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Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

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I never said nor implied racism.
The quote and link you offered could very easily be read to imply racism. And...I'm absolutely willing to consider racial if not racist (there is a difference) beliefs plays a factor. I was merely pointing out that you CANNOT look at singular statistics to gain validity or even to make a 'point'.
 
The quote and link you offered could very easily be read to imply racism. And...I'm absolutely willing to consider racial if not racist (there is a difference) beliefs plays a factor. I was merely pointing out that you CANNOT look at singular statistics to gain validity or even to make a 'point'.

Valid point.

My participation in this thread so far has been to point out where the racial tensions are and not that there is racism going on. If authority is one race and the populace is another, you gotta see this kind of thing coming.
 
Valid point.

My participation in this thread so far has been to point out where the racial tensions are and not that there is racism going on. If authority is one race and the populace is another, you gotta see this kind of thing coming.
Sure. I get that. I'm not a quota fan, but it does make sense to at least aggressively pursue viable candidates for law enforcement that are at least sample representative of the communities they serve.
 
You and I serve a useful purpose on this board--we get it out of our systems and run off the ones who need to leave.
We had almost made some headway with Robin Williams until Rush had to stir the pot again.

Missouri is a ****ing awesome state.
I've recently traveled a brand-new US 60--All across the Southern part of the state West--East.
In and out of Mark Twain Nat'l Forest--I loved the people down there.

Too much is good between us to get divided like this every damn time there is a problem--especially so tragic.
It's high time we all, especially me, no longer enter threads all bitched up ready to argue .
And I have no problem with that, or my friends, family and employer knowing I'm clownboy. Because I don't do the knee jerk hate rants like you do. Would you like to get back on topic now?
 
There are now 3 eyewitnesses who have not been interviewed.

Johnson, 22, will be speaking with the FBI and the St. Louis County prosecutor later Wednesday, the Washington Post's Wesley Lowery reported Wednesday.
Dorian Johnson, Mike Brown Shooting Witness, Meeting With FBI And County Prosecutor

And here he gave a complete interview to CNN about the event - not to mention other news outlets. Now the FBI and police will compare his statements to those he gave in the schedule interview yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlMjhoYPmZ8

The investigation is underway, the FBI/police are not obligated tell us who they interview, it nice if they do but there are no rules they must.
 
Sure. I get that. I'm not a quota fan, but it does make sense to at least aggressively pursue viable candidates for law enforcement that are at least sample representative of the communities they serve.

The force would have to be 67% black officers to represent the community mix. Currently only 3 of the 53 officers are black.

Even though the population of Ferguson is overwhelmingly African American, only three of the 53 officers on the force are African American.

"Diversity is one of those things we've been trying to do since I've been with the department," said Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson.

Jackson said he has been recruiting officers from minority backgrounds and has also been offering better pay. Jackson said the department has lost some minority officers because of better offers from other departments.

"Its an issue that's come up alongside the tragedy that happened Saturday," Jackson said.

Pastor Spencer Llamar Booker of the St. Paul AME Church met with Jackson Tuesday.

"An officer that is sworn to protect and serve, whether white or black, must be accountable for their actions," Booker said

MO-Racial-makeup-of-Ferguson-police
 
You are one of the better new posters Meadowlark .
Dorian Johnson, Mike Brown Shooting Witness, Meeting With FBI And County Prosecutor

And here he gave a complete interview to CNN about the event - not to mention other news outlets. Now the FBI and police will compare his statements to those he gave in the schedule interview yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlMjhoYPmZ8

The investigation is underway, the FBI/police are not obligated tell us who they interview, it nice if they do but there are no rules they must.
 
So if 70% of the Police force were Black, they wouldn't be rioting?

If the police force was more representative of the population as a whole, they'd undoubtedly have less reason to protest. My God, this isn't rocket science we're talking about here. Cops generally have an 'us against them' mentality, and when the cops are white and 'them' are black, you have a recipe for stuff like this.
 
Sucks to het called out for promoting violence, huh?

Why not just ask me when I stopped beating my wife?

Good grief. Do you need an embroidered invitation to reality?
 
Far too few Americans recognise danger when they see it.

The fiasco in Ferguson shows why you don't give military equipment to cops!


First, let's see what they got. Here's a representative sample from Paul Szoldra, who served in Afghanistan himself:

In photos taken on Monday, we are shown a heavily armed SWAT team. They have short-barreled 5.56-mm rifles based on the military M4 carbine, with scopes that can accurately hit a target out to 500 meters. On their side they carry pistols. On their front, over their body armor, they carry at least four to six extra magazines, loaded with 30 rounds each.

Their uniform would be mistaken for a soldier's if it weren't for their "Police" patches. They wear green tops, and pants fashioned after the U.S. Marine Corps MARPAT camouflage pattern. And they stand in front of a massive uparmored truck called a Bearcat, similar in look to a mine-resistant ambush protected vehicle, or as the troops who rode in them call it, the MRAP. [Business Insider]

https://theweek.com/article/index/2...-why-you-dont-give-military-equipment-to-cops
 
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If the police force was more representative of the population as a whole, they'd undoubtedly have less reason to protest. My God, this isn't rocket science we're talking about here. Cops generally have an 'us against them' mentality, and when the cops are white and 'them' are black, you have a recipe for stuff like this.

You honestly are attaching and "us against them mentality" to the cops, and not the Ferguson community?
 
Hopefully this though, finds bi-partisan support.


WASHINGTON — A Democratic congressman plans to introduce a bill to restrict a Defense Department program that provides machine guns and other surplus military equipment for free to local law enforcement agencies across the country.

Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Ga., said the legislation is in response to the death of an unarmed teenager who was shot by a police officer in a St. Louis suburb. The bill comes as members of Congress have called for the Justice Department to investigate the shooting of a black teen by a white police officer in Ferguson, Mo.


http://cjonline.com/news/2014-08-14...estrict-police-use-military-surplus-equipment
 
If the police force was more representative of the population as a whole, they'd undoubtedly have less reason to protest. My God, this isn't rocket science we're talking about here. Cops generally have an 'us against them' mentality, and when the cops are white and 'them' are black, you have a recipe for stuff like this.

Your argument would have more weight if these looters cared about such things. After all, during the LA Riots in 1992, the blacks didn't attack white communities (the cops as I recall were white), they instead attacked the Koreans and even attacked black store owners.
 
Hopefully this though, finds bi-partisan support.


WASHINGTON — A Democratic congressman plans to introduce a bill to restrict a Defense Department program that provides machine guns and other surplus military equipment for free to local law enforcement agencies across the country.

Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Ga., said the legislation is in response to the death of an unarmed teenager who was shot by a police officer in a St. Louis suburb. The bill comes as members of Congress have called for the Justice Department to investigate the shooting of a black teen by a white police officer in Ferguson, Mo.


Ferguson inspiring bill to restrict police use of military surplus equipment | CJOnline.com

So basically you're saying you want more situations like what happened with the Bank of America Robbery in LA 20 years ago then huh?
 
Far too few Americans recognise danger when we see it.

The fiasco in Ferguson shows why you don't give military equipment to cops!


First, let's see what they got. Here's a representative sample from Paul Szoldra, who served in Afghanistan himself:

In photos taken on Monday, we are shown a heavily armed SWAT team. They have short-barreled 5.56-mm rifles based on the military M4 carbine, with scopes that can accurately hit a target out to 500 meters. On their side they carry pistols. On their front, over their body armor, they carry at least four to six extra magazines, loaded with 30 rounds each.

Their uniform would be mistaken for a soldier's if it weren't for their "Police" patches. They wear green tops, and pants fashioned after the U.S. Marine Corps MARPAT camouflage pattern. And they stand in front of a massive uparmored truck called a Bearcat, similar in look to a mine-resistant ambush protected vehicle, or as the troops who rode in them call it, the MRAP. [Business Insider]

https://theweek.com/article/index/2...-why-you-dont-give-military-equipment-to-cops


do you want them to look like Barney Fife

of course they are armed....and wearing the best equipment they can get

if you were a white cop, looking at a large group of angry black people, wouldnt you want more than a tan shirt between you and them?

please try to look at it from their perspective as well as what the crowd may see
 
So basically you're saying you want more situations like what happened with the Bank of America Robbery in LA 20 years ago then huh?

FREEDOM, is risky, I'll take the risks while you capitulate.
 
If the police force was more representative of the population as a whole, they'd undoubtedly have less reason to protest. My God, this isn't rocket science we're talking about here. Cops generally have an 'us against them' mentality, and when the cops are white and 'them' are black, you have a recipe for stuff like this.

Your theory hasn't played out in the riots that have struck Southern California on numerous occasions. I can see how the "us versus them" issue could be dialed back a bit if the stereotypes pushed by the race baiters didn't have a visual connection.
 
do you want them to look like Barney Fife

of course they are armed....and wearing the best equipment they can get

if you were a white cop, looking at a large group of angry black people, wouldnt you want more than a tan shirt between you and them?

please try to look at it from their perspective as well as what the crowd may see

I don't respond to racists.
 
Your theory hasn't played out in the riots that have struck Southern California on numerous occasions. I can see how the "us versus them" issue could be dialed back a bit if the stereotypes pushed by the race baiters didn't have a visual connection.

53 cops, of which 50 are white and 3 are black. Policing a population that is 70% African American. Cops generally aren't the most understanding people in the world, and their normal reaction is to shoot first and ask questions later. When the cop is white and the victim black, you get a reaction from people who are convinced the system is rigged against them. That you can't see that makes your lean of 'slightly conservative' to be an understatement.
 
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