Driver records CHP officer punching woman[W:195]

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Buck Ewer said:

I'm not at all convinced that she is not injured.
Marlene Pinnock. is being held for psychiatric and physical observation and they will not even let her family see her.
CHP is saying she was not injured.

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There is no reason that her family shouldn't be able to know if she was injured, even if they can't see her while she is under psychiatric evaluation.

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Buck Ewer said:

I'm not at all convinced that she is not injured.
Marlene Pinnock. is being held for psychiatric and physical observation and they will not even let her family see her.
CHP is saying she was not injured.

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The police would never ever lie. :roll:

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roguenuke said:

There is no reason that her family shouldn't be able to know if she was injured, even if they can't see her while she is under psychiatric evaluation.

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Them pigs

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roguenuke said:

Then he did an absolutely horrid job of it since she wasn't injured by his assaults.

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Says who?

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Buck Ewer said:

Says who?

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Says how ****ing big he was.

I can break someone whose twice my size's nose in one punch and this "trained professional" couldn't do harm in all those hits?

Guess my taxes are going to ****ing waste.

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roguenuke said:

There is no reason that her family shouldn't be able to know if she was injured, even if they can't see her while she is under psychiatric evaluation.

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The only ones reporting that she is not injured is the CHP and they are insisting that they should be the only ones to do an investigation.
Sound familiar?

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Buck Ewer said:

The only ones reporting that she is not injured is the CHP and they are insisting that they should be the only ones to do an investigation.
Sound familiar?

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Where are they insisting that they be the only ones to do an investigation? Just saying they are investigating is not the same thing as insisting they should be the only ones investigating.

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radcen said:

That's great, but the person I was interacting with and I have already been through all that. I'm just trying find out if he routinely and reflexively gives suspects the same noble-sounding benefit of the doubt that he gives police officers as he is doing in this case.

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and I was mearly asking you what your stance is? Your reply is not really answering the question.

imo, there are times the police are justified, at times they are not. At times suspects deserve what they get, at times they do not deserve .

Like I said, we don't know all the facts.
The vid being shown can lead one to believe it was excessive force. There are some actions by both people hopefully the investigation can clarify.

The clip I saw on the defense lawyer news conference, imo is playing the victim card and trying to sensationalize the event.

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mike2810 said:

and I was mearly asking you what your stance is? Your reply is not really answering the question.

imo, there are times the police are justified, at times they are not. At times suspects deserve what they get, at times they do not deserve .

Like I said, we don't know all the facts.
The vid being shown can lead one to believe it was excessive force. There are some actions by both people hopefully the investigation can clarify.

The clip I saw on the defense lawyer news conference, imo is playing the victim card and trying to sensationalize the event.

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"imo, there are times the police are justified, at times they are not. At times suspects deserve what they get, at times they do not deserve ."

Agreed.

This time it was not.

But, to let you ****ing know about the Constitution, since you've demostrated an absolute lack of what it means,

The Pig was in the wrong.

Time to roast some bacon.

But let's just throw Mr. Oink in jail for a week or two without bail so he can get a taste of what he's putting others threw.

God I wish Prisoners made porners out of how Hard They **** these sacks of **** so they all know to watch themselves.

As soon as the Possible Abusers Abuse, they themselves should be Abused.

Checks and Balances and All, amirite or Am I ****ing Right?

Oh sorry, you'll figure a way out of it.

On a Random thought would it be illegal for me to videotape an Ex/Current Pig in Jail getting his Ass Gangraped and sending it to all current "police""men" (if you can call such craven pussilanimous recreants men) me, and myself, in jail? Or do I just need to apply for a pornography license?

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apdst said:

How do you know the threat was gone?

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She had stopped resisting. SHe was completely defensive.

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Lursa said:

She had stopped resisting. SHe was completely defensive.

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No no.

Her skin complexion didn't change when she was getting her face beat in, thus she was still a threat as an "Aggressive Nigger."

Where's mine and my friends's guns? Oh right, they're willing and ready to go.

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Goshin said:

I watched the video, finally (had trouble getting it to load).


She was resisting in some manner... I saw her hands come up, looked like she was trying to push him off.


He did indeed punch the **** out of her... hard to justify in an absence of weapons or more effective resistance than appeared to be shown... but like others I wonder what exactly happened before the vid starts.

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No one but an unconscious/dead person lies there and lets someone beat them in the face without putting up defensive measures, esp to protect their face.

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The Mark said:

Edit: There's also the whole question/subject of job stress and it's impact on officers. I would bet you that some good officers have "snapped" and done something bad. I can only imagine how stressful a police officer's job is.

The problem is that preventing such requires good mental health care, and in many cases the culture of a police department (and indeed, the country) does not really support that.

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:lamo

Excuses, Excuses.

My job is so hard! So much harder than a ****ing Coal Miners'!

Those that "Snap" should be put on Death Row so the rest of the Pinkboy Fancyboys learn to control themselves.

"The problem is that preventing such requires good mental health care, and in many cases the culture of a police department (and indeed, the country) does not really support that."

Yay! More excuses for the POLICE! What's next, their uniforms make Community Policing IMPOSSIBLE? Jesus, is there no end?

It's time to load up the guns and take care of the pieces of ****, oink, oink, ourselves.

God, do I support the Bloody Anti-Government Protests.

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mike2810 said:

Are you convinced trying to convince me of something with your rant.:mrgreen:

(political lean noted).

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I'm glad to see you ignore sense for Partisanism!

You're a credit to your Right Side! (Sarcasm is indeed there, dumbass. Run and tell your Conservative Badmins, you know it's the Only way you can win an argument with me Historically.)

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Buddha C said:

:lamo

Excuses, Excuses.

My job is so hard! So much harder than a ****ing Coal Miners'!

Those that "Snap" should be put on Death Row so the rest of the Pinkboy Fancyboys learn to control themselves.

"The problem is that preventing such requires good mental health care, and in many cases the culture of a police department (and indeed, the country) does not really support that."

Yay! More excuses for the POLICE! What's next, their uniforms make Community Policing IMPOSSIBLE? Jesus, is there no end?

It's time to load up the guns and take care of the pieces of ****, oink, oink, ourselves.

God, do I support the Bloody Anti-Government Protests.

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It's not an excuse, it's a cause, in theory.

Which only goes to show my point about a culture that does not support proper mental health care is valid, actually, so thanks for that.


Knock it off with the idiot anti-police act.

Or post some links to proof that police are as bad as you seem to think they are.

I am somewhere between these people are all animals and we should fire them all and this is an isolated incident and should be treated as such. I personally believe our police have been given too much lead. They need to be reigned in, and it may be time for troopers to wear video cameras.

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Buddha C said:

What? Do you mean most are good? In my own personal Latino experience most of em are pieces of ****. Are you white per chance or have some statistic? Just wondering, personal experience can be misleading.

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Irony.

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Buddha C said:

No no.

Her skin complexion didn't change when she was getting her face beat in, thus she was still a threat as an "Aggressive Nigger."

Where's mine and my friends's guns? Oh right, they're willing and ready to go.

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It is a strange commentary on modern American radicalism that the majority of self labeled Communists also hate the same police state that is required to enforce a communist state....

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I want to say that I am not condoning the officers actions here, but we only see a portion of the entire event. The report says that the woman was taken to the hospital not only for physical treatment, but for mental evaluation as well. Most people judging the officers actions based on an edited bit of video, have NO idea what it is to deal with mentally ill people, and just how dangerous it is.

The woman looked like she had some size to her, and could have been assaulting the CHP officer before the altercation that was caught on camera. She clearly refused orders to stop, and even when taken to the ground she remained on her back, and was not allowing herself to be handcuffed.

Cops have to do a horribly difficult job, and deal with all sorts of people, and situations that other scrutinize in many cases without the relevant information. They are outnumbered, and deal with nearly every situation from a routine traffic stop, to a full blown armed felon fleeing...And in far too many cases are jaded pretty quickly by their job.

I agree with routine, and consistent mental health exams for police, that should be ongoing, and indicators of potential danger signs identified. Most rational people don't get themselves into situations where it would escalate to this point, but with that said, submitting to every command without question is also disturbing.

We should not be having to make the choice between our physical safety, and questioning the actions of an individual officer either. We don't live in a police state, (as much as the argument to the opposite would have us believe). We have laws in our society, and need good people to do these jobs professionally. This officer seemingly lost his cool, but without knowing the entire story, I'd be hard pressed to pass judgement.

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j-mac said:

Cops have to do a horribly difficult job, and deal with all sorts of people, and situations that other scrutinize in many cases without the relevant information. They are outnumbered, and deal with nearly every situation from a routine traffic stop, to a full blown armed felon fleeing...And in far too many cases are jaded pretty quickly by their job.

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Sorry, not good enough. You are either able to do your job correctly or you should find another line of work. I was a machinist most of my life. If the boss assigned me to do some machining on a part that cost $30,000. For me to make a mistake and expect him to overlook it would have been ridiculous.

It was understood, if I machined the part, I was responsible for the result. Saying I'm sorry would not have been good enough for me not to face some type of disciplinary action, up to and including termination.

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Buddha C said:

We should line up all the police officers, shoot them and start from scratch.

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What kind of ridiculous thing is this? The police may have problems, but shooting them? What kind of idiotic comment is this. Say fire them and start from scratch, there is absolutely no need to suggest mass murder because some police officers have issues in the way they are policing.

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Buddha C said:

No no.

Her skin complexion didn't change when she was getting her face beat in, thus she was still a threat as an "Aggressive Nigger."

Where's mine and my friends's guns? Oh right, they're willing and ready to go.

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Do not respond to me in such an offensive manner.

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roguenuke said:

That isn't exactly what was claimed. She was initially being physically restrained for not only her safety, but the safety of those others driving on the freeway. She was walking on the side of the freeway and had already crossed lines of traffic on the onramp to reach the freeway shoulder, where she obviously appeared to plan to walk on, if not to actually go onto the freeway itself. The officer grabbed her to keep her off the freeway. She started fighting back.

I can't say whether the punching was excessive or not, especially given that she received no injuries from them, according to the hospital report, so apparently the officer either a) didn't get many if any to actually connect or b) he was pulling those punches to a high degree. But she was resisting him, even after the punches stopped. That isn't necessarily enough to justify the amount of punches, but it is a possible reason for them.

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I'm not sure how this lady didn't receive injuries from this assault. In fact, I'm amazed. As far as the resistance she put up- certainly not enough to justify this attack. If anything, imo it looked like a feeble attempt at self defense. I don't understand why a man, trained as a police officer, would need to physically attack a woman like that.

Texmex said:

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I believe this officer went way overboard.

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Tazing causes more pain and injury, yet if he tazed her we wouldn't be talking about this because we wouldn't have the image of a big white dude landing blows ona Black woman. This is all about image and perception, so this story is more about us, the news consumer, than what happened on the side of the freeway.

If I'm ever a cop I'll just taze the bitch and save myself the hassle.