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Obama's vacations and golf outings, by the numbers

Gaius46 said:
As previously stated Obama has "gotten things done" - Obamacare for example - and he certainly has had his share of domestic and foreign problems to deal with.

So how do you conclude he's gotten enough less done than his predecessors to warrant criticism that they escape?
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As previously stated, I said 'since 2009' which is when he did stimulus and obamacare (early 2010). That was his first year in office. Since then, there has been little accomplished, neither in working with congress, or in his executive powers. He attacked Libya, then we had some diplomats murdered there. He aided Syrian rebels, nothing has changed. He objected to Russia invading Ukraine, nothing changed. He sent Kerry to Israel, they laughed at him. He caught Bin Laden, theres a plus, but hard to argue he did anything than say Go. He hasnt addressed the IRS issue, he hasnt reduced spending within his branch, he hasnt fixed the VA, he hasnt sealed the border, or reigned in the NSA. Whats he done other than the least amount of work possible? Hes given a lot of speeches. Hes raised a lot of money for the DNC.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Same thing. For those in Congress to castigate Obama for what they themselves do to a significantly greater extent - and for what their boy Dubya did to a MUCH greater extent - is blatant hypocrisy.
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No, its a logical fallacy, specifically argumentum ex silentio, that the absence of evidence is proof.
 
shrubnose said:
Just how many vacation has Obama taken since January 2009?

How does he compare to his two-term predecessor, George W. Bush?

Read the article here: http://news.yahoo.com/obama-s-vacation-and-golf-outings--by-the-numbers-211532262.html


Everyone needs to take a break from time to time, eh?

Even if he's the president of the USA, who's always on the job, no matter where he is 24/7.
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What's the purpose of this thread, because you know damn well this has been discussed numerous times? A centrist suddenly feeling the need to apologize for a leftwing President while bashing a rightwing one is pretty suspicious to me. Is your politics feeling threatened or something?
 
Its not even us right wing extremist saying this. Liberal media has been all over Obama about this. What would the Ferguson people think if they heard Obama say "chill" and then saw him laughing it up on the golf course? Are they going to go burn down the White House?

President Obama went straight from a press briefing to the putting greens on Thursday. Shortly after making remarks on the situation in northern Iraq and the escalating tensions in Ferguson, Mo., Obama headed to the Vineyard Golf Club, according to a White House press pool report. Obama is in the middle of a two-week summer vacation in Martha's Vineyard, Mass.

Obama’s partners for his latest golf outing included senior adviser Valerie Jarrett’s cousin Cyrus Walker, former U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk and World Bank President Jim Kim, according to the White House.
The commander in chief has been a regular on the golf course and has hit the links nearly every day since arriving in the ritzy enclave on Saturday.

He'll be interrupting his getaway on Sunday for a trip back to Washington for what the White House has described as “a day or two of in-person meetings.”



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American said:
What's the purpose of this thread, because you know damn well this has been discussed numerous times? A centrist suddenly feeling the need to apologize for a leftwing President while bashing a rightwing one is pretty suspicious to me. Is your politics feeling threatened or something?
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Pretty much. Its the same thing as the impeachment issue. Its bait. They know certain people cant address the issue in a logical civil way, so by they bring up the issue in order to get a emotional response. They arent really interested in a debate or a discussion. Notice all the name calling.
 
American said:
What's the purpose of this thread,
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 because you know damn well this has been discussed numerous times? A centrist suddenly feeling the need to apologize for a leftwing President while bashing a rightwing one is pretty suspicious to me. Is your politics feeling threatened or something?
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The purpose of this thread is to counter the many posters on the far right who have posted numerous threads critical of President Obama's vacations.

Just trying to set the record straight with some facts.

Do I expect the endless sniping from the far right losers to ever stop?

Of course not, they can't get Obama out of the White House until another Democrat takes his place in 2017 so that is their only source of relief. :roll:




"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." ~ John Stuart Mill
 
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shrubnose said:
The purpose of this thread is the counter the many posters on the far right who have posted numerous threads critical of President Obama's vacations.

Just trying to set the record straight with some facts.

Do I expect the endless sniping from the far right losers to ever stop?

Of course not, they can't get Obama out of the White House until another Democrat takes his place in 2017 so that is their only source of relief. :roll:




"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." ~ John Stuart Mill
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With the link you provided in the op, I can't believe this has carried on for 14 pages!! There really never was that much to say.
 
DA60 said:
I have no problem with a POTUS vacationing.

But I have a big problem when he charges taxpayers millions and millions of dollars on I ndividual ones (like his Christmas trip to Hawaii).
Every time he flies somewhere he takes Air Force One PLUS at least one other plane (loaded with security vehicles) as well...which costs many millions just to fly for 6-8 hours (like to Hawaii).
And save the 'it's already budgeted' crap. He does not have to spend the money...he could easily give the millions in savings to the local D.C. poor.

I especially object when he is running the country so badly that over 20% of all U.S. households are on food stamps...and getting worse.

Record 20% of Households on Food Stamps in 2013 | CNS News

That is pathetic.

As long as he is Prez and sucking so many of those he governs would go hungry without government assistance; then he can fly coach.

And if that makes it less safe for him, I don't care...he can vacation close to home and travel by car.

He can go on his elaborate vacations when he leaves office.


And Obama lovers with endless excuses for him, please save them...I do not even begin to care what they are.

As long as so many Americans are in such piverty, he can forget the elaborate trips...it won't kill him.
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I long for the pre-Obama days of zero percent poverty.
 
shrubnose said:
The purpose of this thread is to counter the many posters on the far right who have posted numerous threads critical of President Obama's vacations.

Just trying to set the record straight with some facts.

Do I expect the endless sniping from the far right losers to ever stop?

Of course not, they can't get Obama out of the White House until another Democrat takes his place in 2017 so that is their only source of relief. :roll:




"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." ~ John Stuart Mill
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I guess I must have missed the huge increase in complaining lately. I have seen some threads like this in the past, but not lately. No doubt you were also there setting the record straight when Bush was in office, and the Left was complaining.
 
jonny5 said:
Pretty much. Its the same thing as the impeachment issue. Its bait. They know certain people cant address the issue in a logical civil way, so by they bring up the issue in order to get a emotional response. They arent really interested in a debate or a discussion. Notice all the name calling.
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There was never a really impeachment issue since Boehner said it won't happened. I never supported it, even politically.
 
American said:
I guess I must have missed the huge increase in complaining lately. I have seen some threads like this in the past, but not lately.
No doubt you were also there setting the record straight when Bush was in office, and the Left was complaining.
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I never saw any need to set the record straight about Bush, since the complaints about him were totally justified. Take a look at the man's record.

He threw away thousands of lives and airplane loads of cash in Iraq and gained nothing.

His mucking around in Iraq didn't make anyone on this planet even a little bit safer.

The only country that gained anything from Bush's unnecessary war in Iraq was Iran, which is mighty grateful for the help.
 
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shrubnose said:
I never saw any need to set the record straight about Bush, since the complaints about him were totally justified. Take a look at the man's record.

He threw away thousands of lives and airplane loads of cash in Iraq and gained nothing.

His mucking around in Iraq didn't make anyone on this planet even a little bit safer.

The only country that gained anything from Bush's unnecessary war in Iraq was Iran, which is mighty grateful for the help.
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Of course you didn't, my point is made.
 
Montecresto said:
With the link you provided in the op, I can't believe this has carried on for 14 pages!! There really never was that much to say.
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90% of the posts are personal attacks and rhetoric. I think im the only one who has actually offered a debate.
 
I saw that article on Yahoo, just another misleading BS piece to try and cover for Obama. It shows Bush on vacation for 381 days, and Obama for a mere 129 days. Wow, that Bush, what a world traveler, he must have hit every vacation spot there is! Then it shows that out of the 381 days, 381 days were spent at his home in Texas. Oh. I don't usually say I went away on vacation if I stayed home all week. It didn't mention how many days Obama spent at home, but I'm going to guess it was about zero.

So Bush goes to his home, which is basically like a second White House, already set up for the Secret Service, much less costly than an Obama vacation, where he conducts business like receiving world leaders. Obama goes on vacations that most people can't afford (even though he is so concerned about the income gap and the regular guy), plays golf all year.

Now, remember, the left had a fit that Bush played golf when we had troops in harms way. No problem with Obama, he needs to relax.

I wonder how many days Bush was in the Oval Office at 7 AM vs. Obama? How many parties have they hosted at the White House? Special concerts with world renown stars? Didn't see any of that in the article. Well, we wouldn't want to give the full picture, just a little slice of numbers that misleads people. That is the intent.

And I see, as usually, there are many here that are more than willing to swallow it with no questions asked, not a bit of curiosity. And that's why we have this big dummy in the White House. You people are not helping the country, to be blunt.
 
shrubnose said:
He's the leader of the GOP which will be reduced to a minor, regional, party in about 30-years when massive demographic change hits it like a tidal wave.

Wait and see.




I know that someone will say that he's not the leader of the GOP, and my response to that is: Then why do so many GOP leaders bow down to him?
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Such inflammatory rhetoric...Limbaugh is a commentator...No different that say a Thom Hartmann is on the left...Do the leaders in the liberal demo party "bow down" to Hartmann? Your characterization is only rooted in flinging mud, and trolling for reaction...It is not based in any fact at all.
 
j-mac said:
Such inflammatory rhetoric...
Limbaugh is a commentator...
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No different that say a Thom Hartmann is on the left...Do the leaders in the liberal demo party "bow down" to Hartmann? Your characterization is only rooted in flinging mud, and trolling for reaction...It is not based in any fact at all.
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He sure is, and he's a commentator that a lot of big people in the GOP have bowed down to and apologized to.

That is an ironclad fact whether you or anyone else likes it or not.
 
shrubnose said:
He sure is, and he's a commentator that a lot of big people in the GOP have bowed down to and apologized to.

That is an ironclad fact whether you or anyone else likes it or not.
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Oh please...So these "big people" said something insulting about Limbaugh that you liked, and they apologized so you want to mischaracterize that into them "bowing" to him? Here's a clue to you, I doubt that you like what anyone who doesn't think like you or agree with your abrasive pontifications has to say, so aren't we just lucky that you are not the arbiter of what can, or can not be said...And further, most couldn't care less about what you find acceptable or not...The same goes for me, you, and everyone else in here that thinks that their bloviation means anything.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Nice try, but no cigar. If you were right, then Fox News wouldn't be trying to claim that Bush actually had fewer vacations than Obama.
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Am I fox news? If you have a problem with their opinions, take it up with them. You criticized ME for not criticizing Bush or Congress (even though I wasnt on this forum when Bush was President, and Im sure you didnt go back and read all of my thousands of posts). Which again is a fallacy. Youre saying my alleged not saying something is proof of my opinion on something else.
 
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