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American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq[W:1007]

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No he didn't. He trained the next generation. He stopped nothing.

That is your opinion, but Bush left office in January 2009 and it is 2014 today. Interesting, what exactly did Obama do to secure the peace or relative peace that was in existence when Bush left office? He has been as successful in foreign policy as he has been with domestic policy, totally incompetent which appeals to people who don't understand leadership skills.
 
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Who appeased and armed terrorist. He sure was.

That is your opinion, the difference it enemy of our enemies is our friend. You don't understand the concept.
 
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That is your opinion, the difference it enemy of our enemies is our friend. You don't understand the concept.

No, that's a fact. He did appease and he did arm. It's not an opinion.
 
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No, that's a fact. He did appease and he did arm. It's not an opinion.

How exactly does that impact what is going on in Iraq today? What exactly did Obama do to secure the relative peace that was in the region when Bush left office?
 
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How exactly does that impact what is going on in Iraq today? What exactly did Obama do to secure the relative peace that was in the region when Bush left office?

Didn't say it did. But you call an appeaser who gave weapons to terrorist a leader. I just want you to understand your standards here.
 
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Didn't say it did. But you call an appeaser who gave weapons to terrorist a leader. I just want you to understand your standards here.

You don't even understand your own standards so doubt you would understand mine nor the bigger picture.
 
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Didn't say it did. But you call an appeaser who gave weapons to terrorist a leader. I just want you to understand your standards here.

This is who you want to negotiate with? Tell me these people are U.S. plants and have damaged Islam and the Islamic state? You really are very naive and have no business dealing with the world problems. You judge everyone by your own standards and that is dangerous.

US conducts new airstrikes as ISIS kills dozens of Yazidis in Iraq town, officials say | Fox News
 
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No, he really didn't.

The difference with Bergdahl, as Obama argues, is that he wasn’t really a hostage grabbed by terrorists. He pretty neatly fit the classic definition of a prisoner of war. He had just left a military outpost in an obvious war zone while (presumably) wearing his uniform. History is loaded with examples of nations—including America—making deals to free their soldiers.

And however nasty the Taliban may be, it’s not really a “terrorist” enemy as we commonly understand the word.

Bowe Bergdahl: Obama Didn’t Negotiate With Taliban Terrorists - TIME

Obama didn't really negotiate but he made a deal to have a prisoner released for five terrorists who weren't really terrorists and besides countries do it all the time anyway. I can see you've given this a lot of thought.
 
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about darned time we use our air power. Russian pilots were seen,as well as Iranian. a month or so ago. This goes beyond any "Iraqi gov't".
Glad Maliki is finally out..wonder what next set of dysfunctional characters takes over now?
 
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about darned time we use our air power. Russian pilots were seen,as well as Iranian. a month or so ago. This goes beyond any "Iraqi gov't".
Glad Maliki is finally out..wonder what next set of dysfunctional characters takes over now?

Sigh, we'll find out soon enough. Meanwhile, I feel sorry for the ordinary people in Iraq who are at the whims of...whomever. Many years ago now I had a conversation with a Lebanese Christian who talked as if this were a commonplace (of course, it was to her) of driving to her university classes and facing shots and IEDs. We didn't have this acronym, but this is what she described. Most of us, and thank heavens, have no idea of what it's like to live this way.
 
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Sigh, we'll find out soon enough. Meanwhile, I feel sorry for the ordinary people in Iraq who are at the whims of...whomever. Many years ago now I had a conversation with a Lebanese Christian who talked as if this were a commonplace (of course, it was to her) of driving to her university classes and facing shots and IEDs. We didn't have this acronym, but this is what she described. Most of us, and thank heavens, have no idea of what it's like to live this way.
yes it's not good, nor is Syria -which if possible is more of a wreck.

competing factions (rebels/jihadi/the Regime), just goes on and on ;taking and re-taking towns. Eventually this ( like all wars) has to end.
Then the horror of what to do about this reconstruction beings
 
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Who appeased and armed terrorist. He sure was.

In fact, the current crisis that has the ME in flames is the direct result of decades of US support of militant Islamic groups, sometimes covertly, sometimes overtly, sometimes both.
 
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This is who you want to negotiate with? Tell me these people are U.S. plants and have damaged Islam and the Islamic state? You really are very naive and have no business dealing with the world problems. You judge everyone by your own standards and that is dangerous.

US conducts new airstrikes as ISIS kills dozens of Yazidis in Iraq town, officials say | Fox News

This has nothing to do with you calling the appeaser who gave weapons to terrorist a leader. if you wanted to know this all you'd have to is read above. I suggest you're dodging here.
 
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In fact, the current crisis that has the ME in flames is the direct result of decades of US support of militant Islamic groups, sometimes covertly, sometimes overtly, sometimes both.
Militant Islamic groups have been active since 700 AD, long before America came along, and we see this in that although they were a bit late arriving after the other major religions, they control almost all the Middle East.

They probably will control it one day , with Israel wiped out as well, and that seems to meet with the approval of many, especially among the Leftists. They will be moving into Spain soon, nothing to do with America, and other parts of Europe as well.

One positive consequence of all this murderous Muslim activity is that we don't have to put up with the tired term "Islamophobia" anymore.
 
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Obama didn't really negotiate but he made a deal to have a prisoner released for five terrorists who weren't really terrorists and besides countries do it all the time anyway. I can see you've given this a lot of thought.

As has been done throughout history. And I've given it more thought than you it would seem.
 
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You really have your mind made up, don't you??

About what? I can change facts. What Reagan did is historical record.
 
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In fact, the current crisis that has the ME in flames is the direct result of decades of US support of militant Islamic groups, sometimes covertly, sometimes overtly, sometimes both.

I quite agree.
 
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This has nothing to do with you calling the appeaser who gave weapons to terrorist a leader. if you wanted to know this all you'd have to is read above. I suggest you're dodging here.

You can suggest all you want but all that does is show your partisan opinion which the facts just don't support. Who exactly are we to negotiate with? Wonder how those dozens of people murdered in a northern Iraqi city would vote if they were still alive? Wonder exactly what convert or die really means in the liberal world?
 
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And I'm going to assume you're full of beans.

Only when adding baked beans to an occasional barbecue on a weekend.
 
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There is a facade of democracy. It's a Shiite government, try again.

No...it's an actual democracy loosely based on a European style parliamentary system. If you don't think that is better then the brutal totalitarian dictatorship of Saddam Hussein....then I cannot help you.
 
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No, it wouldn't. Do you think we've Conquered terrorism?

Once again, we can agree or disagree on whether we should or should not have invaded Iraq, however Afghanistan is a no-brainer. It was being used as a base to commit mass terrorism on American soil. And no....I do not think we have conquered terrorism and I never expected that the mere act of invading Afghanistan was going to end terrorism. However it did cut Al Queda down several pegs and it and other actions have at least so far prevented another 9/11/01 level attack on US soil. I would like to think you can work that out.

Anyway, the majority of Americans consider it to have been a mistake,

I do not base my stances on opinion polls. They are snap shots in time. The vast majority of Americans did support the invasion to begin with. It is understandable that when wars drag on as Afghanistan has that they do lose public support. That does not mean that the war did not have initial support.

and once the last troops are gone from there, it will go the way of Iraq as well.

That depends on how the Iraq government acts from here on out. If they remain sectarian, it will not end well. If they work to include all sects, then it certainly can end well. What I find pathetic is that there are so many progressives like yourself who fervently wish for Iraq to tank.
 
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You deny that he told everybody why he attacked us on 9/11, silly.

You still do not quite get it. OBL was an insane bloody terrorist. I know what he told the world. I just do not put any stock in the words of such a demented man. I'm sorry that you do.
 
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