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Study Finds Elementary Students Like New Healthier Lunches

roguenuke said:
Which has what to do with that link? That link has to do with what schools are required to serve students, which despite what is being said, is only 1/2 cup of any combination of fruits and/or vegetables, and at least two other items. This means that at most, the federal program can only be blamed for 1/2 cup of food waste, and then only if the student is not eating any of the fruits or vegetables on their plate. The rest is due to the individual schools making decisions beyond the guidelines, for whatever reasons.
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While I haven't heard anything being said about this particular program, student had always been able to take what they want. The offer-versus-serve program began in schools in 1981, the goals were to reduce food waste and to allow students to select foods they prefer. Schools were required to serve 5 items, a meat/meat alterative, milk, grains/bread, and two servings of fruits/vegatables and students were required to take 3 of the 5 items offered.

In essence not much has changed in the what schools were required to serve the students over the years.

With the new program students are forced to take a 1/2 cup of fruits and/or vegetables which they may or may not eat, possibly making way for a chance of food waste if it wasn't their choice to take them in the first place. While we all know 1/2 a cup is not much, it may be defeating the primary goal of the program, allow students to select foods they prefer and reduce waste.

I replied accordingly to a random link someone adds to a thread when they have
nothing to say to what they quoted.
 
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ObamacareFail said:
If that is the case....then why the bribe from the feds?
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Schools with more than 60% of free or reduced price meals, get a bigger bribe from the feds.
 
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Kreton said:
educating the child is the best that could be done. It would be great if parents could be responsible and feed their children healthy meals but a lot of parents are lazy. And oddly enough it seems some parents hate the idea of their children living long healthy lives. Even more oddly is alot of people complain out the burden of obesity and diet related illness costs on our healthcare systems and yet are opposed to kids eating healthy. I guess if you oppose both you always have something to complain about. maybe thats the purpose.
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I suppose that's why one size fits all programs will never fit comfortably.
 
Meadowlark said:
While I haven't heard anything being said about this particular program, student had always been able to take what they want. The offer-versus-serve program began in schools in 1981, the goals were to reduce food waste and to allow students to select foods they prefer. Schools were required to serve 5 items, a meat/meat alterative, milk, grains/bread, and two servings of fruits/vegatables and students were required to take 3 of the 5 items offered.

In essence not much has changed in the what schools were required to serve the students over the years.

With the new program students are forced to take a 1/2 cup of fruits and/or vegetables which they may or may not eat, possibly making way for a chance of food waste if it wasn't their choice to take them in the first place. While we all know 1/2 a cup is not much, it may be defeating the primary goal of the program, allow students to select foods they prefer and reduce waste.

I replied accordingly to a random link someone adds to a thread when they have
nothing to say to what they quoted.
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Actually, students haven't always been able to only take what they want. There have been individual school programs in the past where students were simply given ready-to-serve meals and just threw away what was left. This was simply easier and/or cheaper for some schools. Most students were also "trained" to take certain foods as well, even if they weren't necessarily going to eat them. It's one of the reasons I generally went through the bar line in high school, because I had no desire to have half of the stuff that was served in the normal lunch line slapped on my plate.
 
ObamacareFail said:
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I have already stated in more then one post in this thread that the taxpayers should get to decide. Do try to keep up.
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And yet, along with choices a and b, you already chose c:

c. A common sense mixture of both like they did before Moochelle's program existed. The kid's are not going to end up obese like Hillary Clinton merely over a school cafeteria serving Pizza or hamburgers once a week.
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It seems you're a bit inconsistent. On one hand, you think the taxpayer should choose, and on the other, your'e making the choice.
 
roguenuke said:
Actually, students haven't always been able to only take what they want. There have been individual school programs in the past where students were simply given ready-to-serve meals and just threw away what was left. This was simply easier and/or cheaper for some schools. Most students were also "trained" to take certain foods as well, even if they weren't necessarily going to eat them. It's one of the reasons I generally went through the bar line in high school, because I had no desire to have half of the stuff that was served in the normal lunch line slapped on my plate.
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You would be wrong.

If the students are required to select every item, the SFA is not using OVS.
Under OVS, students must be allowed to decline items offered.

You are simply changing the topic to a different program.
 
Meadowlark said:
You would be wrong.

If the students are required to select every item, the SFA is not using OVS.
Under OVS, students must be allowed to decline items offered.

You are simply changing the topic to a different program.
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The students aren't required to select every item. They are given options. Some schools are requiring students to take more than they have to, but that is on the schools themselves, not the program.
 
roguenuke said:
The students aren't required to select every item. They are given options. Some schools are requiring students to take more than they have to, but that is on the schools themselves, not the program.
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You are talking about two different programs.

OVS, Students have options and may select what they prefer, plus must take fruit and/or vegetables with the new regulations.

Some schools are NOT using the OVS program, they give the students what is required by the federal government. It is not on the school, it's mandated by the law.

Please link us to the "schools are requiring students to take more than they have to"
 
Here's a copy of my daughter's school lunch menu from this week:

http://district.ops.org/Portals/0/Business Services/Nutrition/Menu_Elementary/PrKAug18_22.pdf

Monday- Hamburger, fries, pears
Tuesday- Cheese pizza, salad, apple
Wednesday- Soft taco, corn, banana
Thursay- Cheese quesadilla, cherry tomatoes, kiwi
Friday - Grilled chilli lime chicken, brown rice, red beans, oranges


With the exception of Friday, I don't see any issue why most kids, my own included, wouldn't eat most of those items. Unless of course their parents don't parent and let the child decide what is right to eat. My daughter will usually whine that she doesn't like something, and it's most likely something she ate and liked before, so she either eats it or doesn't and gets no snacks. I will make her try new things and if she doesn't like it fine, but she won't know if she does or doesn't like it without trying.
 
There is no way you are convincing me that students like lunches that do not taste good. Now, if these healthy kip inches taste good..then I am quite sure they like them.

Having said that, I would like to see the nutritional content of these 'healthy lunches' before I would call them 'healthy'.
 
americanwoman said:
Here's a copy of my daughter's school lunch menu from this week:

http://district.ops.org/Portals/0/Business Services/Nutrition/Menu_Elementary/PrKAug18_22.pdf

Monday- Hamburger, fries, pears
Tuesday- Cheese pizza, salad, apple
Wednesday- Soft taco, corn, banana
Thursay- Cheese quesadilla, cherry tomatoes, kiwi
Friday - Grilled chilli lime chicken, brown rice, red beans, oranges


With the exception of Friday, I don't see any issue why most kids, my own included, wouldn't eat most of those items. Unless of course their parents don't parent and let the child decide what is right to eat. My daughter will usually whine that she doesn't like something, and it's most likely something she ate and liked before, so she either eats it or doesn't and gets no snacks. I will make her try new things and if she doesn't like it fine, but she won't know if she does or doesn't like it without trying.
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My own child's lunch menu when he starts next week.

Monday - Deep Dish Pepperoni Pizza, Tuna salad w/ crackers, Trix Yogurt cup, carrots, broccoli, peaches, seasonal fruit
Tuesday - Deli Turkey with cheese sub, Chicken nuggets w/ roll, romaine salad, whipped potatoes w/ gravy, pineapple, seasonal fruit
Wednesday - Corndog, Manager's choice, yogurt parfait w/pears, green peas, baked potato, strawberry cup, seasonal fruit, 100% orange juice
Thursday - Beef & broccoli w/rice, Cheese dunkers w/marinara sauce, corn, stir fry veggies, apple sauce, seasonal fruit
Friday - Chicken filet sandwich, Southwest quesadilla w/salsa, PB&J swirl box, sweet potato chunks w/maple glaze, refried beans, peaches

I honestly don't know what the issue is.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Shouldn't that be left to the taxpayers? Why do you get to decide?
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roguenuke said:
My own child's lunch menu when he starts next week.

Monday - Deep Dish Pepperoni Pizza, Tuna salad w/ crackers, Trix Yogurt cup, carrots, broccoli, peaches, seasonal fruit
Tuesday - Deli Turkey with cheese sub, Chicken nuggets w/ roll, romaine salad, whipped potatoes w/ gravy, pineapple, seasonal fruit
Wednesday - Corndog, Manager's choice, yogurt parfait w/pears, green peas, baked potato, strawberry cup, seasonal fruit, 100% orange juice
Thursday - Beef & broccoli w/rice, Cheese dunkers w/marinara sauce, corn, stir fry veggies, apple sauce, seasonal fruit
Friday - Chicken filet sandwich, Southwest quesadilla w/salsa, PB&J swirl box, sweet potato chunks w/maple glaze, refried beans, peaches

I honestly don't know what the issue is.
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The issue is obvious, isn't it?

The new lunch guidelines were supported by a Democrat. Therefore, the lunch menu is a liberal lunch menu, and therefore evil and intended to indoctrinate children into leftism.
 
Dittohead not! said:
And yet, along with choices a and b, you already chose c:



It seems you're a bit inconsistent. On one hand, you think the taxpayer should choose, and on the other, your'e making the choice.
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No inconsistency on my part I think the voters/parents should make the decision. I am only giving my opinion of what the composition of the meals should be. You do understand the difference between opinion and demand, don't you?
 
americanwoman said:
Here's a copy of my daughter's school lunch menu from this week:

http://district.ops.org/Portals/0/Business Services/Nutrition/Menu_Elementary/PrKAug18_22.pdf

Monday- Hamburger, fries, pears
Tuesday- Cheese pizza, salad, apple
Wednesday- Soft taco, corn, banana
Thursay- Cheese quesadilla, cherry tomatoes, kiwi
Friday - Grilled chilli lime chicken, brown rice, red beans, oranges


With the exception of Friday, I don't see any issue why most kids, my own included, wouldn't eat most of those items. Unless of course their parents don't parent and let the child decide what is right to eat. My daughter will usually whine that she doesn't like something, and it's most likely something she ate and liked before, so she either eats it or doesn't and gets no snacks. I will make her try new things and if she doesn't like it fine, but she won't know if she does or doesn't like it without trying.
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That menu brings up another point. I don't think the schools should be serving any meal but lunch. Let the parents feed them breakfast before they head off to school.
 
ObamacareFail said:
That menu brings up another point. I don't think the schools should be serving any meal but lunch. Let the parents feed them breakfast before they head off to school.
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Why serve any meal?

What's so special about lunch?
 
Dittohead not! said:
Why serve any meal?

What's so special about lunch?
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I kind of hope you can work that one out on your own. They are not at home during lunch period. Breakfast is a waste of taxpayer money. When I was a kid, they did not offer breakfast at the public schools. We somehow survived. I'ts called "breakfast at home before you head to school". What's next? Send social workers to their homes to tuck them in at night?
 
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ObamacareFail said:
I kind of hope you can work that one out on your own. They are not at home during lunch period. Breakfast is a waste of taxpayer money. When I was a kid, they did not offer breakfast at the public schools. We somehow survived. I'ts called "breakfast at home before you head to school". What's next? Send social workers to their homes to tuck them in at night?
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They aren't home during lunch period, but they can bring a lunch with them to school. Why should the taxpayers provide lunch for the little freeloaders at all?

They didn't have breakfast when I was in school either. The school lunch was only subsidized to the point that the cafeteria was given surplus agricultural products. As a result, the lunch served at school was pretty good, little regulated, and cost about the same as a burger, fries and a soft drink at the local burger place.

On the other hand, unskilled and semi skilled work payed a whole lot more than it does now. Maybe it's time for the government to quit subsidizing low wage employers.
 
Dittohead not! said:
They aren't home during lunch period, but they can bring a lunch with them to school. Why should the taxpayers provide lunch for the little freeloaders at all?

They didn't have breakfast when I was in school either. The school lunch was only subsidized to the point that the cafeteria was given surplus agricultural products. As a result, the lunch served at school was pretty good, little regulated, and cost about the same as a burger, fries and a soft drink at the local burger place.

On the other hand, unskilled and semi skilled work payed a whole lot more than it does now. Maybe it's time for the government to quit subsidizing low wage employers.
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I will just repeat that I am okay with the public schools serving lunch. Breakfast is a vast waste of taxpayer money. I'll leave it at that.
 
ObamacareFail said:
I will just repeat that I am okay with the public schools serving lunch. Breakfast is a vast waste of taxpayer money. I'll leave it at that.
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Have you ever heard of Maslow's hierarchy of needs?

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Jack Hays said:
Now Michelle Obama Has Caused America’s ‘Best Cafeteria Cookie’ To Be Outlawed

An eruption of aggravation about what American schoolchildren can no longer eat in school cafeterias is never far away in the Obama era. Now, thanks to federal intervention that first lady Michelle has made her signature issue, students in all 11 taxpayer-funded public schools in Elyria, Ohio…

The Daily Caller
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It’s a velvety, cake-like, scrumptious delicacy glazed with a huge dollop of sugary pink icing. Cleveland magazine dubbed the Elyria pink cookie the “Best Cafeteria Cookie” in 2009. Locals will even call up asking for special bulk orders of the tasty treat.
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Just what today's overweight kids need to be eating for lunch.
 
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