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Troops Move on Crash Site in Ukraine, Foiling Deal

Say apdst...

I have a bridge I'll sell you for cheap...

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We could have video of the launch as it happened and the usual suspects on here would still buy into the Russia Today lines about it being fabricated. What matters is that thankfully this time most people don't seem to be falling for it and the blame is squarely where it belongs: on the heads of the separatists and their Russian patrons. Personally I'm not overly disturbed by the lack of access to the crash site--any sign that the Ukrainian military is moving forward against the rebels is a positive sign.
 
We could have video of the launch as it happened and the usual suspects on here would still buy into the Russia Today lines about it being fabricated. What matters is that thankfully this time most people don't seem to be falling for it and the blame is squarely where it belongs: on the heads of the separatists and their Russian patrons. Personally I'm not overly disturbed by the lack of access to the crash site--any sign that the Ukrainian military is moving forward against the rebels is a positive sign.

Suspects huh? The US State Department has been ****ing this up from the beginning. Funny how Obama never tells the truth, until its something the hawks WANT to hear, then its gospel, lol.
 
Suspects huh? The US State Department has been ****ing this up from the beginning. Funny how Obama never tells the truth, until its something the hawks WANT to hear, then its gospel, lol.
Agreed.

How can anyone believe a word that comes from O-Bomb-a's mouth?
 
We could have video of the launch as it happened and the usual suspects on here would still buy into the Russia Today lines about it being fabricated. What matters is that thankfully this time most people don't seem to be falling for it and the blame is squarely where it belongs: on the heads of the separatists and their Russian patrons. Personally I'm not overly disturbed by the lack of access to the crash site--any sign that the Ukrainian military is moving forward against the rebels is a positive sign.


We could have, but we don't. That, because the Ukrainian government is following the lead of the US--make claims that are "certain", but withhold evidence that shows the certainty.

In Poker, that would be called "bluffing" :mrgreen:
 
This fighting makes me incredibly angry. There is no reason the Ukrainians have to move in on the crash site with the Dutch military police officers/Australian police officers/ experts on recovery of bodies and property. They should have done it when the bodies have been removed.
 
This fighting makes me incredibly angry. There is no reason the Ukrainians have to move in on the crash site with the Dutch military police officers/Australian police officers/ experts on recovery of bodies and property. They should have done it when the bodies have been removed.

Suspicious I'd say! Maybe the crash site debris, along with the evidence, will get destroyed in the cross fighting.
 
This fighting makes me incredibly angry. There is no reason the Ukrainians have to move in on the crash site with the Dutch military police officers/Australian police officers/ experts on recovery of bodies and property. They should have done it when the bodies have been removed.

This offensive by the Ukrainians certifies that they want control of the debris field to cover up their crime. I've not once read a eyewitness account of the incident that described a rocket exhaust trail leading to the downed aircraft and that would have been more obvious than any other evidence. Maybe the separatists shot the plane down and maybe not.
 
This offensive by the Ukrainians certifies that they want control of the debris field to cover up their crime. I've not once read a eyewitness account of the incident that described a rocket exhaust trail leading to the downed aircraft and that would have been more obvious than any other evidence. Maybe the separatists shot the plane down and maybe not.

Maybe it was a missile, and maybe it was not.

When the news media and the government have an aviation accident such as this all figured out before a day has gone by, something is very fishy....
 
Maybe it was a missile, and maybe it was not.

When the news media and the government have an aviation accident such as this all figured out before a day has gone by, something is very fishy....

Very convenient how that this event has pressured the EU to go along with sanctions that may be self inflicting wounds as well as hurting Russia.
 
Don't be vindictive. dude.

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Vindictive? Your quoted words vindictive? Odd.
Not my intent.
Your words are silly. Just thought I would show that.
If your words are relevant, they are just as relevant here as they are in any topic.
Or maybe they really aren't. :shrug:
 
Vindictive? Your quoted words vindictive? Odd.
Not my intent.
Your words are silly. Just thought I would show that.
If your words are relevant, they are just as relevant here as they are in any topic.
Or maybe they really aren't. :shrug:

Just a little friendly ribbing.

However, Zimmerman/Martin is over. For goodness sake, Put it to bed.

(although if you believe Martin was the aggressor, I agree)
 
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However, Zimmerman/Martin is over. For goodness sake, Put it to bed.
Not when another tries to pass on false info. It ain't gonna happen.
 
Not when another tries to pass on false info. It ain't gonna happen.

I found myself getting way too passionate about this story during the trial. Just trying to save you an ulcer. ;)
 
I found myself getting way too passionate about this story during the trial. Just trying to save you an ulcer. ;)
Different folks are interested in different things.
 
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