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American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq[W:1007]

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Are you suggesting Afghanistan was a bad idea? Did you forget 9/11? How about the USS Cole? Trade Center bombings in 93?

Al Queso needed to be dealt with. Iraq? You have an argument. Afghanistan...not really. You know...unless you believe it was an inside job.

Very good!!! Let's hope they will soon be Queso Suizo
 
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Are you suggesting Afghanistan was a bad idea? Did you forget 9/11? How about the USS Cole? Trade Center bombings in 93?

Al Queso needed to be dealt with. Iraq? You have an argument. Afghanistan...not really. You know...unless you believe it was an inside job.

Don't know about the "inside job" part, but certainly avoidable, and exploited for Bush's pre planed war with Iraq. As to A-Stan, again, the power vacuum created by Reagan's support of militant Islamists there, Mujahideen, gave rise to the Taliban that we fought latter. Also, the leader of al Qaeda (I liked the al Queso) and chief of the 9/11 attacks wrote an open letter articulating quite clear the REASONS for the attack. But nobody wants to hear it.

And it's not just me arguing that A-Stan was a mistake, have you seen the polls?
 
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He's YOUR president too! And he IS as incompetent as his predecessor.

"your" means I didn't vote for the guy and tried to make sure others understood his resume. Your opinion regarding Bush is misguided because people are always judged on performance and prior to the Democrats taking over Congress, Bush economy created 9 million jobs mostly after the Clinton recession and 9/11, he won the war in Iraq with the surge, had a democrat Congress more interested in regaining the WH than doing their job. You and others buy the headlines and ignore the non partisan results. You will point to 750,000 jobs lost for two month and ignore the 1 million discouraged workers most of 2010 that aren't counted in the official numbers. You claim Bush pre planned the war in Iraq ignoring the information I gave you a day or so ago on Clinton policies. Looks to me like you just want to whine and complain while ignoring results.
 
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"your" means I didn't vote for the guy and tried to make sure others understood his resume. Your opinion regarding Bush is misguided because people are always judged on performance and prior to the Democrats taking over Congress, Bush economy created 9 million jobs mostly after the Clinton recession and 9/11, he won the war in Iraq with the surge, had a democrat Congress more interested in regaining the WH than doing their job. You and others buy the headlines and ignore the non partisan results. You will point to 750,000 jobs lost for two month and ignore the 1 million discouraged workers most of 2010 that aren't counted in the official numbers. You claim Bush pre planned the war in Iraq ignoring the information I gave you a day or so ago on Clinton policies. Looks to me like you just want to whine and complain while ignoring results.

I haven't spoke much to Bush's domestic policy. But his foreign policy was no better then Obama's.
 
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I haven't spoke much to Bush's domestic policy. But his foreign policy was no better then Obama's.

Then you haven't been paying any attention at all. Name for me an Obama foreign policy success? we didn't lose an Ambassador under Bush and the Muslim Brotherhood was still in the shadows as was ISIS. America was feared by the world under Bush and has no respect under Obama
 
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I haven't spoke much to Bush's domestic policy. But his foreign policy was no better then Obama's.
What?? Bush was respected and able to gain Allies. Now traditional Allies exclude Obama from their conversations. He is the suject of international ridicule and you really don't know that?

Maybe you should read the foreign media more.
 
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What?? Bush was respected and able to gain Allies. Now traditional Allies exclude Obama from their conversations. He is the suject of international ridicule and you really don't know that?

Maybe you should read the foreign media more.

This is a sign of respect?

 
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Then you haven't been paying any attention at all. Name for me an Obama foreign policy success? we didn't lose an Ambassador under Bush and the Muslim Brotherhood was still in the shadows as was ISIS. America was feared by the world under Bush and has no respect under Obama

Aside from perhaps his joint deal with Russia on Syrian chemical weapons, there probably are none. Why in the world would I want to argue otherwise? We lost 8,000 (at least) American lives under Bush. 3,000 on 9/11 and 4,500 fighting a guy that had nothing to do with it. MB and ISIS are a direct result of the removal of Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and the ongoing attempt at Assad.

So both presidents own this crisis, but your partisan glasses won't allow you to see that.
 
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What?? Bush was respected and able to gain Allies. Now traditional Allies exclude Obama from their conversations. He is the suject of international ridicule and you really don't know that?

Maybe you should read the foreign media more.

At the beginning, when the US still had a little bit of respectability, but he too pissed off two big players, Russia and China.
 
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Aside from perhaps his joint deal with Russia on Syrian chemical weapons, there probably are none. Why in the world would I want to argue otherwise? We lost 8,000 (at least) American lives under Bush. 3,000 on 9/11 and 4,500 fighting a guy that had nothing to do with it. MB and ISIS are a direct result of the removal of Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and the ongoing attempt at Assad.

So both presidents own this crisis, but your partisan glasses won't allow you to see that.

What exactly would you have done in a free enterprise society to prevent 9/11 and what exactly did Clinton do when he got the December 1998 PDB? Inaction by this Administration created ISIS but people like you have no concept of being proactive instead of being reactive. Nothing I say is ever going to change your mind because you want to believe the bs you are being told.
 
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What exactly would you have done in a free enterprise society to prevent 9/11 and what exactly did Clinton do when he got the December PDB? Inaction by this Administration created ISIS but people like you have no concept of being proactive instead of being reactive. Nothing I say is ever going to change your mind because you want to believe the bs you are being told.

9/11 prevention is noted in the paper by the guy that committed the attack. But you don't care about that. Most belligerents don't. And Clinton warned Bush, but Bush was too busy planning his Iraq war strategy and waiting for a crisis to blame it on.
 
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At the beginning, when the US still had a little bit of respectability, but he too pissed off two big players, Russia and China.
I ersiously doubt that Russian would have invaded the Crimea during the Bush Presidency, nor would China be moving into neighboring territories or buzzing American warships without response. And of course Iraq was 'stable' when Bush left office
 
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Let\s make this clear. Do you believe that that was a foreign leader throwing the shoe?

No, but this next example is.

U.S. Evicted From Air Base In Uzbekistan

U.S. Evicted From Air Base In Uzbekistan

Uzbekistan formally evicted the United States yesterday from a military base that has served as a hub for combat and humanitarian missions to Afghanistan since shortly after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Pentagon and State Department officials said yesterday.

In a highly unusual move, the notice of eviction from Karshi-Khanabad air base, known as K2, was delivered by a courier from the Uzbek Foreign Ministry to the U.S. Embassy in Tashkent, said a senior U.S. administration official involved in Central Asia policy. The message did not give a reason. Uzbekistan will give the United States 180 days to move aircraft, personnel and equipment, U.S. officials said.

If Uzbekistan follows through, as Washington expects, the United States will face several logistical problems for its operations in Afghanistan. Scores of flights have used K2 monthly. It has been a landing base to transfer humanitarian goods that then are taken by road into northern Afghanistan, particularly to Mazar-e Sharif -- with no alternative for a region difficult to reach in the winter. K2 is also a refueling base with a runway long enough for large military aircraft. The alternative is much costlier midair refueling.

Not only did they kick us out, they let Russia in.
 
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9/11 prevention is noted in the paper by the guy that committed the attack. But you don't care about that. Most belligerents don't. And Clinton warned Bush, but Bush was too busy planning his Iraq war strategy and waiting for a crisis to blame it on.

This is not only speculation it is bizarre, uninformed, speculation.
 
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I ersiously doubt that Russian would have invaded the Crimea during the Bush Presidency, nor would China be moving into neighboring territories or buzzing American warships without response. And of course Iraq was 'stable' when Bush left office

But Russia did move into Georgia during bush's presidency

Russo-Georgian War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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No, but this next example is.
Then why did you post it?


Now you post a link which you haven't read all the way through in order to understand what was really going on at the time. Read it to the end and you'll see what I mean.

Do you sincerely believe that Barrack Obama could get the support of any countries of the world the way George Bush did in Iraq should he attempt something similar? If so, which country, or countries, do you think they might be?

Not only did they kick us out, they let Russia in.
Any idea why? Do you believe it was a lack of trust or confidence in George Bush?
 
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Then why did you post it?

U.S. Evicted From Air Base In Uzbekistan

Now you post a link which you haven't read all the way so you can understand what was really going on at the time. Read it to the end and you'll see what I mean.

Do you sincerely believe that Barrack Obama could get the support of any countries of the world the way George Bush dd in Iraq? If so, which country, or countries, do you think they might be?

Any idea why? Do you believe it was a lack of trust or confidence in George Bush?


It was because we criticised our "allies" poor handling of a certian event in andijan, where the government machine gunned several hundred protestors.

Andijan massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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I ersiously doubt that Russian would have invaded the Crimea during the Bush Presidency, nor would China be moving into neighboring territories or buzzing American warships without response. And of course Iraq was 'stable' when Bush left office

Iraq has never been stable. Something you're obviously blind to. Russia is right on Crimea, I haven't a problem with their response to US intrigue in Kiev, nor does China. And, Russia and China are closer than they've been in a long time. This is related to US policies during Bush and Obama presidencies. But I really don't care what a Canadian thinks about any US president, good or bad, sense you have no effect on it. Just another foreign Internet opinion.
 
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Iraq has never been stable. Something you're obviously blind to. Russia is right on Crimea, I haven't a problem with their response to US intrigue in Kiev, nor does China. And, Russia and China are closer than they've been in a long time. This is related to US policies during Bush and Obama presidencies. But I really don't care what a Canadian thinks about any US president, good or bad, sense you have no effect on it. Just another foreign Internet opinion.

International politics are being discussed, Okie, so we all have an interest in what goes on.
 
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International politics are being discussed, Okie, so we all have an interest in what goes on.

But not an effect.
 
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