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Pictures show pro-Russian seperatists moving missles away from MH 17 crash site.

I don't need too. The aircraft broke up on the ground.

Excuse me. I didn't know you had already conducted an investigation, my apologies.
 
Ianian civilian aircraft shot down by the US.

Three years after the incident, Admiral William J. Crowe admitted on American television show Nightline that the Vincennes was inside Iranian territorial waters when it launched the missiles.[36] This contradicted earlier Navy statements. The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) report of December 1988 placed the USS Vincennes well inside Iran's territorial waters.[37]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
 
You do realize that we didn't have to agree to even allow them to act as an arbiter, since we don't recognize that court? And, an apology doesn't have to have the words "sorry" or "apology" for it to be an apology. Expressing regret is the same as saying sorry or apologizing. We never denied culpability, as Russia and the Eastern Ukraine Rebels are doing, and we also admitted culpability when we expressed regret and then paid the money.

The height of American arrogance.

"I will never apologize for the United States — I don't care what the facts are... I'm not an apologize-for-America kind of guy." - George Bush, Aug 2 1988
 
Hahaha Monte loves Russia so much
 
The height of American arrogance.

"I will never apologize for the United States — I don't care what the facts are... I'm not an apologize-for-America kind of guy." - George Bush, Aug 2 1988

My friend. Today is not a good day to get on my bad side with quotes taken out of context to meet your anti-American agenda or to imply that I am, or anything I say is - the height of American arrogance. And, it ain't arrogance, it's called SOVEREIGNTY.

Look, you and I have been able to get along for years now. I ignore the things I think are bat**** crazy that you say, and you ignore the things that you think are bat**** crazy that I say.

I suggest we continue with that and end this conversation on this subject right now. Deal?
 
My friend. Today is not a good day to get on my bad side with quotes taken out of context to meet your anti-American agenda or to imply that I am, or anything I say is - the height of American arrogance. And, it ain't arrogance, it's called SOVEREIGNTY.

Look, you and I have been able to get along for years now. I ignore the things I think are bat**** crazy that you say, and you ignore the things that you think are bat**** crazy that I say.

I suggest we continue with that and end this conversation on this subject right now. Deal?

Ok Beau, deal, but it was Bush's comment that I claimed arrogant, nothing you've ever said:)
 
Ok Beau, deal, but it was Bush's comment that I claimed arrogant, nothing you've ever said:)

Thanks Monte. I shouldn't have called you or your post Anti-American. Like I said, I'm having a bad day, and my temper is on a hair trigger right now.

I publicly apologize to you. It was uncalled for and you deserve more respect than that, especially from me.
 
Thanks Monte. I shouldn't have called you or your post Anti-American. Like I said, I'm having a bad day, and my temper is on a hair trigger right now.

I publicly apologize to you. It was uncalled for and you deserve more respect than that, especially from me.

And thank you Beau. I'm sorry you're having a bad day, I shall keep that in mind bud! It's all good with me and you.
 
I'm fully aware that you haven't done any research. :roll:

I'm sure that I'm paying at least as close of attention to this as you are. Even so, there's far to much CONFLICTING information to be making declarations at this point. Hold your horses and try for once to be objective.
 
You are the one that is questioning the translation, if you have any doubt then you should check with the Russians. Oh wait, they never mentioned it because there covering it up. Oh yeah, cause we're going to believe the same foreign minister that was trying to convince the world those weren't Russian troops in Crimea. I wouldn't believe him if he told me the sky was blue, since there's no such thing as a free press in Russia anyways. And we didn't choose a side in this conflict, it chose us. Not our fault that the Ukrainians kicked out the Russian Puppet President.

Finally, If we're so imperialistic, then how come we keep giving up countries we've fought for huh? The only imperialist in this conversation is the Russians... or did you not see them just annex Crimea?

It could be argued that the EU annexed Ukraine several months ago, supporting a violent coup, the overthrow of the Ukraine government and installing a pro Russian government.
 
The height of American arrogance.

"I will never apologize for the United States — I don't care what the facts are... I'm not an apologize-for-America kind of guy." - George Bush, Aug 2 1988

What's wrong with what Bush said? You also accused me of being "Pro American" as well.

Do you expect apologies from every national leader or only Americans?
 
What's wrong with what Bush said? You also accused me of being "Pro American" as well.

Do you expect apologies from every national leader or only Americans?

There's nothing wrong with apologising when you've erred. Do you have difficulty with it?
 
Only by wackos.

Well then only a wacko would accuse Russia of annexing Crimea when through self determination, they JOINED Russia!
 
Why should George Bush apologize for America?

Everybody would do good to apologise when they've done wrong. Don't understand your objection.
 
Well then only a wacko would accuse Russia of annexing Crimea when through self determination, they JOINED Russia!

In fact that wasn't the claim. Do you need a reminder again?

Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto
It could be argued that the EU annexed Ukraine several months ago, supporting a violent coup, the overthrow of the Ukraine government and installing a pro Russian government.
 
Everybody would do good to apologise when they've done wrong. Don't understand your objection.

But every country isn't apologizing when doing wrong, are they? Why should it just be America, or are you looking for apologies for every country everywhere and, if they don't apologize, are they the height of arrogance as well??
 
But every country isn't apologizing when doing wrong, are they? Why should it just be America, or are you looking for apologies for every country everywhere and, if they don't apologize, are they the height of arrogance as well??

It's stating that you're not going to apologise for your wrong thats arrogant. As an American, I'm interested in what we do, and how we effect others.

Former U.S. President George W. Bush apologized for the Iraq War today, saying the conflict was "his biggest mistake."

In a statement released to a Texas newspaper, the 66-year-old Bush said he meant well when he sent America to war but asked the American people to forgive what in retrospect was "a clear example of poor judgement."

http://dailycurrant.com/2013/03/20/george-bush-apologizes-iraq-war/
 
Can you not see the difference between the two statements?

I see both differences and similarities. Save time and get straight to your point.
 
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