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Former POW Bergdahl set to return to active duty [W:159]

I believe the Army, who put him back on active duty instead of prosecuting him.

Wow, why on earth would you? Do you seriously believe the Army is going to go against the POTUS?
 
Innocent before guilty, not the other way around.

I've been defending this guy since the story came out and people started asking for him to be shot (I mean really? Let's shoot American soldiers! Because god knows they aren't being shot at enough...).
Nothing WCH said did not take into account Bergdahl's right to an assumption of innocence rather than guilt. But given the seriousness of the situation under investigation it is safe to assume that he (Bergdahl) is operating under certain restrictions. Medical and otherwise. In the matter of a court martial investigation this is par for the course.

While you were responding to something WCH did not actually say, you did not address the contention that Bergdahl is supposed to be "recovered" after five years in captivity. In the span of a couple of months. Which is ridiculous and does at least pose obvious questions about this announcement, in many thoughtful and skeptical minds. Specifically if this seemingly premature announcement is just more use of Bergdahl as a tool of political narrative and focus, for obviously political motives.
 
I worked for our government, was a part of a local government, and had great faith in our government -until the last 5 years.

That's what governments do to the people, forever. Or did you think that was just a democratic tactic?
 
I worked for our government, was a part of a local government, and had great faith in our government -until the last 5 years.

Yes, famous last words from many after the Bush administration was over.
 
So it turns out that investigators did not press AWOL charges against him, and from previous stories that he frequently left the base to take hikes, and then came back each time, it turns out that the accusations against him from many pundits here were unfounded. So why the firestorm over the trade to get him back? We don't leave our own in the hands of the enemy, whether or not they were AWOL, but it seems that some here were very willing to do that, whether or not Bergdahl had been AWOL or not. What the hell is happening to us if we are willing to throw our soldiers into the garbage over allegations, even before an investigation shows the evidence was not enough to put Bergdahl on trial? So we traded 5 Taliban members for Bergdahl - I call that a good trade. Bergdahl is one of ours, and we don't leave ours behind to rot on the battlefield, or in the prisons of the enemy. That is the American way.

Article is here.

The investigation was conducted outside Bergdahl's chain of command, which means it was an illegal investigation. Whoever ordered the investigation excercised unlawful command authority.
 
This is what I'm thinking as well. To be tried he would have to be placed back onto active duty. I doubt the investigation is over, there is still many questions that need to be answered and they are probably gathering up testimony as well.

I don't think this is over, nor should it be IMO.

From what I understand Bergdahl can not be tried under the UCMJ without being on active duty. There is no excuse for deserting, he will be convicted and serve his time IMHO.

We need to allow time, for justice to be served.
 
First of all, that's not nearly long enough to recover sufficiently from that long in captivity.

Second, the investigation isn't over...nor should it be.

I would consider this guy a danger and security risk until proven otherwise.

Has he learned English again? I would think he will have to speak English to the other workers in the office.
 
This is what I'm thinking as well. To be tried he would have to be placed back onto active duty. I doubt the investigation is over, there is still many questions that need to be answered and they are probably gathering up testimony as well.

I don't think this is over, nor should it be IMO.

He was never off active duty. You know that.
 
The investigation was conducted outside Bergdahl's chain of command, which means it was an illegal investigation. Whoever ordered the investigation exercised unlawful command authority.

Obama still doesn't understand the military chain of command.

Obama actually thought that Valerie Jarret was with in the military chain of command until some Air Force General had to expalin to Jarret that "yes civilians run the military but you are the wrong civilian." :lamo

But still Valerie Jarrett can be seen walking though the hallways of the Pentagon and nobody is questioning why, except me.

BTW: We know who's Obama's senior, numero uno, # 1 national security adviser is, Susan Rice. How many remember when the Sudan government offered to turn over Osama bin Laden to the USA back in 1996 that it was Susan Rice with in the Clinton administration who opposed taking Bin Laden into custody.
 
Obama still doesn't understand the military chain of command.

Obama actually thought that Valerie Jarret was with in the military chain of command until some Air Force General had to expalin to Jarret that "yes civilians run the military but you are the wrong civilian." :lamo

But still Valerie Jarrett can be seen walking though the hallways of the Pentagon and nobody is questioning why, except me.

BTW: We know who's Obama's senior, numero uno, # 1 national security adviser is, Susan Rice. How many remember when the Sudan government offered to turn over Osama bin Laden to the USA back in 1996 that it was Susan Rice with in the Clinton administration who opposed taking Bin Laden into custody.

Obama believes he's above the law.
 
My bet is there are ready to braid his noose.

Neh, this is over. Bergdahl will finish his enlistment and be given an honorable discharge.
 
He was never off active duty. You know that.

Sorry "active duty" was a poor choice of words, "full duty" was what I meant.
 
Let the games begin.

The question will now be simple. Do you believe this man (Bergdahl) and the investigators / government that used him for a big media splash, the same regime that has lied over and over or do you believe the soldiers that claim he is a deserter and traitor to the nation? I know who I believe, and I suspect anyone that loves our current regime will believe opposite. Sad that the truth may never be known, but I can't take for granted anything that comes from this government.

The answer is simple. Do YOU support the 5th and 14th Amendment Rights of Due Process? IF you do, and I have my doubts that you do, then Bergdahl is innocent until proven guilty.
 
It was predicted. In Obama new politically correct army, abandoning your post in combat and surrendering to the enemy is now considered to be "serving with honor and distinction."

Who wants to bet that Obama awards Bergdahl with the POW Medal ?

And convicting peole without a trial is so American, isn't it. I understand some have to believe what they want to be true instead of what the evidence shows, but I will continue to point it out and laugh.
 
US army a little short on recruits?
 
And convicting peole without a trial is so American, isn't it. I understand some have to believe what they want to be true instead of what the evidence shows, but I will continue to point it out and laugh.

I'm sure you remember military justice isn't the same as it is in the civilian world. **** there's even CATCH-22 in todays UCMJ.

Personally I would prefer going back to "Rocks and Shoals."
 
I'm sure you remember military justice isn't the same as it is in the civilian world. **** there's even CATCH-22 in todays UCMJ.

Personally I would prefer going back to "Rocks and Shoals."

None of which addresses anything I actually said. Even in the military, presumption of guilt is not the case, not is conviction without trial.
 
I believe the Army, who put him back on active duty instead of prosecuting him.

They haven't even started the investigation yet. Don't forget he was a prisoner and is still recovering. Time will tell.
 
So it turns out that investigators did not press AWOL charges against him, and from previous stories that he frequently left the base to take hikes, and then came back each time, it turns out that the accusations against him from many pundits here were unfounded. So why the firestorm over the trade to get him back? We don't leave our own in the hands of the enemy, whether or not they were AWOL, but it seems that some here were very willing to do that, whether or not Bergdahl had been AWOL or not. What the hell is happening to us if we are willing to throw our soldiers into the garbage over allegations, even before an investigation shows the evidence was not enough to put Bergdahl on trial? So we traded 5 Taliban members for Bergdahl - I call that a good trade. Bergdahl is one of ours, and we don't leave ours behind to rot on the battlefield, or in the prisons of the enemy. That is the American way.

Article is here.

I don't think anyone is claiming that we should have left him to rot. I think most people are angry over the price we paid for him. At some prices anything is a bad deal.
 
And convicting peole without a trial is so American, isn't it. I understand some have to believe what they want to be true instead of what the evidence shows, but I will continue to point it out and laugh.

Why? The evidence shows that he deserted his post.
 
None of which addresses anything I actually said. Even in the military, presumption of guilt is not the case, not is conviction without trial.

You have gone senile Redress, you already have forgotten your Navy days.

Remember the term "Standing before the man" ?

Remember Article 15 of the UCMJ, Non-Judicial Punishment ?

Remember those big and scary looking sadistic Marines :eek: who ran the Navy brigs ?
 
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