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American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq[W:1007]

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ObamacareFail said:
What you are agreeing to without realizing it is that it's Obama's fault. Instead of supporting the Free Syria army, he supported the extremists.
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He realizes it hence the desperation of his justifications
 
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ObamacareFail said:
Considering that the 9/11/01 terrorist attacks killed more Americans then the attack on Pearl Harbor by imperial Japan, I think we can dismiss the size and population statistics.
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Ok... you live under that delusion then. Afghanistan didn't attack us. It was just a really remote place for some asshats to hide and make plans... asshats from other countries like Saudi Arabia. Imperial Japan was a whole nation we were at war with. Don't know how you can make any ties of similarity at all.
 
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Boo Radley said:
About what? I can change facts. What Reagan did is historical record.
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Yes, it's Reagan's fault all right. But let's not forget Dwight Eisenhower and Jack Kennedy. Or LBJ.
 
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Montecresto said:
Do you ever consider militant Islamists to have legitimate complaints?
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Is it your opinion that ISIS are just 'militant' Islamists? Would that be anything like 'militant' feminists?

What are their complaints? Not as defined by you (it will be America's fault) but as defined by them.
 
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Montecresto said:
Funny the way this guy can be quoted to prove a point and dismissed when problematic. And unfortunate that you're unaware of the issues that pissed him off and were reasons for his attack. Not much hope in avoiding future attacks when one refuses to acknowledge the stated reasons for being attacked.
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What about Timothy McVeigh? What about the issues that pissed him off? Do you really care?

No, of course not. We cannot use terrorists as a guide to foreign or domestic policies and it's amazing that anyone would think otherwise.
 
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Montecresto said:
You still fail to comprehend this basic fact. US support for militants in Syria has given rise to groups such as IS that are now committing these acts. The time for handwringing was when the US was supporting militant Islamists in Egypt, Libya, and Syria.
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Does your understanding of Islam extend no further than the last couple of decades or so?
 
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Montecresto said:
Funny the way this guy can be quoted to prove a point and dismissed when problematic. And unfortunate that you're unaware of the issues that pissed him off and were reasons for his attack. Not much hope in avoiding future attacks when one refuses to acknowledge the stated reasons for being attacked.
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There are Muslims who now claim that Spain is theirs. Which US President do you blame for this? Islamic State: "We Will Take Spain Back"
 
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Montecresto said:
Do you ever consider militant Islamists to have legitimate complaints?
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If "militant Islamists" is a euphemism for "terrorists," NO.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
Yeah and what do you think their chances of success are?
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That wasn't the point. The point was:

Originally Posted by Montecresto
Do you ever consider militant Islamists to have legitimate complaints?
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Grant said:
Who's going to stop them?
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Granting them legitimacy sure would....
 
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Bodhisattva said:
Granting them legitimacy sure would....
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They can declare themselves legitimate and go from there. Islamists have been called "Nazis in a hurry", but they can also be very patient.

They also have a profound commitment to their cause while the democracies are still, largely initiated by doltish leftists of course, self-censoring themselves about the possible perils of Islamophobia. Islamists have no such problem with words, or defining their intentions.
 
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Grant said:
They can declare themselves legitimate and go from there. Islamists have been called "Nazis in a hurry", but they can also be very patient.

They also have a profound commitment to their cause while the democracies are still, largely initiated by doltish leftists of course, self-censoring themselves about the possible perils of Islamophobia. Islamists have no such problem with words, or defining their intentions.
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Hell man... I was joking. I should have stuck with "Appeasement is the best way to deal with them". ;)
 
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Bodhisattva said:
Hell man... I was joking. I should have stuck with "Appeasement is the best way to deal with them". ;)
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I thought you might be but felt like saying what I did anyway!:)
 
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nota bene said:
If "militant Islamists" is a euphemism for "terrorists," NO.
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Well, the definition of terrorists fits some operations conducted by the US, Israel, and others. It's just that a successful western propaganda campaign has people thinking of various stereotypes.
 
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Grant said:
What about Timothy McVeigh? What about the issues that pissed him off? Do you really care?

No, of course not. We cannot use terrorists as a guide to foreign or domestic policies and it's amazing that anyone would think otherwise.
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Actually, Timothy McVeigh did have legitimate grievances. But as with some of the protesters in Ferguson, they don't condone criminal behaviour. OBL, presented clear, concise and articulate complaints against the US, to ignore them caused 9/11, continued ignorance will cause more 9/11's. since they are happening and are being attempted on American soil, I don't give a crap what a Canadian living in CR thinks about this. I want more sound minded policies in the ME.
 
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Montecresto said:
Well, the definition of terrorists fits some operations conducted by the US, Israel, and others. It's just that a successful western propaganda campaign has people thinking of various stereotypes.
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Sounds like a conspiracy.
 
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ObamacareFail said:
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No....I do not. I do not accept any justification for terrorism.
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What a foolish statement. That didn't address my question at all, and you managed to bag a couple likes on it, too funny. Care to answer the question. Let me phrase it for you differently. Could people in the Middle East not have legitimate grievances against the US that would cause them to plant an IED along side a road and detonate it as a US military column passes by?
 
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Grant said:
Does your understanding of Islam extend no further than the last couple of decades or so?
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The part of Muslim history that concerns me is about the last century of US involvement in the ME. As an American, I don't appreciate my country spending my tax dollars on policies that create enemies there, who may and have wished to come to America and blow me up! And as a Canadian living in Costa Rica, I don't give a **** what you say or think and you have no influence on our policies.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
US support for democracy and stability do not give "rise to such groups as ISIS"... these terror groups exist on their own accord and to not blame them 100% for their deeds and to cast blame towards somebody else is to tacitly condone their terror.
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They bear sole blame for any criminal acts they commit. The US government bears responsibility for advancing policies that benefit, strengthen and embolden them.
 
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Grant said:
There are Muslims who now claim that Spain is theirs. Which US President do you blame for this? Islamic State: "We Will Take Spain Back"
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The Us bears some responsibility for any destructive behaviour they are capable of committing, as having been an enabler in part.
 
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US Conservative said:
Sounds like a conspiracy.
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Any attacker that terrorises the attacked, are definitively terrorists. To think a terrorist can't be in a uniform, or even "official" is ridiculous. You are one of those that legitimises terroristic attacks in Japan, you've been indoctrinated by the us/them doctrine that always means us=good while them= bad.
 
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