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Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge[W:513,870]

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Good for them; I like the union decision even better.
 
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I'll be interested to see the voting makeup and the justification. I'm also wondering if this will have an impact on a company providing services as well.
 
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Excellent. I'm glad to see both this decision, and the one regarding union dues wrt the health care issue.
 
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Great news !

Saw some Democrat Politician hack on Chris Wallace's show yesterday.

He equated a HL win to " discrimination ".

Unbelievable.
 
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Hopefully, this will be the first major straw to break this bloated, ineffective camel's back.

Far and wide, you hear the massive complaints over the skyrocketing costs and ruination that Obamacare is causing. Simple doctor's visits have become costly headaches for millions upon millions of people.

And still, the sign-ups are sparce and consist of scarcely few healthy people.
 
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This is what Obama gets for trying to compromise. He should have gone with true Socialized Medicine, which would have avoided this situation.
 
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From the AP:

The justices' 5-4 decision Monday is the first time that the high court has ruled that profit-seeking businesses can hold religious views under federal law. And it means the Obama administration must search for a different way of providing free contraception to women who are covered under objecting companies' health insurance plans. News from The Associated Press
 
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I'll be interested to see the voting makeup and the justification. I'm also wondering if this will have an impact on a company providing services as well.

5-4 split.
 
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This is what Obama gets for trying to compromise. He should have gone with true Socialized Medicine, which would have avoided this situation.

That would have been even a sweeter rejection by the courts. And this is what Democrats get for shoving legislation down Americas throats. Obamacare was held up by the SCOTUS only to have it's legs broken. Limp baby limp!
 
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I think this decision is only limited to closely held corperations like hobby-lobby, which is a family owned buissness.
 
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5-4 split.

Seems about right. Now waiting for the justification from both sides on their views of it. On the base, I think there is great concern on how far that religious freedom of a company can go. If there is a Jehova Witness run company, can they outlaw paying for certain procedures, etc. And does a company now have the right to not serve people based on religious holdings?
 
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http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-354_olp1.pdf

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The Government has failed to satisfy RFRA’s least restrictive means standard. HHS has not shown that it lacks other means of achieving its desired goal without imposing a substantial burden on the exercise of religion. The Government could, e.g., assume the cost of providing the four contraceptives to women unable to obtain coverage due to their employers’ religious objections. Or it could extend the accommodation that HHS has already established for religious nonprofit organizations to non-profit employers with religious objections to the contraceptive mandate. That accommodation does not impinge on the plaintiffs’ religious beliefs that providing insurance coverage for the contraceptives at issue here violates their religion and it still serves HHS’s stated interests. Pp. 40–45.
 
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That would have been even a sweeter rejection by the courts. And this is what Democrats get for shoving legislation down Americas throats. Obamacare was held up by the SCOTUS only to have it's legs broken. Limp baby limp!

I think that is a bit of an exageration that Obamacare's legs are broken. We will be reading about court cases for different aspects of Obamacare for years.
 
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Hopefully, this will be the first major straw to break this bloated, ineffective camel's back.

Not really at all. All this ruling states is that contraception is not paid for by a family owned company. It isn't going to get rid of Obamacare.
 
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This is what Obama gets for trying to compromise
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BWAAAHHAHHAHHA
He should have gone with true Socialized Medicine, which would have avoided this situation.
So, other than a couple of candid-caught-on-camera moments, why did he feel he had to lie about what he really wanted?
HERE ... Let me start you off ... because he knew if he told the truth it never would have <you complete it>
.....
 
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OK, so I'm seeing pretty much every where on the internet from here to Facebook that HL 'defeated Obamacare.' Not so. Obamacare remains intact. This decision merely holds that the owner of a business cannot be forced to pay for something he/she finds morally abhorrent. So, in the coming days, we will see how all this plays out in terms of benefits for HL employees and others. Will some business step out and claim that it finds any type of medical treatment abhorrent? " It ain't over till it's over." (Yogi Berra)

It's just started.
 
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This is what Obama gets for trying to compromise. He should have gone with true Socialized Medicine, which would have avoided this situation.

ARGH !!!! :eek:


I still like your artwork though.. :mrgreen:

Have a great day A

Thom Paine
 
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Not really at all. All this ruling states is that contraception is not paid for by a family owned company. It isn't going to get rid of Obamacare.

I agree. This is a win for constitutional rights but not a breach in the hull of Obamacare.
 
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Not really at all. All this ruling states is that contraception is not paid for by a family owned company. It isn't going to get rid of Obamacare.

Nothing will get rid of Obamacare. But this decision certainly impedes it.
 
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I think that is a bit of an exageration that Obamacare's legs are broken. We will be reading about court cases for different aspects of Obamacare for years.

You're certainly free to have an opinion but I don't think it's an exaggeration at all.
 
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I sniger from my european thrown of condoms.
 
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I still like your artwork though.. :mrgreen:

You just made my day! :peace
 
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Nothing will get rid of Obamacare. But this decision certainly impedes it.

I don't think it impedes it that much. Let's face it, in the gran scheme of things contraception wasn't going to break the bank. There are far more expensive parts of Obamacare that are not going to go away and this hardly impedes it in a significant way IMO.
 
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Healthcare at this stage essentially just needs to be turned into public utility. The insurance companies are doing nothing to aid the system and just make it slower and more expensive. If we want true universal healthcare, it needs to circumvent the insurance companies all together. Public utility funded by taxes. We all pay, we all get access.
 
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