming the opposition instead of accepting your party's responsibility won't work. I am a conservative and I fully accept that Bush was awful because that is the what the facts say. Any non partisan hack can see how bad was bush was. Your loyalty to bush's failed policies are unbelievable. What is about failed republican policies that causes this much loyalty?
 
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99percenter said:
Bush caused the worst economic collapse in world history. Sorry but you're republican tactics on the blaming the opposition instead of accepting your party's responsibility won't work. I am a conservative and I fully accept that Bush was awful because that is the what the facts say. Any non partisan hack can see how bad was bush was. Your loyalty to bush's failed policies are unbelievable. What is about failed republican policies that causes this much loyalty?
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Again, we don't elect a King, we have a Congress who controls the legislation and the purse strings. That Congress was under Democrat Control. Please name for me any economic number that is better today than the Bush averages including the recession? You are hardly a conservative and the facts don't support you, only the media rhetoric. I suggest bea.gov, bls.gov, U.S. Treasury data so that you stop making a fool of yourself.
 
Conservative said:
The legal problems are trumped up charges that distract the low information voter from the failures of Obama. Typical leftwing strategy
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That's one way of looking at it. Of course the geocentric model is one way of looking at the Universe also.
 
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Texmex said:
How many times has Rick Perry been elected President of the United States. My guy has done it twice.
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Quite frankly, in politics, results are supposed to matter.

Getting elected is NOT a result, but rather a starting point.
Getting re-elected is supposed to be a result of positive results from the previous term, and is often considered an affirmation of/agreement with a given elected official's policies.
 
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Conservative said:
Again, we don't elect a King, we have a Congress who controls the legislation and the purse strings. That Congress was under Democrat Control. Please name for me any economic number that is better today than the Bush averages including the recession? You are hardly a conservative and the facts don't support you, only the media rhetoric. I suggest bea.gov, bls.gov, U.S. Treasury data so that you stop making a fool of yourself.
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He collapsed the housing market. He took a surplus and turned it into a trillion dollar deficit. He took 4.3% unemployment and turned into a 10% unemployment. He bailed out banks. He passed bushcare. No child left behind. He let illegal aliens take over our country. He expanded entitlements. Yeah. he is the worst. No doubt about it. Some conservative you are supporting failed policies like Bush's
 
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99percenter said:
He collapsed the housing market. He took a surplus and turned it into a trillion dollar deficit. He took 4.3% unemployment and turned into a 10% unemployment. He bailed out banks. He passed bushcare. No child left behind. He let illegal aliens take over our country. He expanded entitlements. Yeah. he is the worst. No doubt about it. Some conservative you are supporting failed policies like Bush's
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In my mind bush and obama blur together, at least on economic policy.
 
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The Mark said:
Getting elected is NOT a result, but rather a starting point.
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Well, if the result is that you are in second place in a two man race, you don't get a starting point. So I would say the most important result is getting the most votes.
 
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Simon W. Moon said:
DJIA
GDP per capita

I am pretty sure this is far afield from Perry's problems.
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LOL, DJIA? Guess if you pump enough money into the markets keeping interest rates low you are going ot have a stock market bubble. Companies are buying back their stock which is fueling the market

GDP per capita? Here are the GDP numbers but you seem to want to give Obama credit for the 14.4 trillion GDP he inherited

GW Bush 488 Billion per year 2001 through 2008
Barrak Obama 350 billion per year 2009 through 2013

Want to try again? BEA.gov
 
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Texmex said:
Well, if the result is that you are in second place in a two man race, you don't get a starting point. So I would say the most important result is getting the most votes.
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Absolutely incorrect.

That's only the starting point. The new battle starts when you win the election battle. From that point you have massive pressures and demands on your person, and you will always be wrong in someone's eyes. If you get the majority of people to think you're doing a good job, you're doing well.
 
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The Mark said:
Absolutely incorrect.

That's only the starting point. The new battle starts when you win the election battle. From that point you have massive pressures and demands on your person, and you will always be wrong in someone's eyes. If you get the majority of people to think you're doing a good job, you're doing well.
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Explain to me how a candidate gets to implement their agenda if they lost the election? Until then, this is a waste of my time.
 
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Texmex said:
Explain to me how a candidate gets to implement their agenda if they lost the election? Until then, this is a waste of my time.
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Did I ever make such a claim? What I am saying is that winning the election is merely the first battle in a larger war.
 
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Texmex said:
Explain to me how a candidate gets to implement their agenda if they lost the election? Until then, this is a waste of my time.
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Perry implemented his agenda in TX and TX leads the nation is so many positive categories, job creation, population growth, number of Fortune 500 companies relocating.

Obama has implemented his agenda and we have stagnant economic growth, high unemployment/under employment/discouraged workers, high debt, but we do have someone who has lowered his golf handicap and taken great vacations.
 
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