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Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

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Appeasement?


Something to that affect.....huh? Considering Holder and BO were looking into and conducting a Civil Rights Investigation.



Also Friday, the Justice Department confirmed in a statement that FBI agents had conducted several interviews with witnesses as part of a civil-rights investigation into Brown's death. In the days ahead, the agents planned to canvass the neighborhood where the shooting happened, seeking more information, the statement said.....snip~

Gov declares emergency, imposes curfew in Ferguson
 
Something to that affect.....huh? Considering Holder and BO were looking into and conducting a Civil Rights Investigation.



Also Friday, the Justice Department confirmed in a statement that FBI agents had conducted several interviews with witnesses as part of a civil-rights investigation into Brown's death. In the days ahead, the agents planned to canvass the neighborhood where the shooting happened, seeking more information, the statement said.....snip~

Gov declares emergency, imposes curfew in Ferguson

Okay. How about appearance of appeasement?

When the Police were replaced they were appeased and settled down for a while, only to later realize they weren't going to get what they wanted, so acted up again.
And this force had to act the same as the original.

Which just shows it wasn't the original force that was the problem. :shrug:
 
I doubt that either were involved in this case, nor with that rancher in Nevada either, nor with many other Americans who were attacked by the police without the traditional sufficient cause. 66 Percent of Americans Now Live in a Constitution-Free Zone | The Nation

I'd be willing to bet that gangs, the same ones that have been selling drugs in the neighborhood where the riots took place, were involved in the violence. As for the rancher in Nevada, no gangs involved there, just the Sovereign Citizens. Taking away the financial incentive to form gangs wouldn't end all of the violence in the US, but would certainly mitigate it.
 
Who said they were? Setting up stawmen will not win you any debate points.



So all older people think alike eh? How very ageist of you. What you don't seem to understand is that as technology and weaponry advances, so to will tactics...Would you have police today (whom in most cases are outgunned) going up against .50cal's with .38 revolvers? Would you not equip cops with riot gear to hold the line against anarchist rioters? Your youth doesn't reflect the real world, and we don't have all the facts in this...You are choosing to believe people with an anti police bias. And what I have consistently said is that the investigation has to be completed before you can just buy into these friends of the young man...


Former Cops Speak Out About Police Militarization

Instead, the divide appears to be more generational. Older and retired cops don't seem to like were policing is headed. (This is a generalization and an observation -- I haven't taken any polls.) Younger cops, who are nudging policing in a more militaristic direction, are naturally fine with it. Retired police Lt. Diane Goldstein, for example, wrote about the book and her concerns over militarization here at Huffington Post, as did retired NYPD Det. John Baeza over at Law Enforcement Against Prohibition.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/01/cops-speak-out-on-police-_n_3688999.html

How the War on Terror Has Militarized the Police

Over the past 10 years, law enforcement officials have begun to look and act more and more like soldiers. Here's why we should be alarmed.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national...-on-terror-has-militarized-the-police/248047/

http://www.economist.com/news/unite...-have-become-too-militarised-cops-or-soldiers
 
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Former Cops Speak Out About Police Militarization

Instead, the divide appears to be more generational. Older and retired cops don't seem to like were policing is headed. (This is a generalization and an observation -- I haven't taken any polls.) Younger cops, who are nudging policing in a more militaristic direction, are naturally fine with it. Retired police Lt. Diane Goldstein, for example, wrote about the book and her concerns over militarization here at Huffington Post, as did retired NYPD Det. John Baeza over at Law Enforcement Against Prohibition.

Former Cops Speak Out About Police Militarization

How the War on Terror Has Militarized the Police

Over the past 10 years, law enforcement officials have begun to look and act more and more like soldiers. Here's why we should be alarmed.

How the War on Terror Has Militarized the Police - The Atlantic

Paramilitary police: Cops or soldiers? | The Economist

And criminals have escalated to look, and act more like terrorists....So what's your solution? de-arm the police? You want to see more cops dead in the line of duty?
 
And criminals have escalated to look, and act more like terrorists....So what's your solution? de-arm the police? You want to see more cops dead in the line of duty?

What a ridiculous claim, back that **** up. What you have to say on this pales when compared to what former law enforcement is saying.
 
What a ridiculous claim, back that **** up. What you have to say on this pales when compared to what former law enforcement is saying.

Wow, you found a couple of retired democrat cops that parrot what you want to put forth in your propaganda, and that is all you need...Typical blinded support of an agenda...

I asked you a question I noticed you wouldn't address. Care to now?
 
Ric Bradshaw, sheriff in Palm Beach County, Florida - snip -

"...the fact that criminals are becoming better armed, as was highlighted in recent bank robbery in Stockton, California"...

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The fact is that criminals are better armed than police. To listen to some in here they would be happy to see more cops killed in the line of duty rather than ensure their own safety.
 
Wow, you found a couple of retired democrat cops that parrot what you want to put forth in your propaganda, and that is all you need...Typical blinded support of an agenda...

I asked you a question I noticed you wouldn't address. Care to now?

How do you know what there politics are, and why politics would have any bearing on such a topic. The CATO institute is quite conservative and they have an extensive policy paper on this quoted. This isn't a partisan issue, much as you would like to make it one. Otherwise there seemed to be no reason to respond to your silly question that the police might be disarmed.
 
How do you know what there politics are, and why politics would have any bearing on such a topic. The CATO institute is quite conservative and they have an extensive policy paper on this quoted. This isn't a partisan issue, much as you would like to make it one. Otherwise there seemed to be no reason to respond to your silly question that the police might be disarmed.

You offer no way for police to respond to dangerous situations like what is happening in Ferguson, yet want everyone to believe you have a better answer...It's laughable....
 
The fact is that criminals are better armed than police. To listen to some in here they would be happy to see more cops killed in the line of duty rather than ensure their own safety.

What an asinine thing to say. You just keep digging your **** hole deeper. Quote one person in this thread that has said "they would be happy to see more cops killed".
 
Of course. I'm the reason a young man got shot by police and a small Missouri city burns at night in response.

Jail me and throw away the key - all America's problems solved.

I'm curious - when a Hispanic youth gets shot, do Hispanics go out in hordes and burn up their cities? How about when an Asian youth gets shot? Is it possible this so called marginalization is a direct result of the marginalized not being civilized?

In one word...absolutely. They are NOT civilized. "We" be mistreated 200 or 300 years back and you white piece of **** are going to keep paying the price....FOREVER. YOU OWE US.
 
This is exactly what was not needed.

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It was 2 before the thief got shot and the third was the thief.

Alright. Amazing. rampant crime. Thank goodness you and the Ferguson police have adopted the Judge Dredd style judicial system.
 
Alright. Amazing. rampant crime. Thank goodness you and the Ferguson police have adopted the Judge Dredd style judicial system.

Only you would think that 3 deaths in a week is not a bad thing. Thankfully no one else has to depend on you to keep them safe.
 
Only you would think that 3 deaths in a week is not a bad thing. Thankfully no one else has to depend on you to keep them safe.

Riiiigggght. You are the one claiming to be on the side of the shooters and not the dead are you not? So what's your complaint?
 
In one word...absolutely. They are NOT civilized. "We" be mistreated 200 or 300 years back and you white piece of **** are going to keep paying the price....FOREVER. YOU OWE US.

What do you call it when someone pretends to be in the head of an entire race and does a really ridiculous broad sweep generalization of them?
 
Riiiigggght. You are the one claiming to be on the side of the shooters and not the dead are you not? So what's your complaint?

Your the one who didnt see anything wrong with people dying and considered it normal behavior. Perhaps you dont like black people?
 
oh noes... next thing they'll be doing those terrorist fist jabs.
Your ignorant levity serve no purpose.
It is seriously lack of judgement to march with the demonstrators who are marching in opposition to the police, and in showing any comradery with any criminal element.
 
This whole issue is a freaking joke. These people looting are animals. The black panther party, sharpton, and the rest are animals. They don't have 1 bit of information on this case and yet they side with the deceased because he is black. Racist bastards.

It is sad that the news organizations pump more fuel into this fire. We know nothing about this case. And yet rioting has occurred.
 
Your the one who didnt see anything wrong with people dying and considered it normal behavior. Perhaps you dont like black people?

lol... just keep rooting for the shooters while you try to do this whole backwards flip around.
 
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