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American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq[W:1007]

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Bush's surge did NOT win the war. There was a corrupt government, sectarian vioence and wide borders for terrorists to come through even when Bush left office. Face facts, it was a powder keg waiting to explode. Did Obama help it along? Yes. Would it have blown up without Obama? Yes, eventually.

You cannot have a corrupt government and sectarian violence and then claim victory. Not under Obama and not under Bush.

Talk about projection and opinions. Iraq had an election or did you forget. In 2008 the situation in Iraq was a lot better than you believe and better than it is today, but then again, you speculate and ignore. Your opinion is noted

Obama arrogance led to the loss of the peace and history is showing that
 
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Talk about projection and opinions. Iraq had an election or did you forget. In 2008 the situation in Iraq was a lot better than you believe and better than it is today, but then again, you speculate and ignore. Your opinion is noted

Your opinion is noted, but it is still an opinion. A corrupt government, with sectarian violence and open doors to terrorists is not a win.

Obama arrogance led to the loss of the peace and history is showing that

There's that Obama deranged Syndrome coming through on your part again. The Corrupt government and sectarian violence was there when Bush was leaving. Hardly peace.
 
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Your opinion is noted, but it is still an opinion. A corrupt government, with sectarian violence and open doors to terrorists is not a win.



There's that Obama deranged Syndrome coming through on your part again. The Corrupt government and sectarian violence was there when Bush was leaving. Hardly peace.

It was the elected government of Iraq and there was relative peace. The Status of Forces Agreement was signed in November 2008 and Bush left office in January 2009. Obama had three years to negotiate a stable peace and failed. Sorry but that is reality
 
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It was the elected government of Iraq and there was relative peace. The Status of Forces Agreement was signed in November 2008 and Bush left office in January 2009. Obama had three years to negotiate a stable peace and failed. Sorry but that is reality

Again your opinion noted, but nothing of fact just opinion. You call a corrupt government and sectarian violence in 2008 peace.
 
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Again your opinion noted, but nothing of fact just opinion. You call a corrupt government and sectarian violence in 2008 peace.

Yes, I would call this relative peace, notice what happened when our troops left? Obama's arrogance cost thousands of Iraqi lives. Doesn't matter to you though, does it?

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/

Notice the significant drop in 2008-2012
 
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Yes, I would call this relative peace, notice what happened when our troops left? Obama's arrogance cost thousands of Iraqi lives. Doesn't matter to you though, does it?

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/

Notice the significant drop in 2008-2012

Ah so you are one of the people that think we should have occupied Iraq like we did with Germany even though we weren't wanted AND there was a corrupt government and sectarian violence.

Your opinion again noted, but it is nothing but an opinion that is rejected.
 
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Ah so you are one of the people that think we should have occupied Iraq like we did with Germany even though we weren't wanted AND there was a corrupt government and sectarian violence.

Your opinion again noted, but it is nothing but an opinion that is rejected.

I have been told we weren't wanted because of Obama's arrogance. Obama hated the Iraq War and his arrogance showed in the negotiations after the status of forces agreement. Only in your world isn't that the case. Your opinion noted
 
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I have been told we weren't wanted because of Obama's arrogance. Obama hated the Iraq War and his arrogance showed in the negotiations after the status of forces agreement. Only in your world isn't that the case. Your opinion noted

Well you were told wrong. But then again opinions are all you have. You think Sectarian violence and a corrupt government equals peace. That's all anyone needs to know about you.
 
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Well you were told wrong. But then again opinions are all you have. You think Sectarian violence and a corrupt government equals peace. That's all anyone needs to know about you.

No, I think the withdrawal of ALL U.S. forces left a vacuum that ISIS is filling but then that really doesn't matter to you, does it. The numbers show what happened after the surge and then what is happening now after the withdrawal. Seems that actual data that you asked for confuses you.
 
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No, I think the withdrawal of ALL U.S. forces left a vacuum that ISIS is filling but then that really doesn't matter to you, does it. The numbers show what happened after the surge and then what is happening now after the withdrawal. Seems that actual data that you asked for confuses you.

Your opinion noted and rejected. The situation didn't change under Bush and you had a corrupt government and sectarian violence. You think that allowing the powder keg to blow under a different president makes it a success for Bush. Sorry it doesn't. Your boy left the vaccuum when he invaded Iraq in the first place. Nothing changed except you think a corrupt government and sectarian violence equals peace.
 
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Your opinion noted and rejected. The situation didn't change under Bush and you had a corrupt government and sectarian violence. You think that allowing the powder keg to blow under a different president makes it a success for Bush. Sorry it doesn't. Your boy left the vaccuum when he invaded Iraq in the first place. Nothing changed except you think a corrupt government and sectarian violence equals peace.

Keep ignoring that the Iraqis had a free election where millions voted. Whether or not you reject my post is irrelevant. I remember no post of yours that I didn't reject as well. There is a reason that ISIS is in Iraq today beheading an American Journalist and it has absolutely nothing to do with Bush
 
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Keep ignoring that the Iraqis had a free election where millions voted. Whether or not you reject my post is irrelevant. I remember no post of yours that I didn't reject as well. There is a reason that ISIS is in Iraq today beheading an American Journalist and it has absolutely nothing to do with Bush

Free elections doesn't mean anything with a corrupt government and sectarian violence. Of course you reject it because it goes against your ideology of Republican Good, Dem bad mentality. You think Bush did nothing wrong in his policies so you are the good little Republican supporting him and voted for him twice. You are Republican first and blame Dems for everything under the sun. You are part of a duopoly system that is corrupt and you support the corruption as long as your guys are in charge of the corruption such as Bush was. You ahve even excused the corruption by saying a Dem would be worse. No wonder you can't see corruption because you support corrupton.
 
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Free elections doesn't mean anything with a corrupt government and sectarian violence. Of course you reject it because it goes against your ideology of Republican Good, Dem bad mentality. You think Bush did nothing wrong in his policies so you are the good little Republican supporting him and voted for him twice. You are Republican first and blame Dems for everything under the sun. You are part of a duopoly system that is corrupt and you support the corruption as long as your guys are in charge of the corruption such as Bush was. You ahve even excused the corruption by saying a Dem would be worse. No wonder you can't see corruption because you support corrupton.

Free elections to you seem to mean electing who you think fits best with your ideology whatever that is. The reality is violence dropped after the surge and Iraq was relatively safe until Obama lost the gains our military made. That is reality. You choose to believe what you want to believe.
 
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Free elections to you seem to mean electing who you think fits best with your ideology whatever that is. The reality is violence dropped after the surge and Iraq was relatively safe until Obama lost the gains our military made. That is reality. You choose to believe what you want to believe.

No it is your opinion. There was fear from regular people on just walking down the street. You call that safe. That was the reality. You choose to ignore it because you are a Republican first. BOTH Obama and Bush have screwed up Iraq, but your partisanship only blames Obama.
 
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Free elections doesn't mean anything with a corrupt government and sectarian violence. Of course you reject it because it goes against your ideology of Republican Good, Dem bad mentality. You think Bush did nothing wrong in his policies so you are the good little Republican supporting him and voted for him twice. You are Republican first and blame Dems for everything under the sun. You are part of a duopoly system that is corrupt and you support the corruption as long as your guys are in charge of the corruption such as Bush was. You ahve even excused the corruption by saying a Dem would be worse. No wonder you can't see corruption because you support corrupton.

Free elections to you seem to mean electing who you think fits best with your ideology whatever that is. The reality is violence dropped after the surge and Iraq was relatively safe until Obama lost the gains our military made. That is reality. You choose to believe what you want to believe.
 
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No it is your opinion. There was fear from regular people on just walking down the street. You call that safe. That was the reality. You choose to ignore it because you are a Republican first. BOTH Obama and Bush have screwed up Iraq, but your partisanship only blames Obama.

Ever walked down some of the streets in Chicago or how about Watts. Want to walk down the streets of Ferguson, Missouri today? I point out Obama's failures and blaming Bush today serves no purpose nor does ignoring the actual results.
 
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Your opinion noted and rejected. The situation didn't change under Bush and you had a corrupt government and sectarian violence. You think that allowing the powder keg to blow under a different president makes it a success for Bush. Sorry it doesn't. Your boy left the vaccuum when he invaded Iraq in the first place. Nothing changed except you think a corrupt government and sectarian violence equals peace.
Iraq was certainly not completely stable and peace filled following the surge but it was definitely manageable. There were less deaths in Iraq caused by fundamentalist extremist terrorists during that timeframe than there were deaths in Chicago. And for you to deny the success of the surge and Bush's recovery of his immediate post war ops failings simply means you are calling both Obama and Biden liars.

Politicians and citizens alike share blame for all of this. When the US obligates boots on the ground (whoever the president is) then there should be a unified position from all of our politicians and citizens. You may petition for peace but should at all times support the Commander in Chief and troops that are put in harms way. Republicans did not do that when Clinton obligated troops in Bosnia. Democrats damn sure didnt do it during the 2nd Gulf war. And republicans have not been supportive of Obama when he has acted militarily (in a manner identical to what Bush had done in the past). It is purely repugnant. Knowing how easily our politicians will attack the 'other guys' for political gain gives our enemies a tremendous advantage. That CDB line that says "we may do a little bit of fighting among ourselves but you other guys best leave us alone" is true on so many levels.
 
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Ever walked down some of the streets in Chicago or how about Watts. Want to walk down the streets of Ferguson, Missouri today? I point out Obama's failures and blaming Bush today serves no purpose nor does ignoring the actual results.

Actually yes I have in Chicago. And I wasn't pulled aside and beaten because I followed a different religion than those politicians in power and it never get investigated. Have you? I also managed to walk across the street without getting suicide bombed.

Comparing Chicago to Iraq, what an idiotic comparison you just did. Sorry you are so blinded by Bush envy that you cannot even see his faults and instead put him on a pedastal of love and adoration. Seems you look at Bush more as a messiah.
 
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Actually yes I have in Chicago. And I wasn't pulled aside and beaten because I followed a different religion than those politicians in power and it never get investigated. Have you? I also managed to walk across the street without getting suicide bombed.

Comparing Chicago to Iraq, what an idiotic comparison you just did. Sorry you are so blinded by Bush envy that you cannot even see his faults and instead put him on a pedastal of love and adoration. Seems you look at Bush more as a messiah.

Actually you are ignoring reality and the death toll after the surge and the last few years before the U.S. pulled out. Iraq has 25 million people and the death toll under 5000 isn't much different than many of the U.S. Cities and that is the comparison. You say Bush didn't win the war? The results tell a different story.
 
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Actually you are ignoring reality and the death toll after the surge and the last few years before the U.S. pulled out. Iraq has 25 million people and the death toll under 5000 isn't much different than many of the U.S. Cities and that is the comparison. You say Bush didn't win the war? The results tell a different story.

No they don't, not with a corrupt government and sectarian violence. You're idea of success is corruption and death.
 
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No they don't, not with a corrupt government and sectarian violence. You're idea of success is corruption and death.

Compared to what we have now that was peace and the most peace in decades. Problem is people like you have no idea what it was like under Saddam Hussein. Neither does "your" President
 
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Compared to what we have now that was peace and the most peace in decades. Problem is people like you have no idea what it was like under Saddam Hussein. Neither does "your" President

Ah yes, the ole rhetoric "People like me" comment. Well people like you are nothing but Republican mouthpieces that don't live in reality. That's how I know you've lost, you just start repeating rhetoric. You're dismissed son, go sell your Bush good, Obama bad BS to someone who buys it. We all know you aren't a conservative but a good ole Republican.
 
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Ah yes, the ole rhetoric "People like me" comment. Well people like you are nothing but Republican mouthpieces that don't live in reality. That's how I know you've lost, you just start repeating rhetoric. You're dismissed son, go sell your Bush good, Obama bad BS to someone who buys it. We all know you aren't a conservative but a good ole Republican.

Don't have to do a thing, the results do it for me. There isn't one Obama economic result that is better than Bush's in spite of the media rhetoric. Alternative, Gore, Kerry, Obama? Hmmm, wonder who a conservative would support?
 
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Don't have to do a thing, the results do it for me. There isn't one Obama economic result that is better than Bush's in spite of the media rhetoric. Alternative, Gore, Kerry, Obama? Hmmm, wonder who a conservative would support?

See? You only prove me right, you start spewing stuff that has NOTHING to do with this topic at all. You are a good little Republican aren't you? Conservative? Not so much. You like YOUR corrupt guys in power and nothing more.
 
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See? You only prove me right, you start spewing stuff that has NOTHING to do with this topic at all. You are a good little Republican aren't you? Conservative? Not so much. You like YOUR corrupt guys in power and nothing more.

My statement is right on, I had a choice between Gore, Kerry, and then Obama. Who should a conservative have voted for that had a chance to make a difference? You are part of the problem whereas your principles trump logic and common sense. Now all you do is whine and complain, congratulations on your huge success.
 
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