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Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

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Hey, you're the one that suggested it. Meanwhile, do you give a damn that an unarmed kid was gunned down in the street by a trigger happy cop? Or was he guilty of the crime of being a black teenager and therefore he got what he deserved.

None of that justifies insurection.
 
None of that justifies insurection.

Of course it doesn't, nobody thinks that. Unfortunately every time we have a situation of police excess, people ruin a perfect opportunity to hold protestations demanding justice in a manner that would demand respect and an appropriate response, by doing stupid stuff such as we're seeing now, diminishing legitimacy.
 
Of course it doesn't, nobody thinks that. Unfortunately every time we have a situation of police excess, people ruin a perfect opportunity to hold protestations demanding justice in a manner that would demand respect and an appropriate response, by doing stupid stuff such as we're seeing now, diminishing legitimacy.

Then someone needs to clue the idiots in.
 
Of course it doesn't, nobody thinks that. Unfortunately every time we have a situation of police excess, people ruin a perfect opportunity to hold protestations demanding justice in a manner that would demand respect and an appropriate response, by doing stupid stuff such as we're seeing now, diminishing legitimacy.

You, and others say there's no justification, but steadily make excuses for it.
 
Depending on your view, the supposed victim, or the supposed criminal/thug.

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May I point out to the fact that the two people are not even the same color? Wait... conservative... tree house? Lol. Nvm. You're just trolling.
 
You, and others say there's no justification, but steadily make excuses for it.

Bull****, quote me excusing this ****, every post of mine condemns this as criminal and having the opposite effect that they need. I just want police excess to be addressed and for these people to stop destroying property and demand it in a civil but forceful manner.
 
Of course it doesn't, nobody thinks that. Unfortunately every time we have a situation of police excess, people ruin a perfect opportunity to hold protestations demanding justice in a manner that would demand respect and an appropriate response, by doing stupid stuff such as we're seeing now, diminishing legitimacy.

That's part of the problem. We really don't know if the shooting was excessive or not. There are reports that the cop was treated for a swollen face. If that was caused by the kid punching him then it may not have been excessive to shoot him.

We're seeing the same stuff now that we saw in the Trayvon Martin deal but it's being taken to a new and more violent level.

The cop isn't going anywhere and there will be an investigation. If people just waited for that to happen we wouldn't have these issues but, unfortunately, the decision was made to jump to a conclusion and exact "justice" based on that conclusion.

It's pretty damned revealing that the same people who want the benefit of the doubt when it comes to them being accused of a crime are unwilling to tender that same benefit to the cop.
 
That's part of the problem. We really don't know if the shooting was excessive or not. There are reports that the cop was treated for a swollen face. If that was caused by the kid punching him then it may not have been excessive to shoot him.

We're seeing the same stuff now that we saw in the Trayvon Martin deal but it's being taken to a new and more violent level.

The cop isn't going anywhere and there will be an investigation. If people just waited for that to happen we wouldn't have these issues but, unfortunately, the decision was made to jump to a conclusion and exact "justice" based on that conclusion.

It's pretty damned revealing that the same people who want the benefit of the doubt when it comes to them being accused of a crime are unwilling to tender that same benefit to the cop.

Except that destroying property of people uninvolved and stealing doesn't exact any justice, and actually injures their cause.
 
That's part of the problem. We really don't know if the shooting was excessive or not. There are reports that the cop was treated for a swollen face. If that was caused by the kid punching him then it may not have been excessive to shoot him.

So... a swollen face is enough to shoot someone? I'll remember that from now on. I mean, if a suspect defended himself from a violent police officer and the officer decided to shoot him, it'd be justifiable... YES?
 
Bull****, quote me excusing this ****, every post of mine condemns this as criminal and having the opposite effect that they need. I just want police excess to be addressed and for these people to stop destroying property and demand it in a civil but forceful manner.

Sure thing my friend...

Residual effects of our past humanitarian abuse thru slavery and ill treatment at least until civil rights act, NOT making excuses, but there are reasons why were seeing things like this.
 
So... a swollen face is enough to shoot someone? I'll remember that from now on. I mean, if a suspect defended himself from a violent police officer and the officer decided to shoot him, it'd be justifiable... YES?

If true, it proves Brown assaulted the officer.
 
Sure thing my friend...

Right! See the word NOT in all caps preceding the words making excuses???? Now quote me making excuses for the criminal behaviour in Fergeson.
 
Sure thing my friend...

Residual effects of our past humanitarian abuse thru slavery and ill treatment at least until civil rights act, NOT making excuses, but there are reasons why were seeing things like this.

Giving a reason for why it happens doesn't excuse it. For example, John was texting while driving. It is the reason why John was in an accident. He's establishing precedent and demonstrating a reason for an event if he doesn't excuse the reason. Learn to analyze what it is you're reading. It'll save you some embarrassment.
 
If true, it proves Brown assaulted the officer.

Lmao - self defense is assault? Well, that's definitely a new one.
 
So... a swollen face is enough to shoot someone? I'll remember that from now on. I mean, if a suspect defended himself from a violent police officer and the officer decided to shoot him, it'd be justifiable... YES?

We don't know whether the shooting was justifiable or not, as there has been no investigation. What is certain is that going out and looting businesses that had nothing to do with the shooting is not justified.
 
So... a swollen face is enough to shoot someone? I'll remember that from now on. I mean, if a suspect defended himself from a violent police officer and the officer decided to shoot him, it'd be justifiable... YES?

The melodrama level in these threads is getting stifling but I'll play.

If the cop has a swollen face that might be an indication that he was attacked. It doesn't explain why he was attacked or even that Brown caused the injury but it should be part of the investigation. It's also my understanding that there were two kids involved when this whole thing went down so if the cop was being attacked and he's not the one that started the incident then yes, shooting may well have been warranted.
 
All black people look alike. I understand. But that's not him.

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May I point out to the fact that the two people are not even the same color? Wait... conservative... tree house? Lol. Nvm. You're just trolling.

Can't honestly say I'm good at judging faces from photos no matter what color the subject is, but I do notice you chose the most innocent pictures of Brown you could find. And he is no small fellow. Imagine if you're a police officer and you have that fellow going for your gun.

I'm not saying that's absolutely what happened, but the posters saying, "wait for the results of the investigation" are absolutely right on.
 
Did he ever get around to interviewing Mr. Brown's friend who was an eyewitness?


BTW, I know you won't concede that you were wrong, but I noticed you ignored my previous post to you.
I'm not ignoring anything. You don't know anymore than I do about this.
 
Lmao - self defense is assault? Well, that's definitely a new one.

There is absolutely no mention of any self defense situation on the parts of the two youths by either the police or the surviving youth.
 
We don't know whether the shooting was justifiable or not, as there has been no investigation. What is certain is that going out and looting businesses that had nothing to do with the shooting is not justified.

Well, in all fairness the looting seems to have died down. However, we continue to see a complete focus on the 2-3 days of violence as opposed to the fact that the riots only began because the entire police department of St. Louis refuses to investigate their own in a transparent manner.
 
Really?- there is no possible way that the police officer could have gotten out of the police car, apprehended the man (walking down the middle of the street is an offense), and then the man started to resist once the police officer attempted to actually place him in the police car?

On the contrary, the totality suggests that there was a perfect storm of circumstances:

- "D-ck size contest" ensues
-Officer is out numbered 2-1
-Man physically resists (Officer was probably not used to grappling- and espescially not with a larger opponent)
-Man breaks free and saunters off (now officer is losing the "d-ck contest")
-Officer loses track of the third person- is he also going to attack?
-Officer panics and shoots.

What the officer should have done is simply let the man go, called for back up, figured out who he was (he was well known in the area), then arrest him later for reisting arrest and causing a traffic obstruction.
No, the police were called because these two st I Le from the QT. See you don't even have that right.
 
Lmao - self defense is assault? Well, that's definitely a new one.

If you hit a cop, its assault...period. You cant hit a cop jus cause he be dissin u.
 
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