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Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

jamesrage said:
The only ones who hate their country are scumbags who thinks it is alright if our government wipes its **** covered ass with the Constitution in order to spy on the people.
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Rah rah rah!
 
Wiggen said:
And if you think that the only 'secrets' contained in the NSA files dealt with 'spying' on americans, then you are a fool. He took everything.

Military spy chief: Have to assume Russia knows U.S. secrets - CNN.com

He could have gone to a lot of countries besides Russia and been perfectly safe. But he chose Russia, because he knew he'd receive a hero's welcome. He's a traitor and I hope he rots in hell.
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The same government that wiped it's **** covered ass with the constutition and lied to the people about says so then it must be true.The traitors are those in the NSA who continue to spy on Americans and those in office who continue to allow the NSA to spy on the American people.
 
Wiggen said:
You've made your point perfectly clear. You hate your country and you don't give a damn what military secrets were provided to Putin and his cronies. Good for you.
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And you made yours, you are a government drone, you would thrive under orwells "1984" society.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
I asked yes or no...

You didn't answer...

That's kinda damning...

That's why this legal activity continues lol

But lol I'm sure you'll be mad about it.
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I answered... you just didn't like the answer. I don't get mad at people who obviously confused and misguided.
 
Ockham said:
I answered... you just didn't like the answer. I don't get mad at people who obviously confused and misguided.
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A lawsuit was brought up. Lawsuits are often brought up, that doesn't mean anything. Sorry? Good luck on your next Waco.
 
Ockham said:
Obviously since I'm the one who brought it up.
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You brought up the lawsuit? That would explain so much.

I already addressed this - apparently you either forgot or didn't read it.
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yeah, that's what I'm making fun of.

Waco as in Texas? Care to explain?
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You don't get it? Explains so much lol

By the way ---- hows that proof coming along? Get to that yet or..... :lamo
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Proof of a negative? hahahahahahahahahahah
 
OldWorldOrder said:
You brought up the lawsuit? That would explain so much.
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You forgot did you?


OldWorldOrder said:
You don't get it? Explains so much lol
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I get you're misguided and can't provide a shred of evidence. That's been abundantly clear from the start.



OldWorldOrder said:
Proof of a negative? hahahahahahahahahahah
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Already addressed - you're proving that the NSA did not illegally spy on citizens, as I have already addressed this too.

Remember?

Ockham said:
Hardly - I've posted a link showing the NSA spied on Americans without FISA. You say this is untrue. It is therefore incumbent upon you to prove my information and facts are incorrect. You are not proving a negative, you are proving your view positive.

So please... put up or shut up.
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Can't do it huh? This is almost getting too easy... :lamo
 
Ockham said:
You forgot did you?


I get you're misguided and can't provide a shred of evidence. That's been abundantly clear from the start.



Already addressed - you're proving that the NSA did not illegally spy on citizens, as I have already addressed this too.

Remember?



Can't do it huh? This is almost getting too easy... :lamo
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I can't help it if someone doesn't understand that you can't prove a negative. Like...this is logic 101. What else is there to say at that point?
 
Snowden's actions were good for society, and I greatly admire him for having the courage to do it.

Humans thrive on truth and suffer under deception.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
I can't help it if someone doesn't understand that you can't prove a negative. Like...this is logic 101. What else is there to say at that point?
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Ockham said:
Hardly - I've posted a link showing the NSA spied on Americans without FISA. You say this is untrue. It is therefore incumbent upon you to prove my information and facts are incorrect. You are not proving a negative, you are proving your view positive.
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You could do what I requested which is not proving a negative.
 
Jack Hays said:
I already posted the link that explained the legal basis and background of FISA-less monitoring, and when it ended.
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And I already posted why wiki articles are not evidence.
 
Ockham said:
You could do what I requested which is not proving a negative.
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Metadata collection is not spying. I know you've been told that before, so I don't understand why you keep asking.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Metadata collection is not spying. I know you've been told that before, so I don't understand why you keep asking.
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You haven't proven it was only metadata. You seem under a delusion that I will take your word for it.... I don't.
 
Ockham said:
You haven't proven it was only metadata. You seem under a delusion that I will take your word for it.... I don't.
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And you haven't proven it was any more than metadata. So who does the onus fall on, the person making the claim (you) or not? All I'm claiming is that your claim isn't true.

it doesn't matter what you believe or not, because frankly you don't matter. Sorry.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
And you haven't proven it was any more than metadata. So who does the onus fall on, the person making the claim (you) or not? All I'm claiming is that your claim isn't true.

it doesn't matter what you believe or not, because frankly you don't matter. Sorry.
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Of course I have. The link to that information was provided in the HuffPo piece. Have you read it you'd not be making moronic posts.

The Intercept said:
The spreadsheet shows 7,485 email addresses listed as monitored between 2002 and 2008. Many of the email addresses on the list appear to belong to foreigners whom the government believes are linked to Al Qaeda, Hamas, and Hezbollah. Among the Americans on the list are individuals long accused of terrorist activity, including Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan, who were killed in a 2011 drone strike in Yemen.
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Monitoring emails is more than metadata. Please, keep digging in your hole. I'm loving it. :popcorn2:
 
Ockham said:
Of course I have.
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No, you haven't. I'm very, very sorry. What you quoted has to do with warrants but of course the Intercept didn't tell you that, because because it's the Intercept lol
 
OldWorldOrder said:
No, you haven't. I'm very, very sorry
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Aww... that's so sweet. I'll make sure to go out of my way to destroy your baseless opinions again in the future though - so don't be too sorry. :mrgreen:

Have a nice night!
 
Ockham said:
Aww... that's so sweet. I'll make sure to go out of my way to destroy your baseless opinions again in the future though - so don't be too sorry. :mrgreen:

Have a nice night!
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Take it easy! Watch out for those spies!
 
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