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POLL: one-third say Impeach Obama

Kobie said:
/sigh

That's not the difference between Democrats and Republicans; that's the difference between politics 40 years ago and politics today. But god forbid anyone poke holes in your "Republicans always good, Democrats always bad" nonsense.
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Politicians were held to a higher standard forty years ago than today.

Today we have a President who refuses to uphold the oath of office he took, is aiding and abetting an invasion from the South and is about to piss on the Constitution again by using an Executive Order to legalize 5 to 6 million illegal alien criminals who are all ready residing with in the USA.

What's so hard for Obama to comprehend ? Congress writes the laws of the land not the President and the Constitution says that the President is required to enforce those laws no matter if he likes them or not.
 
Kobie said:
/sigh

That's not the difference between Democrats and Republicans; that's the difference between politics 40 years ago and politics today. But god forbid anyone poke holes in your "Republicans always good, Democrats always bad" nonsense.
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There is so much of that going on. Republican always thinking the Democrats are bad and Democrats thinking the Republicans are bad. Perhaps even evil instead of bad. This is why when I do my research and numbers game, I tend to discount Republicans and Democrats and look at independents. They are not happy with President Obama only giving him a 37% job approval rating. But Bush the second was at 36% among independents at this juncture of his presidency. But whether one approves or disapproves of the job a president is doing doesn't mean impeachment is warranted.

Actually the Democrats did introduce impeachment articles to the judiciary committee during Bush the second tenure. But that was a far as it got. So far during Obama, that hasn't happened. Yet.

Efforts to impeach George W. Bush - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
iguanaman said:
I don't call failing to govern "holding their ground" . Did you know that 1/4 of our embassies have no ambassador because the House will not confirm them? What possible reason can there be for that?
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The House? Try the Senate.

Failing to govern is continuously pointing across the aisle to blame the other party. That's one thing Obama's good at, the blame game. But hey, he doesn't need consensus. He has a pen and he knows how to use it.

WASHINGTON — The United States does not have ambassadors in more than a quarter of the countries in the world, hindering U.S. efforts on issues ranging from counterterrorism work in Africa to the flood of children fleeing Central America for the U.S. border.

The vacancies are driven by the Senate, where President Barack Obama’s nominations for ambassadors are caught in a partisan feud between the Democrats and the Republicans, and by complaints that Obama is nominating an unusually large percentage of political supporters rather than career diplomats.

The president also tapped Colleen Bell, a producer of the soap opera “The Bold and the Beautiful” who contributed or raised $800,000 for the Obama campaign. She had a less-than stellar appearance before the Foreign Relations Committee on her nomination to be ambassador to Hungary.

“That affects the morale of the professional diplomatic corps,” said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., a Foreign Relations Committee member. “The percentage of politicals is way too high, way too high.”

Read more here: WASHINGTON: Quarter of world has no U.S. ambassador | Congress | McClatchy DC
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How apropos, a soap opera producer chosen by Obama to become an ambassador.

But its the Republicans fault.... in the House. :lamo
 
Obama is a second away from official "lame duck" status. He has lost any heart to actually push forward any new policy. Why not just wait it out. Certainly not worth the effort. Let history be his judge.
 
JoeTrumps said:
Obama is a second away from official "lame duck" status. He has lost any heart to actually push forward any new policy. Why not just wait it out. Certainly not worth the effort. Let history be his judge.
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i would lose heart too if i had to try and negotatie with members of this current congress.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1063570435 said:
The House? Try the Senate.

Failing to govern is continuously pointing across the aisle to blame the other party. That's one thing Obama's good at, the blame game. But hey, he doesn't need consensus. He has a pen and he knows how to use it.



How apropos, a soap opera producer chosen by Obama to become an ambassador.

But its the Republicans fault.... in the House. :lamo
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I wonder if they are as happy to be taking a month-long recess in August as we are to see all of them gone? And if Obama is also on vacation, that's icing on the cake! :thumbs:

Greetings, Mo. :2wave:
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
i would lose heart too if i had to try and negotatie with members of this current congress.
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agreed. Obama should have done more "reaching across the aisle" instead of his method of "give them the middle finger"
 
ObamacareFail said:
The truth is that there is no right wing movement to impeach Obama...for two reasons. One, even if the house of reps impeaches Obama as they did with Clinton, they know that it will go nowhere in the Senate....and two...they know that if Obama were impeached and kicked out of office...Joe Biden would become president at least until 2017. The left is merely pushing impeachment fears because they know the democrats in congress are in for a very bad day in the midterm elections in November and they feel that they only way they can inspire the left to come out and vote in large numbers is to make it about fears of impeachment.
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Just the opposite. I have heard many say that they want the GOP to win the Senate this fall and go absolutely bat guano crazy with a radical right wing legislative program so Obama can veto it all and be a hero to the middle class setting up a great DEM year in 2016.

The beautiful thing about that is that you can tell right wingers you want them to do that and why you want them to do that and they will still do it anyways because they are so ideologically driven.
 
polgara said:
I wonder if they are as happy to be taking a month-long recess in August as we are to see all of them gone? And if Obama is also on vacation, that's icing on the cake! :thumbs:

Greetings, Mo. :2wave:
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Greetings Ms. P! :2wave:

I hope they all get to sign up for Obamacare during their vacation! Enjoy!
 
haymarket said:
Poll: One-third say impeach Obama - Jonathan Topaz - POLITICO.com

The ever increasing radicalization of the right becomes more and more obvious every day and now this poll clearly provides more evidence of the divide in America between the right and everyone else.

65% of Americans reject the political tactic of impeachment but a full one-third of the citizenry are more that willing to go down that road. Nearly one in five simply want to use it to advance their own political objections and need no actual crimes for the process.
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Ahh, haymarket logic. Things are as they have been for the past two presidents but that's a sign of the "ever increasing radicalization if the right"...you know, if by "increasing" you mean "staying roughly the same"

"Anti-impeachment sentiment is roughly where it was for past presidents - 67% opposed Bill Clinton's impeachment in September 1998, and 69% opposed impeaching George W. Bush when a few Democrats began talking about it in 2006," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.
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source
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1063570435 said:
The House? Try the Senate.

Failing to govern is continuously pointing across the aisle to blame the other party. That's one thing Obama's good at, the blame game. But hey, he doesn't need consensus. He has a pen and he knows how to use it.



How apropos, a soap opera producer chosen by Obama to become an ambassador.

But its the Republicans fault.... in the House. :lamo
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So tell me WHO is holding up all those ambassador appointments if it is not the Republicans? And since when is it a sin to appoint friends and like minded people to Ambassador as long as they are qualified? Bush appointed his college roommate to head FEMA and no one batted an eye. This President has been treated differently from the start. It sure seems like the Republicans have forgotten that they have a responsibility to put aside partisanship and continue the affairs of State. In other words they have forgotten that they were elected to govern not tear down the Govt.
 
iguanaman said:
So tell me WHO is holding up all those ambassador appointments if it is not the Republicans? And since when is it a sin to appoint friends and like minded people to Ambassador as long as they are qualified? Bush appointed his college roommate to head FEMA and no one batted an eye. This President has been treated differently from the start. It sure seems like the Republicans have forgotten that they have a responsibility to put aside partisanship and continue the affairs of State. In other words they have forgotten that they were elected to govern not tear down the Govt.
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You are aware the majority of Obama's appointments were incompetent at the positions they were appointed to.

The entire Obama administration is incompetent.

Why were they approved by Congress ? If they didn't approve of Obama's nominations they would have been called racist.

Look at who the prior Secretary of Homeland Security was and todays Sec. of DHS. :lamo "The borders are secured" :2rofll:

Do we need to bring up the IRS ? :thinking

Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State and John Kerry. No world leaders listened to these two clowns. Just look at the Middle East today.

Eric Holder as the Attorney General. :eek: Holder has a racial chip on his shoulder the size of a water melon.

Obama's national security adviser is Susan Rice. :screwy
 




It aint just conservatives that are done with him...
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1063568425 said:
Based on your words it appears you didn't even read the article. Here's some help.

It's not just the right, 35% of the "radicalized" independents polled think Obama should be impeached as well. That's more than the total percent of those who would seek impeachment.

The reason? Obama thinks its OK to pick up his pen rather than seek consensus, because after all, that's how this whole system of government works. You can just have what you want and then blame others when you don't get it, unless of course you're a democrat.

Instead of capitulating like the dems did with Iraq, and then whining about their own actions, the Republicans are holding their ground.

Try looking at the whole picture. I know its difficult, but try. People are unhappy with Obama, period.



Fox News Poll: Voters say Obama exceeded authority, but oppose impeachment | Fox News



Anyway, there's no need to impeach Obama, voters everywhere can be heard at the polls in November.



Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports™
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People are even more unhappy with congress and that's who they'll be voting for in November.
 
Bob N said:
Well the President was selected by the people through the voting process; now if that President is being considered to be doing unethical things shouldn't the people use their representatives to speak for them to get him removed?

In other words why use a judge to make a legal decision to determine that? Where's the system of checks and balances for that judge?
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No. I do not think that is so. Unethical is a very personal thing and way too inexact to use for political vengeance.
 
Kobie said:
/sigh

That's not the difference between Democrats and Republicans; that's the difference between politics 40 years ago and politics today. But god forbid anyone poke holes in your "Republicans always good, Democrats always bad" nonsense.
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I think both parties are bad these days. It's merely that the republicans are less bad then the democrats. These days the democrats are positively evil.
 
Perotista said:
There is so much of that going on. Republican always thinking the Democrats are bad and Democrats thinking the Republicans are bad. Perhaps even evil instead of bad. This is why when I do my research and numbers game, I tend to discount Republicans and Democrats and look at independents. They are not happy with President Obama only giving him a 37% job approval rating. But Bush the second was at 36% among independents at this juncture of his presidency. But whether one approves or disapproves of the job a president is doing doesn't mean impeachment is warranted.

Actually the Democrats did introduce impeachment articles to the judiciary committee during Bush the second tenure. But that was a far as it got. So far during Obama, that hasn't happened. Yet.

Efforts to impeach George W. Bush - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Yes.....as I recall, democrats started threatening to impeach Bush the moment he was re-elected.
 
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POLL: Two-Thirds say Do Not Impeach Obama
 
a351 said:
Although those numbers are rather high, they're not entirely out of step with what voters have said about previous administrations. From your link:



More than anything, this demonstrates a general lack of political savvy among the general populace.
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Let's go back to the CNN poll that Politico is linking:

There's an obvious partisan divide, with 57% of Republicans but only 35% of independents and 13% of Democrats backing a move to impeach Obama.

"Anti-impeachment sentiment is roughly where it was for past presidents - 67% opposed Bill Clinton's impeachment in September 1998, and 69% opposed impeaching George W. Bush when a few Democrats began talking about it in 2006," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.
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haymarket said:
Just the opposite. I have heard many say that they want the GOP to win the Senate this fall and go absolutely bat guano crazy with a radical right wing legislative program so Obama can veto it all and be a hero to the middle class setting up a great DEM year in 2016.

The beautiful thing about that is that you can tell right wingers you want them to do that and why you want them to do that and they will still do it anyways because they are so ideologically driven.
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Just because the democrats went absolutely bat guano crazy and dusted off every extreme left wing proposal on the shelf and passed it or attempted to pass it when they gained control of the white house and both houses of congress in 2008 does not mean that the republicans will do the same. You have to keep in mind that whether or not the republicans take control of the Senate in the coming midterms, the majority of republicans in office will still be RINOS (republicans in name only). It is laughable to suggest that the republicans will end up with radical right wing majorities. However they may mitigate or otherwise undo the unconstitutional healthcare bill known as "obamacare" . Though I do appreciate that so many radical leftwingers now seem to be conceding that the coming midterms will be a disaster for the democrat party and are now just thinking about 2016. Carry on.
 
haymarket said:
You are disputing that the far right is radical?? :doh:shock::roll:
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Can you even identify any republican in office who is a member of the far right? We are not in the Smoot Hawley era.
 
iguanaman said:
So tell me WHO is holding up all those ambassador appointments if it is not the Republicans? And since when is it a sin to appoint friends and like minded people to Ambassador as long as they are qualified? Bush appointed his college roommate to head FEMA and no one batted an eye. This President has been treated differently from the start. It sure seems like the Republicans have forgotten that they have a responsibility to put aside partisanship and continue the affairs of State. In other words they have forgotten that they were elected to govern not tear down the Govt.
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You have a very short memory. The democrats did the same only worse against Bush appointees.
 
Paxaeon said:
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POLL: Two-Thirds say Do Not Impeach Obama
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As a conservative, I say "Do not impeach Obama". Let him suffer out the remainder of his second term....especially if the republicans gain control of the senate. Even Obama has admitted that with the GOP controlling both house of congress, his last two years in office would be torture.
 
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