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US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’ [W:326]

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WASHINGTON — Like the rest of the world, the U.S. government appeared to have been taken aback last month when Mosul, Iraq’s second largest city, fell to an offensive by jihadis of the Islamic State that triggered the collapse of five Iraqi army divisions and carried the extremists to the threshold of Baghdad.A review of the record shows, however, that the Obama administration wasn’t surprised at all.
In congressional testimony as far back as November, U.S. diplomats and intelligence officials made clear that the United States had been closely tracking the al Qaida spinoff since 2012, when it enlarged its operations from Iraq to civil war-torn Syria, seized an oil-rich province there and signed up thousands of foreign fighters who’d infiltrated Syria through NATO ally Turkey.

Read more here: WASHINGTON: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’ | World | Merced Sun-Star

WASHINGTON: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’ | World | Merced Sun-Star

When the next attack happens here, and Innocent Americans die, that is squarely on Obama....
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

They've been closely watching them, what does that have to do with anything?

Obama's mind was probably made up in 2012. He will ever escalate anything in Iraq.

Him saying he is "considering" options is just to appease the warmongering Republicans like McCain.
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

When the next attack happens here, and Innocent Americans die, that is squarely on Obama....

and Bush ....... and Carter.........
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

When the next attack happens here, and Innocent Americans die, that is squarely on Obama....

Actually it's squarely on decades of US policy to support militant Islamic groups in the ME. Nothing new here.
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

They've been closely watching them, what does that have to do with anything?

Obama's mind was probably made up in 2012. He will ever escalate anything in Iraq.

Him saying he is "considering" options is just to appease the warmongering Republicans like McCain.

It is hard to believe. Obama has mouthed the options on the table so often that they are rusty.
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

When the next attack happens here, and Innocent Americans die, that is squarely on Obama....

Why do you think it's the USofA's responsibility/job to control people and countries that are not part of the USofA????
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

When the next attack happens here, and Innocent Americans die, that is squarely on Obama....

Your laughable partisan nonsense has no place here.
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

When the next attack happens here, and Innocent Americans die, that is squarely on Obama....

This was bound to blow up like this the moment we intervened as we did.
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

Why does anyone with even a modest amount of intelligence think that the USofA can intervene in areas like Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan without it causing more issues than it "fixes"?

Why does anyone think "we" can "fix" anything in countries with those kinds of cultures, histories, and beliefs?

It's just plain silly.
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

No, it's this guy's fault.....

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LOL.
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

When the next attack happens here, and Innocent Americans die, that is squarely on Obama....

They didn't see **** because they're blinded by their Political correctness and their allegiance to do nothing...

The funniest part is that they claimed they "saw it coming" so what does that make them? stupid or tolerant?

They're ****ing idiots...
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

Why does anyone with even a modest amount of intelligence think that the USofA can intervene in areas like Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan without it causing more issues than it "fixes"?

Why does anyone think "we" can "fix" anything in countries with those kinds of cultures, histories, and beliefs?

It's just plain silly.


As a libertarian I will tell you why...

Because if we don't they will unify - get a nuke and will melt your skin off...

I don't agree with intervention either but these radicals are all on the same chapter, and once they're on the same page - we're in trouble, because they don't care weather they live or die - death to the Islamic radicals is a privilege if they do it taking out a non-Muslim....
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

As a libertarian I will tell you why...

Because if we don't they will unify - get a nuke and will melt your skin off...

I don't agree with intervention either but these radicals are all on the same chapter, and once they're on the same page - we're in trouble, because they don't care weather they live or die - death to the Islamic radicals is a privilege if they do it taking out a non-Muslim....

There's never been a bigger bunch of in-fighting what do you mean they're on the same page?
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

There's never been a bigger bunch of in-fighting what do you mean they're on the same page?

I said they're on the same chapter NOT on the same page.............. Yet.

When these nuts are on the same page your skin will melt....
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

I said they're on the same chapter NOT on the same page.............. Yet.

When these nuts are on the same page your skin will melt....

Oh, we'll we can blame that on decades of US support of the nasty bastards.
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

There's never been a bigger bunch of in-fighting what do you mean they're on the same page?

I would say that he means precisely that - everyone in the ANF/ISIL/AQSL conflict is pretty much in agreement about everything except a few tactical considerations and who is in charge.

When it comes to things like "should we launch attacks against the West", the answer is "yes." Unequivocally.

If anything, the ongoing infighting makes life more dangerous in the short term, as flashy attacks will allow one side a leg up in relation to the other as far as donations and recruits are concerned.
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

Oh, we'll we can blame that on decades of US support of the nasty bastards.

You have been schooled on this lie multiple times now and continue to repeat it. The US has not supported ISIL or ANF.
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

Actually it's squarely on decades of US policy to support militant Islamic groups in the ME. Nothing new here.

The US is greatly benefited by a divided ME. Handing arms to one side while "supporting" another is not new policy. Creating confusion is the oldest tactic used in warfare. And the war for declining global resources continues..
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

You have been schooled on this lie multiple times now and continue to repeat it. The US has not supported ISIL or ANF.

I truly question your knowledge, sincerity and your loyalty. Your no teacher.
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

When the next attack happens here, and Innocent Americans die, that is squarely on Obama....

Another attack is imminent. And we will again, fail to respond in any meaningful way. This, I fear, will be a repeat of WW1 and WW2. America and it's allies will fail to stop an imminent large scale world conflict. In the end, more Americans will die then if we had just taken care of this problem when we had the chance while we had forces in Iraq.
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

Another attack is imminent. And we will again, fail to respond in any meaningful way. This, I fear, will be a repeat of WW1 and WW2. America and it's allies will fail to stop an imminent large scale world conflict. In the end, more Americans will die then if we had just taken care of this problem when we had the chance while we had forces in Iraq.

Says who?
 
Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

I would say that he means precisely that - everyone in the ANF/ISIL/AQSL conflict is pretty much in agreement about everything except a few tactical considerations and who is in charge.

When it comes to things like "should we launch attacks against the West", the answer is "yes." Unequivocally.

If anything, the ongoing infighting makes life more dangerous in the short term, as flashy attacks will allow one side a leg up in relation to the other as far as donations and recruits are concerned.

Intent does not equal ability.
 
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When the next attack happens here, and Innocent Americans die, that is squarely on Obama....









That's your incorrect opinion, which you are entitled to and won't change anything in today's real world.






Myself, I place the blame directly where it belongs on Mr. G. W. Bush whose stupid action in Iraq set this whole chain of events in motion.

No matter who ends up on top in Iraq, one thing is for sure- Iraq will never be a reliable friend of the USA.




: Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." ~ John Stuart Mill
 
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Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

Your laughable partisan nonsense has no place here.




I totally agree, but we constantly see similar posts.

It's all about people who would like to control this planet and every human being on it.

The far right is a collection of control freaks who won't be happy until everyone needs a permit slip to use the restroom, and they control the permit slips.
 
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