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Protesters block buses carrying undocumented immigrants in California

PirateMk1 said:
You realize of course if she is still illegal that we want to send her packing.
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Well, she was naturalized many years ago now, so I guess we won't be seeing any dumbasses attempting to deport her, especially those from California.
 
Texmex said:
Well, she was naturalized many years ago now, so I guess we won't be seeing any dumbasses attempting to deport her, especially those from California.
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One less to deport. Cool. 24 million nine hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine to go.
 
The rewriting of the Immigration Control and Reform Act, and the circumstances that went into it on this thread blow my mind. Estimates for the bill were between 300,000 gaining entrance to 2.1 million. It turned into 2.7 million with the help of fraud and congress not following through on enacting the border security elements as well as a workplace enforcement. After the bill was signed, security and workplace job enforcement were cut away. Reagan did not just let in 2.7 million immigrants on a whim. He was bargaining with congress and they burnt him. No wonder no one wants to put half a bill in place with promises of the rest of the bill coming in the near future.
 
Hatuey said:
The thing is that in many cases, they become gang members themselves. The reason MS13 became so powerful in California was thanks to Reagan's refusal to deport many Salvadorean refugees in the 80s. These guys came over and had seen **** we hadn't even heard of in California. They admit it. So when we were running around shooting up each other for crack deals, they realized they were better at the violence than native Californians were. We had drive-bys, they had beheadings. Thank Republicans for making the issue worse by giving so many of them amnesty and enticing their cousins to come over. By the 90s you had Mexicans in MS13 - and those ****ers had dealt with cartels. Republicans in the 80s saw that California was overrun with scum and gave them a path to citizenship.
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I agree with everything you said here, especially the bolded part.
 
The should be sent back. Children need to be with their parents.

If we shipped out children off we would be charged with child abandonment.
 
Paxaeon said:
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I'd just as soon spend that kind of money on education
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I suppose the fact that national defense is the responsibility of the Federal government while education is a state and local responsibility is irrelevant to you?
 
AliHajiSheik said:
I suppose the fact that national defense is the responsibility of the Federal government while education is a state and local responsibility is irrelevant to you?
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jimbo said:
Actually, that does not need to happen. Don't let the plane, bus, or whatever unload. INS boards the bus, checks for necessary documents needed to enter the US. Those that have them continue on. Those that don't get refused entry.

Works that way in every country I have entered.

That's why papers are examined at the border.
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The problem here is that they are getting in BEFORE papers are checked. Once feet are on American soil, they have the right to an immigration hearing before deportation.

Personally, I just don't think it would be that hard to enforce our borders. This problem is kind of like the one in which the semi becomes stuck under a bridge. No one can figure out how to get the truck out from under the bridge until a little boy comes along with a different perspective and says, 'let some air out of the tires.' We have fleets of helicopters. I don't see why they couldn't be used to patrol our borders and just set down in front of someone crossing and hover until they are gone. Yes, it would cost a little, but how much are thousands of diseased children who need caregivers costing us? Trillions.
 
Montecresto said:
Mexicans didn't stop crossing the border illegally when this arose.
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I never said they did. But Mexicans are coming here to work. These central American people are sending children in diapers who are unaccompanied. They in no way are here to work.
 
PirateMk1 said:
One less to deport. Cool. 24 million nine hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine to go.
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A lot of them hook up with an American citizen to make it easier to naturalize. Then when they are, they dump the American.
 
avery45 said:
The should be sent back. Children need to be with their parents.

If we shipped out children off we would be charged with child abandonment.
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What kind of parent does that? I can't see that the parents would be an asset even if they came here.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
I suppose the fact that national defense is the responsibility of the Federal government while education is a state and local responsibility is irrelevant to you?
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That person clearly does not understand the finance of this country. Everything is paid for by allocations from the local, state, and federal budgets. We have no allocation in any of those for babysitting.
 
americanwoman said:
Are you sure this isn't the result of decades and decades of failed enfrorcement of immigration laws and previous amnesty or do you really believe it is due to the encouragement of Obama?
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Yes, because they are just that evil. Next question.
 
HenryChinaski said:
The most cost effective approach is just to let them in, with conditions. Just as Eisenhower did. Ike didn't simply try a border-block approach. We need High-skilled immigrants as they're proven entrepreneurs and business makers. But we also need low-skilled immigrants.
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why do we NEED low-skill immigrants?
it is my understanding the USA has LOTS of low-skill citizens
 
More. Look at the numbers here. Our foster care system can't keep up with the need in THIS country. Where are we going to get 80,000 families to care for these children?


(CNN) -- The national controversy over a surge of Central American immigrants illegally crossing the U.S. border established a new battleground this week in a Southern California small town where angry crowds thwarted detained migrants from entering their community.

The sentiment carried over to a raucous Wednesday night meeting at a Murrieta high school auditorium. Border patrol and immigration officials got an earful.

"This is an invasion," attendee Heidi Klute said before a full house. "Why isn't the National Guard stopping them from coming in?"
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Authorities estimate 60,000 to 80,000 children without parents will cross the border this year in what the White House has called an "immediate humanitarian crisis."
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Showdown over immigration: 'This is an invasion' - CNN.com
 
Maenad said:
The problem here is that they are getting in BEFORE papers are checked. Once feet are on American soil, they have the right to an immigration hearing before deportation.

Personally, I just don't think it would be that hard to enforce our borders. This problem is kind of like the one in which the semi becomes stuck under a bridge. No one can figure out how to get the truck out from under the bridge until a little boy comes along with a different perspective and says, 'let some air out of the tires.' We have fleets of helicopters. I don't see why they couldn't be used to patrol our borders and just set down in front of someone crossing and hover until they are gone. Yes, it would cost a little, but how much are thousands of diseased children who need caregivers costing us? Trillions.
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It's my understanding that these kids are not swimming the river, but are being brought in in busses, and taken to temporary facilities, where they are then moved to other facilities or processed and sent to relatives till their hearing. Right.

I could be wrong. Either way, it's a simple matter to put a stop to it. The administration chooses not to do it.

This situation was planned. Only one group could have done the planning. I just don't know why.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
I'll take that as a yes.
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The US does not have a budget for babysitting. And as our military bases are turned into such facilities, our national security is being weakened.
 
Maenad said:
The US does not have a budget for babysitting. And as our military bases are turned into such facilities, our national security is being weakened.
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That's not the part of this issue that bothers me. They are here and in custody and they are trying to find a place to put them. Heck, I suppose there will be more armed soldiers on those bases than there usually are.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
That's not the part of this issue that bothers me. They are here and in custody and they are trying to find a place to put them. Heck, I suppose there will be more armed soldiers on those bases than there usually are.
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Here's a thought. The administration is leasing or attempting to lease facilities all over the US to house these illegals. No area wants them, and the locals are refusing accommodations. Why not lease facilities in El Salvador, Haiti, Dominica, and send these illegals home so they be near their parents?
 
Maenad said:
The US does not have a budget for babysitting. And as our military bases are turned into such facilities, our national security is being weakened.
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Our national security is not being weakened, Jesus, such hyperbole.
 
Montecresto said:
Our national security is not being weakened, Jesus, such hyperbole.
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Really, and when our soldiers start getting sick like Border Patrol has. Of course, this weakens national security. Military bases are not babysitting instillations.
 
jimbo said:
Here's a thought. The administration is leasing or attempting to lease facilities all over the US to house these illegals. No area wants them, and the locals are refusing accommodations. Why not lease facilities in El Salvador, Haiti, Dominica, and send these illegals home so they be near their parents?
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They all have to have an immigration hearing first. The immigration courts are already backlogged. It will take years. In the meantime enough unaccompanied children are coming in to fill up an entire mid sized city. There is no plan B. There isn't even a ****ing plan A.
 
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