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Indiana won't recognize same-sex marriages

clownboy said:
Okay, that let's Lursa off the hook on this one. My apologies, I took your post as humorous and replied in that vein.

Now, non-humor: The turkey baster can work, but it is medically inadvisable and a dangerous way to go about getting pregnant. Not only do you risk fatal infections but you risk damaging the sperm and/or your entire reproductive system. If you try this you are an idiot.
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You are still joking right? There is nothing medically inadvisable about it nor is it dangerous. Seriously dude....you come up with some real doozies!

Women insert objects into their vaginas all the time (I'm probably telling you something that you don't know).
 
clownboy said:
Yup, pretty much the fanatical reply I was expecting. The post I replied to was tongue in cheek as was my reply. That's why the emoticon.

And anyone who is using a turkey baster to inseminate themselves doesn't care one wit for the product. Good grief, and we give the trailer park set guff for Rube Goldberg stupidity.
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As you can see, I'm not real concerned about your opinions of me.


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disneydude said:
You are still joking right? There is nothing medically inadvisable about it nor is it dangerous. Seriously dude....you come up with some real doozies!
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Your are seriously confused and should NOT be giving medical advice. In the legitimate "turkey baster method", that works safely, a real turkey baster is NOT used. Rather a new and clean needleless syringe is used.
 
clownboy said:
Your are seriously confused and should NOT be giving medical advice. In the legitimate "turkey baster method", that works safely, a real turkey baster is NOT used. Rather a new and clean needleless syringe is used.
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Turkey basters generally do not have needles....

Oh and by the way, an previously unused turkey baster is still a turkey baster, not a syringe....Doh!


It appears you know as much about cooking as you do the female body.
 
disneydude said:
Turkey basters generally do not have needles....

Oh and by the way, an previously unused turkey baster is still a turkey baster, not a syringe....Doh!


It appears you know as much about cooking as you do the female body.
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Where did I say they did? Keep arguing, but quit with the horrible medical advice. Putting a real turkey baster, even unused, inside you is a terrible idea. You risk infections and again, the type of plastic used to form the baster tube and bulb are not medical rated, but food rated.

Look, people, if you want to try this method, there are kits available that contain medical rated and sterile gear. No, they don't come with a Thanksgiving turkey baster, but a needleless syringe.
 
clownboy said:
Where did I say they did? Keep arguing, but quit with the horrible medical advice. Putting a real turkey baster, even unused, inside you is a terrible idea. You risk infections and again, the type of plastic used to form the baster tube and bulb are not medical rated, but food rated.
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I'm done with this conversation. You obviously have no clue....and I no longer have the patience..... goodbye!
 
clownboy said:
And thanks, that negates the need for gay marriage and suggests that homosexuals can be made into heterosexuals. Behavior is what counts IRL.
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This continues to demonstrate that you don't know the difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior. Thanks for showing that so clearly.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Procreation is irrelevant in the context of providing a stable life for a child. Evidence proves that gays do this as well as straights.
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It might be irrelevant to you but it is not to people that favor traditional marriage.
 
Navy Pride said:
It might be irrelevant to you but it is not to people that favor traditional marriage.
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First of all, traditional marriage includes polygamy, group marriage, marriage not for love or attraction, marriage to please the families mainly, marriage where the man simply picks out the woman he wants to claim as his bride, and many other things that I'm willing to bet most of those who claim to "favor traditional marriage" actually don't favor.

Second, it is also irrelevant that some of those who might be anti-ssm (since, as I've shown above it isn't really "traditional marriage" they favor at all) think procreative ability is important. I don't see you fighting to make it illegal for women who have had a hysterectomy from getting married, or testing every couple before they get married to ensure they can procreate with each other. Nor is there any kind of movement even to change the laws regarding cousin getting married in states like Utah and Arizona, where they have to show a negative ability to procreate or be above a certain age (deemed not likely to have children) in order to be allowed to marry legally.

We are talking about legal marriage. You are free to be in a church that refuses to wed those who can't procreate with each other all you wish and nothing will happen or even stop those churches from refusing such weddings/marriages.
 
roguenuke said:
First of all, traditional marriage includes polygamy, group marriage, marriage not for love or attraction, marriage to please the families mainly, marriage where the man simply picks out the woman he wants to claim as his bride, and many other things that I'm willing to bet most of those who claim to "favor traditional marriage" actually don't favor.

Second, it is also irrelevant that some of those who might be anti-ssm (since, as I've shown above it isn't really "traditional marriage" they favor at all) think procreative ability is important. I don't see you fighting to make it illegal for women who have had a hysterectomy from getting married, or testing every couple before they get married to ensure they can procreate with each other. Nor is there any kind of movement even to change the laws regarding cousin getting married in states like Utah and Arizona, where they have to show a negative ability to procreate or be above a certain age (deemed not likely to have children) in order to be allowed to marry legally.

We are talking about legal marriage. You are free to be in a church that refuses to wed those who can't procreate with each other all you wish and nothing will happen or even stop those churches from refusing such weddings/marriages.
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No one is refusing males and females the chance to marry be it a church or a justice of the peace............It goes without saying some couples can not produce children but the fact remains no Gay couple on their own can produce a child.
 
Navy Pride said:
No one is refusing males and females the chance to marry be it a church or a justice of the peace............It goes without saying some couples can not produce children but the fact remains no Gay couple on their own can produce a child.
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That's the point. No one is refusing men and women who can't have children the chance to marry, yet they want to refuse two men or two women and the reason, according to you, is because they can't have children.

No woman who has an hysterectomy can have children with any man. There are couples who cannot have children on their own, no matter how hard they try. They will all need outside help, and yet you do not deny them the right to marriage. Your reasoning fails short. In fact, you have yet to address the fact about first cousins at all.
 
Navy Pride said:
It might be irrelevant to you but it is not to people that favor traditional marriage.
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If those people refuse to educate themselves on the facts... such as that gays raise children just as well as straights, then those people are irrelevant and I couldn't give one iota of caring to what they think.
 
Navy Pride said:
No one is refusing males and females the chance to marry be it a church or a justice of the peace............It goes without saying some couples can not produce children but the fact remains no Gay couple on their own can produce a child.
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AND, since procreation is not a requirement for marriage, this argument of your is illogical.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
If those people refuse to educate themselves on the facts... such as that gays raise children just as well as straights, then those people are irrelevant and I couldn't give one iota of caring to what they think.
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a very small percentage raise children but the fact remains they can not produce them.
 
Navy Pride said:
a very small percentage raise children but the fact remains they can not produce them.
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A larger and larger percentage raise children, and do so quite successfully. And procreation is irrelevant to marriage.
 
Navy Pride said:
Procreation is why most people get married CC.
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No it isn't. Many people would not divorce their spouse or even get an annulment if they find out they cannot have children with that person. In fact, there are lots of people who, nowdays, would not even call off a wedding or refuse to marry someone if they found out the two of them could not have children.

Top 10: Reasons To Get Married - AskMen

While procreation is a reason to get married, it isn't the reason most people get married.

Why Men And Women Get Married - Forbes

If it were all about procreation, people would be getting divorced or annulments due to inability to procreate much more often than what really happens.
 
Navy Pride said:
What part of "CAN'T PRODUCE THEM' do you not understand?
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What part of "this doesn't matter" do you not understand? It doesn't matter. Just like opposite sex couples who "can't produce them", if same sex couples want children, there are other methods to go about getting children to raise.
 
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