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Obama to take executive action on immigration

Obama is pretty much just daring congress to impeach him. He knows good and well he doesn't have the constitutional grant to do the things he's doing, but is doing it anyway. So much for his oath. This puts him in the running for worst president ever.

Heya CB :2wave: He thinks he has nothing to lose.....They should call him on it and finalize the Papers.

Lets not forget he HAS increased the Risk of Harm on all overseas Assets and our people.

I noticed he tried to put some bass in his voice when he said this today. Its all bluff.....now lets see what the Repubs so called leaders will do.
 
But... But... OBAMA!!!
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Obama is a fascist corporatist, much like the presidents before him.
 
Are you telling me you don't remember the bi-partisan Sen. Rubio bill passed one year ago? :lamo

Nope I don't. At least not by that name. Perhaps you can give some details?

What would you do with Immigration as speaker, besides the nothing Boehner has promised for the rest of the year ? :peace

Besides the nothing that Boehner is doing? I'd advocate that our laws need to start being enforced and propose laws that make it harder for illegal aliens to live here. Sure as hell wouldn't allow anything that leads to amensty.

You are a Minority in your own Republican party .

Not in the Republican party...sorry. :shrug:
 
Obama is pretty much just daring congress to impeach him. He knows good and well he doesn't have the constitutional grant to do the things he's doing, but is doing it anyway. So much for his oath. This puts him in the running for worst president ever.

He's on par with Bush. But don't hold your breath thinking Congress will really do anything beyond saber rattling. Both sides of the Republocrats are equally crooked, they don't want actual responsibility being held to them.
 
Then why try to make the claim that we're talking about the amount of EO's vs other Presidents?
WE as in me are talking about the amount of EO's, not YOU--
you are trying to make an argument about content--
going where none have gone before.

I did not say you were talking of the number of EO's--I said I was--Please try to keep up Kal.
Or do you like playing the strawman game?
Is this where you go when you can't debate?
Then argue on that point.
Don't try to side step by introducing irrelevent material and attempt to shift the blame.
At this point I have nowhere to go wiith the way you're posting at me.
I do have a way to counter it though.
Good-bye .
 
He's on par with Bush. But don't hold your breath thinking Congress will really do anything beyond saber rattling. Both sides of the Republocrats are equally crooked, they don't want actual responsibility being held to them.

It's not just that, it's the bath they took last time when they impeached Slick Willie. Funny thing about that, the original final straw they went after Willie on, the Whitewater scandal, it was all Hillary, who will now be a candidate for POTUS.
 
So you state that we will not act on the current problems and force the President to make XOs that deal with the House's abdication.

It matters not whether the Senate/House does anything or not. No POTUS has the power to make or write or ignore laws already passed by the Senate/House.

dismissed for what it might be.

Sorry, forgot that you're still wearing rose colored glasses.

I have a good memory and have never seen a speaker abdicate to a TEA party.

Considering the Tea Party has only been around Since Obama was elected I would imagine that you haven't.

Far too many since President Theodore Roosevelt first proposed it--but as you said to me prior, irrelevant to the thread
Not only irrelevant to the thread but a cheap shot on ACA designed to pull what from me Kal?

1: Take what you will of it.
2: Irrelevent to the thread, but relevent to your question. You asked, I answered. Sorry that you don't like the answer.

So deport them after their service right, since you didn't answer the question ?

Again, they should not even be let into the Service if they are here illegally. IE: if the laws were followed and they were deported they wouldn't be serving in our Military to begin with. Sorry that I wasn't clear enough for you.
 
It's not just that, it's the bath they took last time when they impeached Slick Willie. Funny thing about that, the original final straw they went after Willie on, the Whitewater scandal, it was all Hillary, who will now be a candidate for POTUS.

By current political standards, Nixon was a saint. But we don't hold politicians accountable, and they won't do it themselves. This is what happens when you let the fox run loose in the hen house.
 
WE as in me are talking about the amount of EO's, not YOU--
you are trying to make an argument about content--
going where none have gone before.
I did not say you were talking of the number of EO's--I said I was--Please try to keep up Kal.

Wow...talk about spin. You were the one that tried to imply that people were trying to only talk about the amount. Otherwise what is the point in posting what you did? Absolutely no point to it what so ever unless you're trying to claim something that just isn't happening.

Is this where you go when you can't debate?

Nope, its where I go when someone attempts a strawman.

At this point I have nowhere to go wiith the way you're posting at me.
I do have a way to counter it though.
Good-bye .

:2wave: Bye!
 
Nope I don't. At least not by that name. Perhaps you can give some details?
Are you serious that you don't know of Sen. Rubio's bi-partisan Immigration bill that passed one year ago?



Besides the nothing that Boehner is doing? I'd advocate that our laws need to start being enforced and propose laws that make it harder for illegal aliens to live here. Sure as hell wouldn't allow anything that leads to amensty.
Obama is known as the Deporter-in-Chief and has infuritaed Hispanic American groups.
Why do you ignore this as far as enforcing laws?
And now you're against his XO to move assets to the border to enforce the laws.
As always, you guys are for something until Obama does it--then you're against it.

Not in the Republican party...sorry. :shrug:
All of your posting is that of a conservative Republican if not a TEApartier.
Why do you folks keep denying who you are ?
 
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Again, they should not even be let into the Service if they are here illegally. IE: if the laws were followed and they were deported they wouldn't be serving in our Military to begin with. Sorry that I wasn't clear enough for you.

You're still dodging the question Kal because said soldier is already in the service.
Why can't you answer a question that is actually dealing with the reality of the situation, which Obama will do tomorrow by making them citizens .
 
Wow...talk about spin. You were the one that tried to imply that people were trying to only talk about the amount. Otherwise what is the point in posting what you did? Absolutely no point to it what so ever unless you're trying to claim something that just isn't happening.
So you discount that the ACTUAL number of XO's has anything to do with anything.

I am now advising Obama to catch up with Bush-43 and Reagan.

Since Boehner has stated very little will be done until the elections, he can now get busy with his lawsuits .



Nope, its where I go when someone attempts a strawman.
We'll see what others think of that
 
So you discount that the ACTUAL number of XO's has anything to do with anything.

I could really care less about the number of EO's any President has made. I care about content.

I am now advising Obama to catch up with Bush-43 and Reagan.

So long as they are lawful...Ok?

Since Boehner has stated very little will be done until the elections, he can now get busy with his lawsuits .

Hope he wins.

We'll see what others think of that

Ok?
 
You're still dodging the question Kal because said soldier is already in the service.
Why can't you answer a question that is actually dealing with the reality of the situation, which Obama will do tomorrow by making them citizens .

Yes. Deport them. Happy? It's what I've been saying the whole time. Reading comprehension is a must on any debate forum.
 
Are you serious that you don't know of Sen. Rubio's bi-partisan Immigration bill that passed one year ago?

How many times do I have to say it?


Obama is known as the Deporter-in-Chief and has infuritaed Hispanic American groups.

Another talking point that has been debunked many times. Obama has inflated his numbers by using things that have never before been used before. Its been said enough times around this forum. Look it up yourself.

Why do you ignore this as far as enforcing laws?

I'm not. Look above.

And now you're against his XO to move assets to the border to enforce the laws.

Enforce? Or hand out bus tickets?



As always, you guys are for something until Obama does it--then you're against it.

When Obama actually does something right I'll stand up and applaud him. I haven't seen that happen yet. And he's given me no reason what so ever to believe that he's going to actually enforce immigration law.

All of your posting is that of a conservative Republican if not a TEApartier.

No, actually its not. If it was then I'd be against gay marriage and abortion. ;)

Why do you folks keep denying who you are ?

Sorry Nimby, but one subject does not make one a Republican, or Democrat, or any other political party that you can think of.
 
This is tough because I agree with both sides on this.

There should be laws that go through Congress. I agree. However, the current bunch of chumps there won't do anything about it.

So if the majority of the constituents don't want it, then the President should do it anyway?

Does that make any sense to you?
 
Yeah, he's down to his last year and a half in the WH. Watch them Executive Orders start flying. If they don't impeach that sorry SoB soon this country may never recover.

:roll:
 
It seems that one man's dictator is another man's effective leader.

For example, the folks who are whining, "Dictator! Dictator!," have no real big problem with the GOP dominated congress that dictates a stagnant, filibustering, stonewalling agenda that dictates that the sitting president is unable to carry out any and all measures he was voted into office to do and carry out the majority will of America, who voted him into office, twice.

It's kinda weak if you ask me but whatever. Myself, I'm glad to see Obama growing a nutsack and telling these obstructionists to take a hike. It's long overdue.

Just my two-cents though.

That is a huge assumption on your part.

The members of Congress also represent people and they don't want this bill. Who do you tell to **** off?
 
How many times do I have to say it?




Another talking point that has been debunked many times. Obama has inflated his numbers by using things that have never before been used before. Its been said enough times around this forum. Look it up yourself.



I'm not. Look above.



Enforce? Or hand out bus tickets?





When Obama actually does something right I'll stand up and applaud him. I haven't seen that happen yet. And he's given me no reason what so ever to believe that he's going to actually enforce immigration law.



No, actually its not. If it was then I'd be against gay marriage and abortion. ;)



Sorry Nimby, but one subject does not make one a Republican, or Democrat, or any other political party that you can think of.


What source would you believe that would indicate Obama is leading in deportations?
 
What the hell did Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon.............................do to secure the borders???
 
What the hell did Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon.............................do to secure the borders???

Don't know about the others but Reagan did try, even with his amnesty he tried to get laws passed that targeted securing borders and getting rid of illegals. In fact that was the ONLY reason that he signed the Amnesty, because he was promised that our borders and the new laws which he said MUST be in his amnesty bill (and got) would be enforced. Silly him for believing that future politicians would actually keep that promise. :/
 
Don't know about the others but Reagan did try, even with his amnesty he tried to get laws passed that targeted securing borders and getting rid of illegals. In fact that was the ONLY reason that he signed the Amnesty, because he was promised that our borders and the new laws which he said MUST be in his amnesty bill (and got) would be enforced. Silly him for believing that future politicians would actually keep that promise. :/

Well there you have it. It's a systemic problem, politicians on neither side are motivated to secure our borders. Big business has recognised the benefits of importing cheap Mexican labor since that big importation during WW2 to make up for labor shortages. It also drives down wages for American citizens, an added benefit for big business, and both parties pander to big business. No presidents, no congress has done anything to truly secure our borders, nor will they.
 
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