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America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

Either you just make this stuff up as you go along or reality escapes YOU. Where do you get the notion that West Virginia is a blue state? West Virgina was won by Romney in 2012; McCain in 2008; Bush won it in 2004 and 2000. One has to go back to 1996 to see a Democratic win it in a presidential election. In other words, no Democratic Presidential candidate won West Virginia in 16 years. To assert that Obama lost it in 2012 due to "his attacks on the coal industry," is mere projection.

You are amazing, simply a liberal who cannot admit when wrong

Joe Manchin and Jay Rockefeller, both Democrats, hold West Virginia's U.S. Senate seats.[3] One of three seats in the United States House of Representatives is occupied by Democrat Nick Rahall;[4] the other two are taken by Republicans David McKinley and Shelley Moore Capito. Democrats also maintain strong positions in the state legislature and most local and state offices. West Virginia also has a very strong tradition of union membership. While Democratic politicians hold most statewide offices and control both houses of the state legislature, Republicans have made major gains at the state and federal level in recent years.

What is it about liberalism that creates people like you? I guess 25% support for Obama in a state with Two Democrat Senators and a Democrat State legislature is to be ignored?
 
You are amazing, simply a liberal who cannot admit when wrong
Let's recap:

You claimed that Obama lost W. Virginia because of his policy against coal. I pointed out that no Democratic presidential candidate has won W. Virginia since Clinton. That's an indisputable fact. Then, faced with that indisputable fact, you act as if I was the one that was wrong.

What is it about the conservative fantasy world that allows them to think they are correct when what they said is counter to actual facts and what you believe bears little resemblance to reality?

What is it about liberalism that creates people like you? I guess 25% support for Obama in a state with Two Democrat Senators and a Democrat State legislature is to be ignored?
Obama got only 35.5% of the vote in W. Virginia in 2012, which emphasizes that it is a red state.
United States presidential election in West Virginia, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Moreover, people win Senate seats for many reasons. Massachusetts elected Republican Scott Brown. That doesn't make Massachusetts a red state no more than two Senators makes WV a blue state. You already pointed out that two of the three House seats are held by Republicans.
 
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You are amazing, simply a liberal who cannot admit when wrong

Joe Manchin and Jay Rockefeller, both Democrats, hold West Virginia's U.S. Senate seats.[3] One of three seats in the United States House of Representatives is occupied by Democrat Nick Rahall;[4] the other two are taken by Republicans David McKinley and Shelley Moore Capito. Democrats also maintain strong positions in the state legislature and most local and state offices. West Virginia also has a very strong tradition of union membership. While Democratic politicians hold most statewide offices and control both houses of the state legislature, Republicans have made major gains at the state and federal level in recent years.
What is it about liberalism that creates people like you? I guess 25% support for Obama in a state with Two Democrat Senators and a Democrat State legislature is to be ignored?

Picky picky
 
Let's recap:

You claimed that Obama lost W. Virginia because of his policy against coal. I pointed out that no Democratic presidential candidate has won W. Virginia since Clinton. That's an indisputable fact. Then, faced with that indisputable fact, you act as if I was the one that was wrong.

What is it about the conservative fantasy world that allows them to think they are correct when what they said is counter to actual facts and what you believe bears little resemblance to reality?

No, I didn't say Obama lost W. Va. because of his attack on Coal, I said he had a 25% rating in a blue state unless of course you don't call a state with two Democrat Senators and a Democrat Legislature blue? Please post where I said Obama lost West Virginia?

Look, nothing is going to change your mind. You are certainly someone who believes in Obamanomics. The majority in this country get it, you probably never will. I feel sorry for people like you, See, I can be liberal, feeling instead of thinking
 
Picky picky

Exactly, I guess having two Democrat Senators and Democrats holding most statewide offices including the state legislature make W. Va a red state

I also recognized the strong tradition of union membership making this of course a Red State because we all know how much unions love the GOP
 
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Not if it's Bush, you should know better by now.

I can't wait for 2017 when the Republican President starts doing things and it's all "But..but, Obama!" Basically because I want to start throwing back the "He's not President anymore." Though I suspect that some posters will magically disappear in 2017.
You are going to have to wait way longer than 2017. There is little chance the GOP will see the whitehouse probably until at least 2020 or 2024 at the earliest.
 
Exactly, I guess having two Democrat Senators and Democrats holding most statewide offices including the state legislature make W. Va a red state

I also recognized the strong tradition of union membership making this of course a Red State because we all know how much unions love the GOP
heh heh ... but I think maybe the UMWofA rank and file may have had their eyes opened.
 
There is another option, I voted third party. But third party candidate do not stand a chance as the election laws are written, by Republicans and democrats by the way, as a mutual protection act for the major parties. Then both parties have sold their heart and soul to special interests, corporations, wall street firms, lobbyist, huge money donors and that is where their loyalties lie. Third party candidates get none of these tens of millions or like in 2012, hundreds of millions.

It is like when one goes to the polls these days, you end up voting for which company will have the most political influence over our elected officials, Goldman Sachs or Bank of America. But then these firms and corporations aren't dumb either, quite a lot end up donating their tens of millions to both parties, that way no matter who wins the election, the winner owes them big time.

Cool.

Of course, the same people that vote for these idiots they put into power will say that you are wasting your vote.

I say they are slowly destroying America with theirs.

Crap in, crap out.
 
Cool.

Of course, the same people that vote for these idiots they put into power will say that you are wasting your vote.

I say they are slowly destroying America with theirs.

Crap in, crap out.

That is definitely the refrain the two major parties spout. A vote for a third party candidate is a wasted vote because he can't win. But I looked at voting for either of the two major parties is a wasted vote, it is a vote that says the voter is satisfied with business as usual. The voter is perfectly happy that the candidate and party they are voting for has been bought lock, stock and barrel by special interest, lobbyists, Wall Street, Corporations, multimillionaires and multibillionaires. They are have no problem with elected officials putting political party way above America and her people. They love serving a political parties agenda even though their agendas are destroying the fabric of what make America great.

They buy into the rhetoric spouted by one or the other of the major parties, but none ever look to see how they govern and whom they take care. We do have the best government money can buy and we the people, have exactly the government we deserve. If we the voter buy into the propaganda the two major parties spout, we richly deserve all the consequences of their rule.
 
Either you just make this stuff up as you go along or reality escapes YOU. Where do you get the notion that West Virginia is a blue state? West Virgina was won by Romney in 2012; McCain in 2008; Bush won it in 2004 and 2000. One has to go back to 1996 to see a Democratic win it in a presidential election. In other words, no Democratic Presidential candidate won West Virginia in 16 years. To assert that Obama lost it in 2012 due to "his attacks on the coal industry," is mere projection.

Don't blame you for running, you do that a lot, but The Red State of West Virginia has had a Democratic Governor since 2001, has two Democratic Senators, has a Legislature in total control of the Democrats, and has a tradition of being a strong union state. Now of course all those really indicate a red state in the liberal world you live in, right?
 
Don't blame you for running, you do that a lot, but The Red State of West Virginia has had a Democratic Governor since 2001, has two Democratic Senators, has a Legislature in total control of the Democrats, and has a tradition of being a strong union state. Now of course all those really indicate a red state in the liberal world you live in, right?


I would label them a battleground state...One of their democratic senators is no Obama fan.
 
I would label them a battleground state...One of their democratic senators is no Obama fan.

Obama has written off West Virginia because of his stance on coal and his 25% approval rating. One would think that a state with a Democratic Governor and two Democratic Senators along with a large union base would certainly be an Obama state in the future. Obama lost W. Va by almost 180,000 votes and has lost significant support since the 2012 elections. Wonder what the people of this Democratic State see in Obama that his supporters don't? Hmmm
 
You are going to have to wait way longer than 2017. There is little chance the GOP will see the whitehouse probably until at least 2020 or 2024 at the earliest.

I think there is very little chance that the next president isn't a Republican. Just look at history.
 
I think there is very little chance that the next president isn't a Republican. Just look at history.

History doesn't tell the whole story. You combine a really weak field of potential Republican candidates with an electoral map that leaves little opportunity for Republican missteps and it pretty much guarantees that a Republican will not win in 2016. This is true even IF Hilary doesn't run....although a weaker Democrat candidate will give the GOP a better opportunity. I just don't see it happening. Who in the current lot of front runners for the GOP do you think is electable?
 
History doesn't tell the whole story. You combine a really weak field of potential Republican candidates with an electoral map that leaves little opportunity for Republican missteps and it pretty much guarantees that a Republican will not win in 2016. This is true even IF Hilary doesn't run....although a weaker Democrat candidate will give the GOP a better opportunity. I just don't see it happening. Who in the current lot of front runners for the GOP do you think is electable?
Depends on who in the GOP field can get the liberal media to not lie about them to help their democrat masters.
 
Depends on who in the GOP field can get the liberal media to not lie about them to help their democrat masters.

The biggest problem is going to be not eating your own the way they did in 2012. Every primary there was another candidate whose main qualification was being "not Romney."

But I understand that you need to blame everybody else. It is funny to me that the same people who talk about "personal responsibility" turn around and blame everybody but themselves.
 
Depends on who in the GOP field can get the liberal media to not lie about them to help their democrat masters.

LOL.....sounds like you have been listening to Sarah Palin for too long. The reality is the Democrats don't need the so called "liberal media" to help them against the current sorry lot of GOP contenders.
 
LOL.....sounds like you have been listening to Sarah Palin for too long. The reality is the Democrats don't need the so called "liberal media" to help them against the current sorry lot of GOP contenders.

Not when they have the American Idol voter who bases their vote on appearance and rhetoric. Low information voters never pay any attention to the facts and data. Just think the Socialist Republic of California taking over America. What a great country this will be then.

Sorry lot of GOP Contenders? Whoever takes over for the current incompetent in the WH is going to have one helluva mess to clean up and all liberals will do is kick the can down the road, drive up debt by buying votes, have low economic growth but still give you the social results you believe are the responsibility of the Federal Govt and not the states
 
The biggest problem is going to be not eating your own the way they did in 2012. Every primary there was another candidate whose main qualification was being "not Romney."

But I understand that you need to blame everybody else. It is funny to me that the same people who talk about "personal responsibility" turn around and blame everybody but themselves.
I would agree to a point rocket. The 2012 primary season was too long, and there were too many debates. This time should be better.

As for eating their own demo's better worry about that themselves this coming Presidential season.
 
LOL.....sounds like you have been listening to Sarah Palin for too long. The reality is the Democrats don't need the so called "liberal media" to help them against the current sorry lot of GOP contenders.
You're delusional if you think that another lib has a chance in 2016. Check the polls today. Nearly every category has 2/3 of the country disapproving of the mess liberal policies have created.
 
As for eating their own demo's better worry about that themselves this coming Presidential season.

You're right, which is part of why I think the GOP wins.
 
You're delusional if you think that another lib has a chance in 2016. Check the polls today. Nearly every category has 2/3 of the country disapproving of the mess liberal policies have created.

We shall see. Perhaps if the GOP had a strong candidate to put up. There isn't one in the current field. Too bad for you.
 
We shall see. Perhaps if the GOP had a strong candidate to put up. There isn't one in the current field. Too bad for you.

Your judgment of a strong candidate is Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton? People with such low standards shouldn't be making statements like yours
 
So you're not sure that's true, hmmmmm....Well then, that should settle it...Since all reality is the same to you, then it should be enough for you to just hold a press conference and inform America that all of the charges of racism for opposing Obama, is just all in everyone's head. Do you know how ridiculous you sound twisting into knots excusing deplorable behavior from demo's? :roll:

If there is a charge of racism it would not be in opposing Obama. It would be in the how. The over exaggerations, the mindless belief in him not being a citizen, being a communist, Muslim, terrorist, fascist, socialist, heathen antichrist. It's a little much even for American politics.

So, slow down, back up, and address the actual argument. Which is that racism is still with us, and that we should still address it where merited.
 
If there is a charge of racism it would not be in opposing Obama. It would be in the how. The over exaggerations, the mindless belief in him not being a citizen, being a communist, Muslim, terrorist, fascist, socialist, heathen antichrist. It's a little much even for American politics.

So, slow down, back up, and address the actual argument. Which is that racism is still with us, and that we should still address it where merited.

How does one actually believe that the charge of racism in a policy disagreement is legitimate?

Which part of objecting and disagreeing with policy is racists in nature? I'm not sure that it can be.
 
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