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Israel may have committed war crimes during Gaza offensive, UN says

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Redress said:
From the source article:
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She also condemned Hamas and other militant groups for "indiscriminate attacks" on Israel.
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"Navi then followed up this condemnation by flapping one hand and saying "yaddah yaddah yaddah" before moving on to focus on Israel."
 
I think this is good for peace in that area. If both parties want to have an international court that is.
 
The German said:
Not being a UN member doesnt protect you from investigations into charges of crimes against humanity.
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As I understand it, and I admit I have not researched it much, but if you are not a country and don't have an actual legal military, kinda hard to be guilty of warcrimes. The article does make clear that the UN is aware however of potential(and I would say really likely at the least) criminal activity of their part. Whether the UN investigates it, I would think they would though the article is unclear(which may be the fault of the article or the UN).
 
Rainman05 said:
No, but Palestine kinda is. At least in the eyes of 70% of the countries in the UN. Hamas doesn't exist, it's technically a political party, though it is a terrorist group... well, a resistance group if you're a palestinian supporter.
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Not sure why a resistance group cannot be considered a terrorist group too. Hamas is clearly the latter, at least elements of it(don't read into that...I am not an expert so trying not to overstate).
 
Redress said:
As I understand it, and I admit I have not researched it much, but if you are not a country and don't have an actual legal military, kinda hard to be guilty of warcrimes. The article does make clear that the UN is aware however of potential(and I would say really likely at the least) criminal activity of their part. Whether the UN investigates it, I would think they would though the article is unclear(which may be the fault of the article or the UN).
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The Dutch just opend a case on the shooting down of MH 17 at the court for human rights.

That Russian construction "Donezk peoples popular republic" is not an UN member state and neither does anyone recognise it as one.
 
Montecresto said:
You said they look the other way, when as a point of fact they are looking directly at Hamas's use of rockets that they cannot control and condemning it. So don't accuse the UN of looking the other way.
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Not investigating an obvious crime is looking the other way. Even if the UN is directly looking at it.
 
shrubnose said:
Where did you get the authority to declare anything a war crime?

Who gave you that power?

Fill us in.
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The Doggone War Crime Bone Burying Tribunal at the Hague, presented me with my warrant and certification. That, and I had to memorize the numerous conventions that govern war, so that I wouldn't commit a war crime myself. What I stated in that post, is covered by the Hague Conventions and the Geneva Conventions, both.
 
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The German said:
The Dutch just opend a case on the shooting down of MH 17 at the court for human rights.

That Russian construction "Donezk peoples popular republic" is not an UN member state and neither does anyone recognise it as one.
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Is that the UN, or Dutch's private investigation?
 
shrubnose said:
The UN has said that Israel may have committed war crimes in its offensive against Hamas in Gaza, .
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When something is done about all the atrocities Hamas and similar orgs have done to Israel, THEN I will worry about whether Israel has done something that needs to be addressed.



But oddly enough, the crickets tend to chirp at the UN when Hamas is attacking, and we hear very little until Israel tries to do something in self-defense.
 
shrubnose said:
The UN has said that Israel may have committed war crimes in its offensive against Hamas in Gaza, in which hundreds of Palestinian civilians have been killed in the last two weeks, and voted with only one abstention to launch an international inquiry.

"There seems to be a strong possibility that international law has been violated in a manner that could amount to war crimes,"Navi Pillay the UN high commissioner for human rights said in Geneva.

Read more here: Israel may have committed war crimes during Gaza offensive, UN says | World news | The Guardian




I don't feel qualified to judge whether war crimes have been committed
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, but I do think that it's a possibility which should be checked out.
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Neither is Navi Pillay.
This is preposterous.
She bitches about Israel not doing enough to protect civilians in Gaza.
Warnings and leaflets ahead of time would normally be enough unless they weren't supposed to leave.
Certainly more than warnings from daily visual sightings of dozens of rocket contrails.

And another thing.
Bad actors crying for the camera should be a clue as to what's really going on.
 
I applaud Israel. It is truly amazing the restraint they've shown for so many years.

They are the only nation in that region that wants peace with all. The rest want nothing short of the total destruction and slaughter of Israel and every Jewish person walking.
 
Montecresto said:
Israel has 79 unresolved UN resolutions and condemnations, do we think they have any concern for human rights, the rule of law or international law?
For a people who arguably suffered the most in the last century, memory runs short.
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I have a lot of sympathy for the suffering that the Jewish people went through in the Holocaust, But I don't believe that we need to give Israel permission to do what others are not allowed to do.

There has to be a limit.
 
shrubnose said:
The UN has said that Israel may have committed war crimes in its offensive against Hamas in Gaza, in which hundreds of Palestinian civilians have been killed in the last two weeks, and voted with only one abstention to launch an international inquiry.

"There seems to be a strong possibility that international law has been violated in a manner that could amount to war crimes,"Navi Pillay the UN high commissioner for human rights said in Geneva.

Read more here: Israel may have committed war crimes during Gaza offensive, UN says | World news | The Guardian




I don't feel qualified to judge whether war crimes have been committed, but I do think that it's a possibility which should be checked out.
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If they really wanted to just kill civilians, they would carpet bomb.
 
DDD said:
I think this is good for peace in that area. If both parties want to have an international court that is.
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I'm sure that peace will be breaking out all over that area and everyone will be passing out flowers and candy before you know it.
 
clownboy said:
What about the Hamas attacks, no war crimes there? Transparent bias on the part of this UN weenie.
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I think this summarizes the typical anti-Israel response.
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Montecresto said:
Oh for Pete's sake. Yes indeed lets see UN condemnation on Hamas as well. Now want to speak to Israel's war crimes, again, or not.
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Sure.

The Palestinians are essentially Neanderthals, so arguably not even the same species as the Israelis.

I don't think you can call the killing of sub human primates a "war crime" and keep a straight face while doing it.
 
shrubnose said:
The UN has said that Israel may have committed war crimes in its offensive against Hamas in Gaza, in which hundreds of Palestinian civilians have been killed in the last two weeks, and voted with only one abstention to launch an international inquiry.

"There seems to be a strong possibility that international law has been violated in a manner that could amount to war crimes,"Navi Pillay the UN high commissioner for human rights said in Geneva.

Read more here: Israel may have committed war crimes during Gaza offensive, UN says | World news | The Guardian




I don't feel qualified to judge whether war crimes have been committed, but I do think that it's a possibility which should be checked out.
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Charges of War crimes by the UN against Israel should be taken with a grain of sand.
 
shrubnose said:
The UN has said that Israel may have committed war crimes in its offensive against Hamas in Gaza, in which hundreds of Palestinian civilians have been killed in the last two weeks, and voted with only one abstention to launch an international inquiry.

"There seems to be a strong possibility that international law has been violated in a manner that could amount to war crimes,"Navi Pillay the UN high commissioner for human rights said in Geneva.

Read more here: Israel may have committed war crimes during Gaza offensive, UN says | World news | The Guardian

I don't feel qualified to judge whether war crimes have been committed, but I do think that it's a possibility which should be checked out.
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I saw that and another statement and really do not quite see what crimes were committed. But I am sure that it bears watching. The fact that the UN bureaucracy are accusing and not the normal suspects in the General Assembly and that Obama is ambivalent are not usual.
 
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