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Gotcha. You can't provide a motive for your nutjob conspiracy theory. That's all I wanted to know.

No, that's not what you should take from my post. For a final bit of clarity, I wrote that I'm not motivated to engage obtuse posters, and as such, you provide zero motivation to engage in any additional effort.

Take from that what you will. :peace
 
No, that's not what you should take from my post. For a final bit of clarity, I wrote that I'm not motivated to engage obtuse posters, and as such, you provide zero motivation to engage in any additional effort.

Take from that what you will. :peace

I've asked you that simple little question at least three times in this thread and you dodged it every time. So I'll take from your latest dodge post that you have no motive for the insane conspiracy theory you put forth.
 
I've asked you that simple little question at least three times in this thread and you dodged it every time. So I'll take from your latest dodge post that you have no motive for the insane conspiracy theory you put forth.

I haven't dodged you. I've politely ignored your obtuse directives. If you can't figure out why immigration issues would benefit the President and his party in an election year, there is little help I can provide.
 
Did Cheney say it?

The embarrassment of Cheney's failed expectations will only be masked by your tongue and cheek hyperbole. I see you didn't put that in quotes. At any rate, Cheney's expectations that we would be welcomed as liberators, with all the fanfare that that conjures up, was dashed, smashed, and rendered sour. Since the destruction of so much Iraqi infrastructure during the "shock and awe" phase through today, Iraq is a tattered and torn country now, parts of it under siege by IS, the sectarian sort of violence where hatred and bitterness runs very deep. It boggles my mind that anybody, left, right or independent thinks anything about Iraq is an accomplishment. Our government is destroying the ME, whether by design or repetitive incompetence by multiple administrations. Only the terminally moronic think that the ME is a better place after four decades of failed US policy.
 
I know "Bush ****ed up" he went to war with Clinton's military.

Clintons military was fine. It's warmongering presidents that need large military's. build it up if your going to fight.
 
Clintons military was fine. It's warmongering presidents that need large military's. build it up if your going to fight.

:laughat: >"Clintons military was fine"<

Big Bush (41) went to war with Reagan's :ind: military and was able to put 500,000 boots on the ground and Tailhook conventions were ****ing fun to attend.

Little Bush (43) went to war with Clinton's military and could only put 200,000 boots on the ground and Tailhook conventions had become a drag (no pun intended) to attend.
 
:laughat: >"Clintons military was fine"<

Big Bush (41) went to war with Reagan's :ind: military and was able to put 500,000 boots on the ground and Tailhook conventions were ****ing fun to attend.

Little Bush (43) went to war with Clinton's military and could only put 200,000 boots on the ground and Tailhook conventions had become a drag (no pun intended) to attend.

We didn't need to go to war. We almost never NEED to go to war. These wars are hugely unnecessary. Clinton's army was fine.
 
We didn't need to go to war. We almost never NEED to go to war. These wars are hugely unnecessary. Clinton's army was fine.

President Clinton's Secretary of State, Madeleine K. Albright. "What's the point of having this superb military you're always talking about if we can't use it?"
 
The embarrassment of Cheney's failed expectations will only be masked by your tongue and cheek hyperbole. I see you didn't put that in quotes. At any rate, Cheney's expectations that we would be welcomed as liberators, with all the fanfare that that conjures up, was dashed, smashed, and rendered sour. Since the destruction of so much Iraqi infrastructure during the "shock and awe" phase through today, Iraq is a tattered and torn country now, parts of it under siege by IS, the sectarian sort of violence where hatred and bitterness runs very deep. It boggles my mind that anybody, left, right or independent thinks anything about Iraq is an accomplishment. Our government is destroying the ME, whether by design or repetitive incompetence by multiple administrations. Only the terminally moronic think that the ME is a better place after four decades of failed US policy.

I was mistaken about the Cheney quote. I was actually thinking about the quote you mentioned. Thanks.
 
President Clinton's Secretary of State, Madeleine K. Albright. "What's the point of having this superb military you're always talking about if we can't use it?"

Yeah. I remember that, 'twas really ****ing stupid too! And was straight to Jeffersons point why not to have one.
 
Here's something to consider.

I'm sure by now that the people of Central America and Mexico know we're not too fond of them coming into our Country illegally.

Enough has been said to relay the message to them that their violation of our laws winds up putting a huge amount of stress on the budgets of local communities, Cities and States.

But, they dont care and are still coming.

Whats that tell you about the nature of these people ?

By nature they're lawless, and selfish and are willing to compound the problems we already have by continuing to stream over.

They don't care about the impact on local schools, health care services and city budgets.

They expect to be cared for, they expect legal rights and they expect access to our social services.

If you ask me its the worst type of immigrant. One that shows up expectant, dependant, uneducated and without concern for those who already live here.
 
Here's something to consider.

I'm sure by now that the people of Central America and Mexico know we're not too fond of them coming into our Country illegally.

Enough has been said to relay the message to them that their violation of our laws winds up putting a huge amount of stress on the budgets of local communities, Cities and States.

But, they dont care and are still coming.

Whats that tell you about the nature of these people ?

By nature they're lawless, and selfish and are willing to compound the problems we already have by continuing to stream over.

They don't care about the impact on local schools, health care services and city budgets.

They expect to be cared for, they expect legal rights and they expect access to our social services.

If you ask me its the worst type of immigrant. One that shows up expectant, dependant, uneducated and without concern for those who already live here.

Oh for Pete's sake! I don't want people to come here illegally any more than you do. And I think its past time to secure our border, and Obama could hit a home run by being the first president to do so. But, you go walk a mile in these people's shoes and see if you wouldn't risk entering America illegally yourself to get out of the hell hole you live in.
 
I haven't dodged you. I've politely ignored your obtuse directives. If you can't figure out why immigration issues would benefit the President and his party in an election year, there is little help I can provide.

Apparently you can't provide any help in deciphering your crackpot conspiracy theory because you won't explain it. How does children from El Salvador flooding our borders help Obama in 2014?
 
Oh for Pete's sake! I don't want people to come here illegally any more than you do. And I think its past time to secure our border, and Obama could hit a home run by being the first president to do so. But, you go walk a mile in these people's shoes and see if you wouldn't risk entering America illegally yourself to get out of the hell hole you live in.


Oh enough demagoguery, ok ?

By your standards we should not only allow illegals from Mexico and central America to cross into our Country illegally but we should take in every refuge from every hell hole in existence.

These people may be from run down corrupt third world countries, but they're also people that have no concern for the communities they're dropped off in.

They're dependant and selfish and typically uneducated.
 
Liberals, not unlike children, simply think there is an unlimited supply of goods and services that will remain constant, no matter who the hell they vote for or what policies are enacted. They are the most dangerous of citizens, voting without regard to future consequences, as long as they stay true to personal beliefs(live and let live, if it doesn't effect me, etc.) they are perfectly happy to let the world fall into chaos. What times we live in.
 
Oh enough demagoguery, ok ?

By your standards we should not only allow illegals from Mexico and central America to cross into our Country illegally but we should take in every refuge from every hell hole in existence.

These people may be from run down corrupt third world countries, but they're also people that have no concern for the communities they're dropped off in.

They're dependant and selfish and typically uneducated.

How in the world did my statement that its past time that our border be secured, and Obama could hit a home run being the first to do it, equate in you're mind to me being in favor of allowing all illegals in???
 
Here's something to consider.

I'm sure by now that the people of Central America and Mexico know we're not too fond of them coming into our Country illegally.

Enough has been said to relay the message to them that their violation of our laws winds up putting a huge amount of stress on the budgets of local communities, Cities and States.

But, they dont care and are still coming.

Whats that tell you about the nature of these people ?

By nature they're lawless, and selfish and are willing to compound the problems we already have by continuing to stream over.

They don't care about the impact on local schools, health care services and city budgets.

They expect to be cared for, they expect legal rights and they expect access to our social services.

If you ask me its the worst type of immigrant. One that shows up expectant, dependant, uneducated and without concern for those who already live here.

There's scuttlebutt that in collusion with the Obama White House that it was UniVision who was behind telling Central Americans to hightail it to El Norte and Obama will not deport you and will see that you are transported to the neighborhood of your choice and while waiting for amnesty you can suck off the stupid Gringo taxpayers.
 
Liberals, not unlike children, simply think there is an unlimited supply of goods and services that will remain constant, no matter who the hell they vote for or what policies are enacted. They are the most dangerous of citizens, voting without regard to future consequences, as long as they stay true to personal beliefs(live and let live, if it doesn't effect me, etc.) they are perfectly happy to let the world fall into chaos. What times we live in.

They are a plague on every democracy.
 
Apparently you can't provide any help in deciphering your crackpot conspiracy theory because you won't explain it. How does children from El Salvador flooding our borders help Obama in 2014?

Run along kid, your insanity is getting a bit much. Perhaps you can latch on to someone else in your search for recognition. I've made my point enough times. :peace
 
Don't know what to think about this.
These are children, and they're being used by others to turn a profit. In the end they become the victims no matter who is at fault for their migration.

Normally I lean far right, but in this case (with the children that are here) we should keep them. Followed by sealing our border with fences, the national guard, and whatever state of the art electronic doohickey that can do the job. Stop all financial support to these countries, including Mexico....and change the friggin law.

This is bad and it doesn't help any political party.
 
There is a difference in telling a lie and making a mistake.

Yes, there is and we can all make mistakes. That's why it's always wise to do a fact check before we claim to 'remember' something about those with whom we disagree..
 
Yes, there is and we can all make mistakes. That's why it's always wise to do a fact check before we claim to 'remember' something about those with whom we disagree..

Are you through, dad?
 
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