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U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

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I think we ARE going to see strikes against ISIS in support of the Kurds soon.
Tens of thousands Christians and other religious minorities are in a dire situation as well
In today's press conference, Obama seems to be giving in.
I think it's pretty Dam urgent we act to help them.
I strongly advocate this, tho not any strikes helping Maliki's mini-Iraq in the South.


U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq
ISIS claims control of strategic Mosul Dam, Yazidi community under threat
Thomson Reuters Posted: Aug 07, 2014 8:42 AM ET Last Updated: Aug 07, 2014 2:52 PM ET
U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq - World - CBC News

U.S. President Barack Obama was said to be considering airstrikes and emergency relief airdrops to help 40,000 religious minorities in Iraq who are trapped on a mountaintop after threats by Islamic militants, according to a report Thursday in the New York Times.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest later said any U.S. military action would be "very limited in scope" and tied to Iraqi political reforms, adding: "There are no American military solutions to the problems in Iraq."

Islamist militants surged across northern Iraq towards the capital of the Kurdish region on Thursday, sending tens of thousands of Christians fleeing for their lives, in an offensive that sparked talk of Western military action.

Reuters photographs showed what appeared to be Islamic State fighters controlling a checkpoint at the border area of the Kurdish semi-autonomous region, little over 30 minutes' drive from Arbil, a city of 1.5 million that is headquarters to the Kurdish regional government and of many businesses.
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another "limited" military action?

Either ISIS presents a clear and present danger to the US, or it doesn't.

If it does, then let's declare war on them and wipe them from the face of the Earth, you know, like we did with the Nazis.

If it doesn't, then let's not be waging any war.

War is not really peace.
 
another "limited" military action?
Either ISIS presents a clear and present danger to the US, or it doesn't.
If it does, then let's declare war on them and wipe them from the face of the Earth, you know, like we did with the Nazis.
If it doesn't, then let's not be waging any war.
War is not really peace.
I don't agree, and your choice is a false one.

I want to help the Kurds, Christians/etc in the North from imminent slaughter, but let Maliki/min-Iran bear the brunt/treasure/lives in the South.
If ISIS should become a wider threat, then/only then do we need to consider wider action.
 
Leave Iraq alone.

Let them clean up their own mess.
 
I don't agree, and your choice is a false one.

I want to help the Kurds, Christians/etc in the North from imminent slaughter, but let Maliki/min-Iran bear the brunt/treasure/lives in the South.
If ISIS should become a wider threat, then/only then do we need to consider wider action.

We can help the Kurds by sending them military hardware, but if we're going to get involved any further, then we need to do it all the way. Surely, we must have learned that limited warfare is not a good thing. That was the lesson of Vietnam, of Iraq. Little "military actions" have unintended consequences.
 
A mess we helped to create.

All the more reason to leave them alone...it's their country and their business.

Offer humanitarian aid but otherwise...butt out.
 
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I don't agree, and your choice is a false one.

I want to help the Kurds, Christians/etc in the North from imminent slaughter, but let Maliki/min-Iran bear the brunt/treasure/lives in the South.
If ISIS should become a wider threat, then/only then do we need to consider wider action.

Then get your damn boots and rifle and head east. Americans are sick of shedding blood and treasure in the ME!
 
We can help the Kurds by sending them military hardware, but if we're going to get involved any further, then we need to do it all the way. Surely, we must have learned that limited warfare is not a good thing. That was the lesson of Vietnam, of Iraq. Little "military actions" have unintended consequences.

That was not a lesson of Iraq, ever heard of the surge?

Our issue with Iraq was having way too many objectives, if we want to go in again just have one objective and one only, eliminate ISIS.

No nation-building

No democracy-bull****

No toppling governments

Eliminate ISIS, make a clear threat if things like this happen again, and leave.
 
We can help the Kurds by sending them military hardware, but if we're going to get involved any further, then we need to do it all the way. Surely, we must have learned that limited warfare is not a good thing. That was the lesson of Vietnam, of Iraq. Little "military actions" have unintended consequences.

I agree, however, the cost of civilian lives to "do it all the way" IF that's even possible, is too much. We're no better then they if we think we can kill civilians to save civilians.
 
We broke Iraq, so we have some responsibility to rout ISIS.

America screwed up another country so that gives America the right to screw it up some more?

I totally disagree.

If a mechanic wrecks your engine during an oil change, your first thought is not to take it back to the same mechanic for a tire rotation...you go somewhere else or do it yourself.


Believe whatever you want...America should butt out.


Good day.
 
America screwed up another country so that gives America the right to screw it up some more.

I totally disagree.

If a mechanic wrecks your engine during an oil change, your first thought is not to take it back to the same mechanic for a tire rotation...you go somewhere else or do it yourself.


Believe whatever you want...America should butt out.


Good day.

And let a religious minority get exterminated? No
 
I agree, however, the cost of civilian lives to "do it all the way" IF that's even possible, is too much. We're no better then they if we think we can kill civilians to save civilians.

We killed civilians while wiping out the Nazis. If we're not willing to risk killing civilians, then we shouldn't go to war.
 
That was not a lesson of Iraq, ever heard of the surge?

Our issue with Iraq was having way too many objectives, if we want to go in again just have one objective and one only, eliminate ISIS.

No nation-building

No democracy-bull****

No toppling governments

Eliminate ISIS, make a clear threat if things like this happen again, and leave.

The US has opened a can of worms, a mess that threatens the entire Middle East of drowning in this sectarian violence, and, its still isn't clear whether this is by design, or shear incompetence, for years now.
 
I think we ARE going to see strikes against ISIS in support of the Kurds soon.
Tens of thousands Christians and other religious minorities are in a dire situation as well
In today's press conference, Obama seems to be giving in.
I think it's pretty Dam urgent we act to help them.
I strongly advocate this, tho not any strikes helping Maliki's mini-Iraq in the South.


U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq
ISIS claims control of strategic Mosul Dam, Yazidi community under threat
Thomson Reuters Posted: Aug 07, 2014 8:42 AM ET Last Updated: Aug 07, 2014 2:52 PM ET
U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq - World - CBC News

Aerial assistance of the Kurds and buying their oil should be alright, but to go any further would not be a really good idea.
 
The US has opened a can of worms, a mess that threatens the entire Middle East of drowning in this sectarian violence, and, its still isn't clear whether this is by design, or shear incompetence, for years now.

Incompetence, outside of oil the ME is just a sandy rock that means nothing to us, and I don't think ISIS wants to give us oil, and if they do, it's to get more money and to raise their power, which of course can then bite us in the ass.
 
If it does, then let's declare war on them and wipe them from the face of the Earth, you know, like we did with the Nazis.


There are plenty still left. Hell they are on this board.
 
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