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Ebola fears hit close to home

You have a link for that project?

My brother-in-law works in water projects around the world and he's never heard of such a project. Africa has been found to have huge underground water reserves which is why 100% of African water projects tend to use bore-holes and drilling down to these resevoirs.

The only dew collection project I know of is the one in Chungongo - Chile where reasons for failure included lack of maintenance. South America does not have huge underground water reserves.



Your premise is based on misinformation or confusing aid on one continent to another ad as I pointed out - WHO is involved as are American CDC which has prevented Ebola becoming worse for 40 years. That's why you do aid.

Look, people like me who've gone out to help don't do it for the praise of people like you who will never see any aid or financial return in helping the poorest of the poor. We don't do it to make you feel better or to make sense to you. It's a calling and people just respond.


Why are we having this discussion ?

Because things have changed after 40 years of WHO and the American CDC intervention.

Which means these people have NEVER changed their behavior.

Right ? Or is all of this being blown out of proportion ?
 
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Why are we having this discussion ?

Because things have changed after 40 years of WHO and the American CDC intervention.

Which means these people have NEVER changed their behavior.

Right ? Or is all of this being blown out of proportion ?

Please add up all the number of deaths from Ebola over 40 years - try this CDC page and tell me why you're so scared. You're damn right this is being blown out of proportion.

As for "behaviour" - you're simply trying to pass blame onto Africans. You seem to have an irrational response to eating fruit-bats however fruit bats are a greater vector than just human consumption.

WHO page - "Pig farms in Africa can play a role in the amplification of infection because of the presence of fruit bats on these farms."

The simple fact is body fluid secretions can be transmitted through all sorts of ways - the Ebola virus family also exists in China where transmission through pig flesh is proven by WHO. Stop trying to blame Africans for eating fruit bats despite your advice - there are a variety of ways the diseased fluids transmit to humans.
 
Darn it, of all the places he could have gone for a conference!
 
Please add up all the number of deaths from Ebola over 40 years - try this CDC page and tell me why you're so scared. You're damn right this is being blown out of proportion.

As for "behaviour" - you're simply trying to pass blame onto Africans. You seem to have an irrational response to eating fruit-bats however fruit bats are a greater vector than just human consumption.

WHO page - "Pig farms in Africa can play a role in the amplification of infection because of the presence of fruit bats on these farms."

The simple fact is body fluid secretions can be transmitted through all sorts of ways - the Ebola virus family also exists in China where transmission through pig flesh is proven by WHO. Stop trying to blame Africans for eating fruit bats despite your advice - there are a variety of ways the diseased fluids transmit to humans.


What's wrong with you ?? OF-COURSE Africans are to blame ! They need to CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR, their actions after they've been warned.

" Fruit bats are among the most notorious for spreading disease, according to the FAO. The U.N. organization said West Africa’s current epidemic, which has so far killed at least 604 people in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone, was probably first transferred from an infected animal, and then began spreading between people. Ebola is transferred by direct contact with the blood or body of infected people or animals. "

UN warns West Africans to stay away from fruit bats as Ebola spreads | Al Jazeera America

Fruit bats are the presumptive reservoir hosts of Ebola viruses (EBOVs) (genus Ebolavirus, family Filoviridae). When transmitted to humans and nonhuman primates, EBOVs can cause hemorrhagic fevers with high case-fatality rates. In 2008, we detected Zaire EBOV (ZEBOV) antibodies in a single migratory fruit bat (Eidolon helvum) from a roost in Accra, Ghana (1). This bat is common in sub-Saharan Africa and lives in large colonies, often in cities. The flight of an individual E. helvum bat during migration has been recorded as >2,500 km (2).

You're worried about hurting people's feelings ? Your'e worried about accountability ? What about the thousands of Dead Africans ??

And DO let me know when the next Ebola outbreak occurs in " China "
 
What's wrong with you ?? OF-COURSE Africans are to blame ! They need to CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR, their actions after they've been warned.

" Fruit bats are among the most notorious for spreading disease, according to the FAO. The U.N. organization said West Africa’s current epidemic, which has so far killed at least 604 people in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone, was probably first transferred from an infected animal, and then began spreading between people. Ebola is transferred by direct contact with the blood or body of infected people or animals. "

UN warns West Africans to stay away from fruit bats as Ebola spreads | Al Jazeera America

Fruit bats are the presumptive reservoir hosts of Ebola viruses (EBOVs) (genus Ebolavirus, family Filoviridae). When transmitted to humans and nonhuman primates, EBOVs can cause hemorrhagic fevers with high case-fatality rates. In 2008, we detected Zaire EBOV (ZEBOV) antibodies in a single migratory fruit bat (Eidolon helvum) from a roost in Accra, Ghana (1). This bat is common in sub-Saharan Africa and lives in large colonies, often in cities. The flight of an individual E. helvum bat during migration has been recorded as >2,500 km (2).

You're worried about hurting people's feelings ? Your'e worried about accountability ? What about the thousands of Dead Africans ??

How many thousands in 40 years?

And DO let me know when the next Ebola outbreak occurs in " China "

You are obviously poorly informed. If you weren't you wouldn't be panicking over a virus which has only killed less than 3000 people in 40 years and secondly you would have heard of "RESTON Ebolavirus" and it hit the US in 1989 after previously only being reported in China and the Philipinnes.

Panicking again?
 
How many thousands in 40 years?



You are obviously poorly informed. If you weren't you wouldn't be panicking over a virus which has only killed less than 3000 people in 40 years and secondly you would have heard of "RESTON Ebolavirus" and it hit the US in 1989 after previously only being reported in China and the Philipinnes.

Panicking again?

Yea right, this outbreak is exactly like all the others......not.

And the actions of the African people have nothing to do with this and all the other outbreaks ....not.

What's more important ?

" Protecting " the African people by claiming inacuractely that they're NOT responsible for their own actions or trying to stop a deadly virus by being honest about how it spreads ?
 
Yea right, this outbreak is exactly like all the others......not.

And the actions of the African people have nothing to do with this and all the other outbreaks ....not.

What's more important ?

" Protecting " the African people by claiming inacuractely that they're NOT responsible for their own actions or trying to stop a deadly virus by being honest about how it spreads ?

Of course Africans are responsible for how Ebola spreads - if WHO could get people to stop washing the bodies of their dead then the risk of contact with contaminated fluids would be minimised; if African people would use sanitary hygiene and proper cooking methods when eating bushmeat then risks of the virus passing from animal to human would be pretty low.

A good washscrub is pretty effective at reducing the risk of contamination when handling Ebola contaminated meat - it's not like the Salmonella virus which is better to destroy through simple stopping washing and thorough cooking.

The problem with your approach is just a wholesale generalisation and that doesn't work.
 
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