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Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

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So if someone who has been to Iraq says the opposite, you don't believe it?

I think he's taking the statement out of context. They didn't point their gun at civilians all day long. Sure, there were situations that called for it, but it wasn't SOP for civilians minding their own business.

Are these soldiers doing it wrong?

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I haven't any agenda, I'd prefer to let the dust settle, let the emotions calm, let the investigations come to completion and then we can be dogmatic, theory and speculation is mostly what we have now. And I'm not dismissing your source, I was only getting a chuckle out of your conclusions about a town so far from you based on a single residents testimony, on the merits that it bolstered your preconceived idea that young black men are always thugs and this one surely deserved to be killed.

If that's what you got from the comment I posted that you referred to, your reading comprehension skills are sorely lacking.

The point of my posting the comment was to indicate that the community where this happened seemed to have a good relationship with the police department and were pleased that the police were conducting increased patrols in the area because of some petty crime, burglaries, etc.

Again, just because you have a particular agenda to promote doesn't give you free access to distorting what others post.
 
Good grief!!

The term used was "Black Bloc". The reference is to an anarchist group, not an ethnic group.

Double good grief! Did you see his post inquiring about hispanics and other races?
 
I think he's taking the statement out of context. They didn't point their gun at civilians all day long. Sure, there were situations that called for it, but it wasn't SOP for civilians minding their own business.

Are these soldiers doing it wrong?

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I never served in the military so I honestly don't know if they're doing it right. Are they?
 
Are you saying that black people aren't civilized?

Several in Ferguson, Missouri, as witnessed on news reports the past few nights aren't what I'd call civilized. If they're civilized in your book, I'd suggest your refusal to recognize the problem is a much bigger part of the problem.
 
Ah, I see. Deflection.
You have nothing regarding the known facts and Brown's criminal actions.

You claimed he flashed a Crip sign. I didn't see that picture. You are failing to back up your claim.

What is Brown's criminal record?
 
Several in Ferguson, Missouri, as witnessed on news reports the past few nights aren't what I'd call civilized. If they're civilized in your book, I'd suggest your refusal to recognize the problem is a much bigger part of the problem.

Then why were you asking about other races?

I'm glad you are walking it back to "some" now. Some in every group are uncivilized.
 
As usual the facts come out, it turns out liberals have been defending a thug. and now we have to listen to them try to rationalize why they are still not WRONG on this issue, and that WE are all still racists.

ah liberals. never change
 
As usual the facts come out, it turns out liberals have been defending a thug. and now we have to listen to them try to rationalize why they are still not WRONG on this issue, and that WE are all still racists.

ah liberals. never change

Can you link to where Mr. Brown had a gun?
 
These weren't black people. I just thought you should know.

All the Black Bloc thugs were wearing masks and black clothing to hide their identities at the time of the riot - only those fools who decided to join in the "fun" once it got started were tracked down and tried.

Again, I'm prepared to concede that many/most, perhaps all were not black but they acted in the same rabid animal way as the black youth of Ferguson, Missouri did.

No matter how many deflections you throw up in your misguided need to justify black youth rampages in Ferguson, you can't wipe away the stain that exists there.
 
You claimed he flashed a Crip sign. I didn't see that picture. You are failing to back up your claim.
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No, you saw the picture and instead of pointing out that crip was wrong and it was actually blood sign, you decided to play a stupid game which I then played along with.
So again. You have nothing regarding the known facts and Brown's criminal actions.


What is Brown's criminal record?
Criminal actions. Not records.
You again are not paying attention or are trying to deflect with absurdities.
The video of his criminal actions has been provided.
So again. You have nothing regarding the known facts and Brown's criminal actions.
 
Good grief!!

The term used was "Black Bloc". The reference is to an anarchist group, not an ethnic group.

Deflection is the name of the game here - anything but acceptance of the fact that the poor, marginalized babies are responsible for their own personal actions.
 
All the Black Bloc thugs were wearing masks and black clothing to hide their identities at the time of the riot - only those fools who decided to join in the "fun" once it got started were tracked down and tried.

Again, I'm prepared to concede that many/most, perhaps all were not black but they acted in the same rabid animal way as the black youth of Ferguson, Missouri did.

No matter how many deflections you throw up in your misguided need to justify black youth rampages in Ferguson, you can't wipe away the stain that exists there.

Please be honest. I am not justifying the rioting and looting. Your insistence that I am is intellectually dishonest.
 
Then why were you asking about other races?

I'm glad you are walking it back to "some" now. Some in every group are uncivilized.

I'm not walking anything back - I don't have to walk back your distortions of my comments - nice try though.
 
"Quiet and shy. And talked to him about Jesus."

Isn't that special?

That's rich. :lamo

Well now. The plot thickens......

I wonder if he was talking about Jesus when he committed the strong arm robbery 10 minutes before he was shot?

 
Can you link to where Mr. Brown had a gun?

right, because a 6'4' 300 pound man can't be a threat unless he has a gun, and can't overpower an officer and take HIS gun. gotcha

did you see the video. did you see what he did to that old man just trying to protect his own property?! and you feel good defend that person? and what does that say about you?
 
Please be honest. I am not justifying the rioting and looting. Your insistence that I am is intellectually dishonest.

No more intellectually dishonest than your attempts to paint myself, and others, as racists because we call out black youth burning and looting in Ferguson, Missouri. You dishonestly try to discount those views by claiming we taint all blacks as such.

I'll take no lessons on intellectual honesty from a rookie in the field.
 
Once the officer had control of his firearm and Mr. Brown was running away the officer had no reasonable reason to keep shooting him.

It depends. If an officer believes the suspect constitutes an risk to public safety, they can shoot a fleeing suspect.

Interestingly, the police chief there just said that in the *initial* contact of cop and Brown, the cop didnt know about the armed robbery. However it is possible that he received word during the confrontation that there was an armed robbery nearby, description of suspects, etc. And he may have believed he had a weapon and was a danger to the public.

It's just speculation. But we *do not know* at this point and we cant yet say.
 
right, because a 6'4' 300 pound man can't be a threat unless he has a gun, and can't overpower an officer and take HIS gun. gotcha

did you see the video. did you see what he did to that old man just trying to protect his own property?! and you feel good defend that person? and what does that say about you?

It seems Mr. Brown prefers to strong arm. He don't need no schtinkin' gun! LOL!
 
An entire story dedicated to show how white the police department and government are in Ferguson. Obviously, white people are incapable of performing a function like this in a black community, right? (Don't need an answer because I know it already.)

Just thinking out loud:

If white cops are incapable of fairly policing communities comprised of mostly other races, perhaps they shouldnt?

Maybe we should leave that decision up to those communities? Your choice: These cops? No cops? Provide men from your community that can qualify and will become cops?
 
right, because a 6'4' 300 pound man can't be a threat unless he has a gun, and can't overpower an officer and take HIS gun. gotcha

did you see the video. did you see what he did to that old man just trying to protect his own property?! and you feel good defend that person? and what does that say about you?

Way to distort my stance.

Once Mr.Brown broke away from the cop and was running away, he was shot, unarmed. That is what I take exception to.

Next time ask me what my stance is. It will keep you from being so wrong.
 
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