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Germany expels CIA official in US spy row

Over what?

I call this nonsense a bull**** smoke screen and an attempt to take emphasis off of other issues....

You see - the progressive brain is slow and loyal. This is "wag the dog."

Do you think it possible to say, what you mean in a manner that communicates, what you are trying to say?
 
Do you think it possible to say, what you mean in a manner that communicates, what you are trying to say?

I could but I choose not to...

You damn well know what I'm saying...... You dig Yoda?
 
I could but I choose not to...

You damn well know what I'm saying...... You dig Yoda?

Not really. Sounds rather incoherent to me.
 
Good, if you don't speak my language than why comment?

Because the sounds were those of literate English and bore the feeling of incorrectness.
 
Germany doesn't need spies -

Obviously they do see the need for spies, because the guy in question was a double spy. That means he was spying for the Germans, before he was spying for us.

they're smart and they're successful. Contrary to the US.

I guess that's why we kicked their ass...twice!
 
Because the sounds were those of literate English and bore the feeling of incorrectness.

Yeah right...... Booho....

The only one here who is incorrect is you...

I don't agree with you - go cry a river.....

How dare I not agree with you right? ya ****ing authoritarian fool.

Sorry I don't adhere to progressive ideals...... If you cant respect that then you're a tyrant clown.

I have First Amendment rights dummy, despite the fact you hate the Constitution.
 
Why are we spying on Germany in the first place? they're hardly a threat...

Oh yeah - Obama is a ****ing moron that want's to look useful but doesn't want to out the real terrorists because they're brown - hence his buddies.

Obama has contributed to our woes to be sure, but why is everything that is wrong with America Obama's fault?

The spying scandal ripping Germany and the U.S. apart has deep roots. For decades, current and former U.S. intelligence officials say, the CIA has sent agents into Germany without Berlin’s knowledge—in part, out of concerns that the German security state was penetrated by its Russian neighbors.

One Big Reason The CIA Spied on Germany: Worries About Russian Moles in Berlin - The Daily Beast
 
I see, you have not read up on German behavior. A country edging toward Russia and that regularly supplies technologies for WMD to countries like Syria, Libya or Iran must be spied on by any country with half responsible leaders.

Then its little wonder that the US needs to be spied upon.
 
Obama has contributed to our woes to be sure, but why is everything that is wrong with America Obama's fault?

The spying scandal ripping Germany and the U.S. apart has deep roots. For decades, current and former U.S. intelligence officials say, the CIA has sent agents into Germany without Berlin’s knowledge—in part, out of concerns that the German security state was penetrated by its Russian neighbors.

One Big Reason The CIA Spied on Germany: Worries About Russian Moles in Berlin - The Daily Beast

Why is it Obama's fault?

Why does Obama think he can circumvent congress?

If he is bold enough to do that then I can blame him.

Just a stroke of the pen eh?
 
Why is it Obama's fault?

Why does Obama think he can circumvent congress?

If he is bold enough to do that then I can blame him.

Just a stroke of the pen eh?

I think I made clear at the beginning of my post that I don't excuse Obama. But if you read the link, you'd have found that US spying on Germany has deep roots, DECADES. So if Obama is a moron for spying on Germany, what does that make Bush, Clinton, Bush.........?
 
Then its little wonder that the US needs to be spied upon.

Of course other countries want to spy on the US and they do unless their governments are reckless and irresponsible.
But wouldn't you feel rather like a clown to be surprised, get angry and rile about it? That would be like threatening nature for raining on your birthday.
 
Of course other countries want to spy on the US and they do unless their governments are reckless and irresponsible.
But wouldn't you feel rather like a clown to be surprised, get angry and rile about it? That would be like threatening nature for raining on your birthday.

For some odd reason, it doesn't appear that Mrs. Merkel feels like a clown. She knows that her personal phone, (as opposed to say phones at the US created BND), was spied upon. She's too pissed to be clowning.
 
For some odd reason, it doesn't appear that Mrs. Merkel feels like a clown. She knows that her personal phone, (as opposed to say phones at the US created BND), was spied upon. She's too pissed to be clowning.

I doubt very much that she is in any way "pissed". Only were she an idiot, which she is not, didn't she know the extent of spying going on. But she knows that her Volk is angry as the politicians have miss-represented the situation for decades and been doing things with NSA that would cost many of them not only their jobs but their freedom. So they are using the External Enemy Defense. That is so obvious it screams at you.
 
I doubt very much that she is in any way "pissed". Only were she an idiot, which she is not, didn't she know the extent of spying going on. But she knows that her Volk is angry as the politicians have miss-represented the situation for decades and been doing things with NSA that would cost many of them not only their jobs but their freedom. So they are using the External Enemy Defense. That is so obvious it screams at you.

Perhaps if you were right Mrs. Merkel would feign anger only publicly.

In an angry exchange with Barack Obama, Angela Merkel has compared the snooping practices of the US with those of the Stasi, the ubiquitous and all-powerful secret police of the communist dictatorship in East Germany, where she grew up

Merkel compared NSA to Stasi in heated encounter with Obama | World news | The Guardian
 
I think I made clear at the beginning of my post that I don't excuse Obama. But if you read the link, you'd have found that US spying on Germany has deep roots, DECADES. So if Obama is a moron for spying on Germany, what does that make Bush, Clinton, Bush.........?

We spy on everyone, I know this, however to make it an issue is inanity and downright dumb....

I just think it is a waste of money... Or a waste of an issue...
 
Well, spying on other nations - and even on Business - is one thing.
Getting caught is another one.
For me it seems that US spies are as inefficient as US politicians if not to say the US economy.

Don't disagree there. It's just the old saying "It's only illegal if you get caught".
 
Why are we spying on Germany in the first place? they're hardly a threat...

Oh yeah - Obama is a ****ing moron that want's to look useful but doesn't want to out the real terrorists because they're brown - hence his buddies.
Hahahahahahahaha

A+ satire! Up there with the gif of the guy dropping popcorn on himself and blaming Obama!
 
And also a more wistful and sad "lol" at Monte for not understanding the universal nature of espionage.
 
We spy on everyone, I know this, however to make it an issue is inanity and downright dumb....

I just think it is a waste of money... Or a waste of an issue...

Well then we agree. But you were the one that asked, "why are we even spying on Germany"?
 
Many US officials have been all over the news declaring that the expulsion of the CIA chief in Germany is UNPRECIDENTED! There is more to this story than we all know about, and pretending that this was generic espionage and Merkel popped off a little to save face is just cover.
 
In an angry exchange with Barack Obama, Angela Merkel has compared the snooping practices of the US with those of the Stasi, the ubiquitous and all-powerful secret police of the communist dictatorship in East Germany, where she grew up

If she believes that, she is as dangerous as I thought.


PS: Thank you for explaining the Stasi to me and reminding me of he CV.
 
If she believes that, she is as dangerous as I thought.


PS: Thank you for explaining the Stasi to me and reminding me of he CV.

That wasn't the purpose of the post dude! In a phone call with Obama, Merkel expressed her anger. Which makes no sense if it was just for public consumption.
 
That wasn't the purpose of the post dude! In a phone call with Obama, Merkel expressed her anger. Which makes no sense if it was just for public consumption.

In what way does it make "no sense"?
 
In what way does it make "no sense"?

The public face would feign anger, the private face would acknowledge only that the Obama administration failed by letting the cat out of the bag.
 
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