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Gutierrez Urges Obama to Let Undocumented Immigrants Stay [W:128]

To a corporation that is chump change.
1. Note the word "Minimum" I put over the fines.
2. That is Not Chump Change to a ie Chicken factory (as someone mentioned earlier), employing several hundred.
These factories probably only save 10k a year on Each worker and they would Further LOSE all those illegals who would be deported on discovery.
These 'corporations' aren't Citibank, those are relatively Big fines and loss of experienced personnel for say, an Office cleaning company that employs 100. 100 x 5000.
 
Do you honestly believe that the illegal invasion is a benefit to America? It is bankrupting us. It costs us BILLIONS!

Your correct about that, but if immigration is bankrupting us at billions, then our pentagon has broke us half in two!!!
 
Agreed. Every decision the government makes is WRONG!

Because government is just plain evil. :roll: :3oops: :roll:
 
Because government is just plain evil. :roll: :3oops: :roll:

Definitely not evil. But it is corrupt and incompetent.
 
Is a country without borders a sovereign nation?
 
Is a country without borders a sovereign nation?

No, but globalisation looks past, and has no use for the impediment known as borders.
 
No, but globalisation looks past, and has no use for the impediment known as borders.
Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador all have 'impediments known as borders'. Canada too. All these countries seem to think that borders are a good thing because it defines their country. If America wants to throw away the concept of borders it should first get an agreement and cooperation with every other country involved before acting unilaterally.

Who told you 'globalization' has no use for borders?
 
Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador all have 'impediments known as borders'. Canada too. All these countries seem to think that borders are a good thing because it defines their country. If America wants to throw away the concept of borders it should first get an agreement and cooperation with every other country involved before acting unilaterally.

Who told you 'globalization' has no use for borders?

Haha, the US seeking agreement or cooperation from its southern neighbours.
 
Haha, the US seeking agreement or cooperation from its southern neighbours.

Do you believe they are doing that? Are the Central American nations making moves in that direction?

Of course not! What is being suggested by many is that an open border policy should be exclusive to the United States.

I thought you couldn't possible be an American and it seems you are not.
 
Is a country without borders a sovereign nation?
To this question, I'd have to say 'No'.
No, but globalisation looks past, and has no use for the impediment known as borders.

Globalization is a economic and cultural thing, who produces what and where, and to which customer base it's sold to. Doesn't speak to immigration, legal or illegal.
Globalization (or globalisation) is the process of international integration arising from the interchange of world views, products, ideas, and other aspects of culture.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP] Advances in transportation and telecommunications infrastructure, including the rise of the telegraph and its posterity the Internet, are major factors in globalization, generating further interdependence of economic and cultural activities.[SUP][3][/SUP]
Globalization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is no 'globalization' of national borders.
 
Do you believe they are doing that? Are the Central American nations making moves in that direction?

Of course not! What is being suggested by many is that an open border policy should be exclusive to the United States.

I thought you couldn't possible be an American and it seems you are not.

My citizenship is irrelevant, and could hardly be proved on an Internet forum. What's difficult for you to comprehend is somebody actually holding there own accountable. And no surprise, little as that is seen.
 
My citizenship is irrelevant, and could hardly be proved on an Internet forum. What's difficult for you to comprehend is somebody actually holding there own accountable. And no surprise, little as that is seen.

So you did not claim at one time to being American?
 
So you did not claim at one time to being American?

Well of course I did/do. But finding it difficult to believe that somebody would actually want to hold his own country responsible, as opposed to blind patronising rhetoric, you prefer to dismiss my US citizenship. But I couldn't care less about it.
 
Well of course I did/do. But finding it difficult to believe that somebody would actually want to hold his own country responsible, as opposed to blind patronising rhetoric, you prefer to dismiss my US citizenship. But I couldn't care less about it.

That's not the reason I'm asking. Just out of curiosity, were you born and raised in the US?
 

Technology has taken globalization from a mere concept to an actualized paradigm. The Industrial Revolution was the kick start. Capitalism fuels it. All for the .00001%. If borders interfere with profits, get rid of them.
 
That's not the reason I'm asking. Just out of curiosity, were you born and raised in the US?

You asked me the same thing many months ago, and I confirmed to you that I was.
 
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