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American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq[W:1007]

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So now you're reduced to playing the "left" card?
Any more of Nixon's deck left in your arsenal for the evening.

Such as GOOD LUCK Mr. President ?

A good president doesn't need luck or an army of apologists. :screwy
 
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The fact that the pullout was planned by the previous president and Malaki wanted us out escapes you? But I get it. You just want to bame Obama for something.

While it is true there was a prior agreement in place, it is also true that Maliki's government was open to a commitment of troops. This was something though that Obama clearly didn't want, thus some of the blame lies with him. Ultimately I blame the Iraqis and not Bush or Obama, but if we are going to be fair, he did play a part in it.

IS would have found no quarter in Iraq were Saddam still there, stop pounding these lies.

Are you saying there never would of been and ISIS if Saddam was still in power? Are you also saying then that there never would of been an Arab Spring?
 
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A good president doesn't need luck or an army of apologists. :screwy

I would argue that most world leaders need an element of luck.
 
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I've not much use for Barrack Obama but I certainly support him and those Americans putting themselves in harm's way to help these people. It might be a good time to show some support for the USA now rather than quibbling over the politics of it all.

I just hope Obama hits them really hard and leaves no doubt in anyone's mind that America is not to be messed with.
 
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Aren't you positive.
realistic is more like it.

or do you not remember what it took to oust the taliban from a similar scenerio.
ousting these guys is going to be harder as they seem to be well armed and well organized.
 
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Apparently the confusion came from the Kurd's reporting American fighters were hitting ISIS around Irbil, when they were Iraqi F-16's that killed two ISIS commanders. An easy mistake, since we supplied the jets to Iraq.

I guess the tail emblems weren't close enough to be seen, but the type of aircraft was identifiable. :lol:
 
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Oh dear lord, I just pm'd the Pentagon to ignore that request.

Children are being beheaded, but of course Democrats don't give a rip. Let's just smoke weed and talk about peace.
 
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Children are being beheaded, but of course Democrats don't give a rip. Let's just smoke weed and talk about peace.

Yea, all us democrats are identical in every way. :lamo

We all love to smoke weed while watching children being beheaded. :roll: :3oops:
 
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From my perspective, this is somewhat confusing and another situation where US foreign policy at this point in time seems to be a jumble of incongruent reactionary steps without a big picture goal in mind.

How is it rational to provide military assistance to a nation, Iraq, that you have no treaty obligations to and who refused reasonable attempts to have your troops remain in country when they were already there and providing a level of deterrent/protection, and yet another country, Ukraine, with whom you actually have a treaty obligation to provide protection to, does not receive American military support?
 
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Yea, all us democrats are identical in every way. :lamo

We all love to smoke weed while watching children being beheaded. :roll: :3oops:

Some of you prefer to smoke weed while watching the Kardashians, inducing about the same level of bile for average folks.
 
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The fact that the pullout was planned by the previous president and Malaki wanted us out escapes you? But I get it. You just want to bame Obama for something.

The pull out by Bush was planned to have a force left behind and keep airfields occupied, but no Obama pulled out everything. And now he has to gone back in with ground troops and now with planes from a ship. Of course Obama calls our ground troops "advisers."
 
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While it is true there was a prior agreement in place, it is also true that Maliki's government was open to a commitment of troops. This was something though that Obama clearly didn't want, thus some of the blame lies with him. Ultimately I blame the Iraqis and not Bush or Obama, but if we are going to be fair, he did play a part in it.

Bull****.

Nouri al-Maliki News and Video - FOX News Topics - FOXNews.com
 
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If. I hope we do, I really, really do. Some of my friends from Erbil have been emailing me for the past few weeks and the past few days have been so frustrating and sad.

That ISIS group is out of control and I believe we have shown enough restraint in Syria and the ME. If we don't make a decisive military move now, we'll have a much harder time later rooting them out and they will eventually advance on southern Iraq and possibly Jordan. We need to bring the "Boom, Shack-aLacka Lacka, Boom!"


From my perspective, this is somewhat confusing and another situation where US foreign policy at this point in time seems to be a jumble of incongruent reactionary steps without a big picture goal in mind.

How is it rational to provide military assistance to a nation, Iraq, that you have no treaty obligations to and who refused reasonable attempts to have your troops remain in country when they were already there and providing a level of deterrent/protection, and yet another country, Ukraine, with whom you actually have a treaty obligation to provide protection to, does not receive American military support?

Those are not comparable situations. Hundreds of thousands of people aren't about to be killed in a genocide. Screw Maliki, he's the a-hole that started this whole mess, persecuting the Sunni's. The only big picture we need at the moment is to hit those vicious ISIS forces, until they're back to throwing stones. They're going to eventually become a bigger instigator of war crimes than Iran, AQ and the Taliban combined.
 
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The pull out by Bush was planned to have a force left behind and keep airfields occupied, but no Obama pulled out everything. And now he has to gone back in with ground troops and now with planes from a ship. Of course Obama calls our ground troops "advisers."

The Iraqis wanted us out while Al-Maliki a ****e was paling around with Iran. What part of that don't you people get?

My nephew who was wounded twice in Iraq said there wasn't a day he didn't hear, "We want you the invaders out!"

**** attempted to spell out Maliki's tribal affilation. Sensor won't allow it as it too closely resembles a four letter word.
 
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The Iraqis wanted us out while Al-Maliki a ****e was paling around with Iran. What part of that don't you people get?

My nephew who was wounded twice in Iraq said there wasn't a day he didn't hear, "We want you the invaders out!"

And now we're back in there with ground troops and war planes, why because Iraq wants us back??
 
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Those are not comparable situations. Hundreds of thousands of people aren't about to be killed in a genocide. Screw Maliki, he's the a-hole that started this whole mess, persecuting the Sunni's. The only big picture we need at the moment is to hit those vicious ISIS forces, until they're back to throwing stones. They're going to eventually become a bigger instigator of war crimes than Iran, AQ and the Taliban combined.

They're comparable as it relates to principle and big-picture policy. What real benefit does America gain by being drawn back into a ME war zone? Perhaps, if Maliki had been removed/replaced and the call had come from new "management", there might be a point - without that, there is no benefit to the US.
 
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They're comparable as it relates to principle and big-picture policy. What real benefit does America gain by being drawn back into a ME war zone? Perhaps, if Maliki had been removed/replaced and the call had come from new "management", there might be a point - without that, there is no benefit to the US.

If a situation's dynamics change, then so do the principles of big picture policies. If America allows the ME to become much destabilized from ISIS, it could cause a multinational conflict in the area that disrupts the oil flow and resulting markets. And at worse, draw Russia into the area with more armed support leading to a US showdown.
 
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Some of you prefer to smoke weed while watching the Kardashians, inducing about the same level of bile for average folks.

I've never watched the Kardashians, you'll have to fill me in.
 
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Yea, all us democrats are identical in every way. :lamo

We all love to smoke weed while watching children being beheaded. :roll: :3oops:

That'd require doing two things at the same time. Impossible for you.
 
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No IS would be doing a thing in Iraq were Saddam still there, thanks a lot Bush.

No, the terrorist wouldn't be in Iraq if not for the politicized move to pull all US troops.

Thank you Obama
 
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I read a report that two F/A-18's from the carrier Bush used laser-guided 500-lb. bombs against one or more artillery pieces firing on Peshmerga forces near Irbil.

If true, that emphasizes just how much the U.S. could do to tip the scales against the jihadists with very little risk to our forces. The Peshmerga are pretty good fighters, and they could probably deal with any comparable number of jihadists carrying small arms. But with rifles, a scattering of machine guns, and a couple old tanks, the Kurds can't hold the line against artillery, even if it's only firing from a couple miles away.

Suppose, though, that the U.S. puts a drone overhead, or has a few special forces helping the Peshmerga with equipment that can get an exact fix on artillery as soon as it fires. In open, treeless country like that, those guns now become defenseless targets that aircraft can easily knock out.

In the same way, the jihadists would have to travel fifteen miles or so from where they were yesterday to reach Irbil. Any attack heavy enough to have a reasonable chance of taking even part of the city would have to include vehicles traveling on roads, without cover and with no significant anti-aircraft defense. U.S. aircraft, whether jets from carriers, attack helicopters operating from a secure Kurdish base, or even armed drones, could quickly locate a force like that and destroy it in the open.
 
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No, the terrorist wouldn't be in Iraq if not for the politicized move to pull all US troops.

Thank you Obama

U.S.

You should be thanking Bush, since he was the one that made the deal to withdraw from Iraq...
 
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Sadly this will only help ISIS in their propaganda... the crusaders are coming.. and that will make Muslims rally behind them. It should have been the Saudis or Iranians that should have done the bombing.. or Turkey.
 
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