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Supreme Court says public sector union of home care workers can't force nonmembers to

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MrVicchio said:
So drunk on union lies are you. Michigan did this to, freed the home healthcare folks from union chicanery.
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You don't even know what you are arguing. I was referring to the funds used to pay these state workers which btw are the same in all states.
 
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apdst said:
Pam Harris was being shaken down. She isn't a government employee, nor a member of the union. What claim does the union have to her son's social security. The union, via executive order signed by the governer of Illinois were literally stealing from a handicapped person. What kind of dirbag does it take to do something like that?
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Um, Pam Harris gets paid through the state as a caretaker.
 
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ocean515 said:
Actually, it's been shown the public sector unions, well in the case of California, the SEIU, don't really care about the patients involved, they are just a necessary evil. The bottom line is dues, and in California, that means over $60 million annually from IHSS workers alone.

Hopefully this ruling bankrupts the union and it's corruption, and returns the taxpayers investment in taking care of the elderly to loving support, rather than farming dying people for dollars.
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Um, those dues go toward both collective bargaining and to push for favorable legislation to continue to do so. Otherwise, people taking care of those elderly folks are going to get paid the lowest wages possible.
 
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rabbitcaebannog said:
Um, those dues go toward both collective bargaining and to push for favorable legislation to continue to do so. Otherwise, people taking care of those elderly folks are going to get paid the lowest wages possible.
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That wasn't the case before the SEIU bought into the state, so there is no reason to believe it will happen in the future now that the court appears to have ruled to stop the corrupt practice of holding health care hostage in return for dues.
 
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rabbitcaebannog said:
Out price their jobs:roll: do you even realize what these people make. I promise you they are not remotely over priced.
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Look bub, you know why companies outsource or move factories? Cause labour costs go too high.
 
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ocean515 said:
That wasn't the case before the SEIU bought into the state, so there is no reason to believe it will happen in the future now that the court appears to have ruled to stop the corrupt practice of holding health care hostage in return for dues.
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Wasn't it you that stated
In the case of California, after the legislators cashed the unions checks given to buy legislation changing the workers to state employees, the in home workers compensation did go up.
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MrVicchio said:
Look bub, you know why companies outsource or move factories? Cause labour costs go too high.
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What on earth does that have to do with this discussion!?
 
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rabbitcaebannog said:
Wasn't it you that stated
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Yes, I did write that. You stated the compensation would drop to the lowest level possible. It wasn't at the lowest level possible before the union got involved, so why would it go to the lowest level possible after people are able to opt out?
 
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ocean515 said:
Yes, I did write that. You stated the compensation would drop to the lowest level possible. It wasn't at the lowest level possible before the union got involved, so why would it go to the lowest level possible after people are able to opt out?
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Proof please.
 
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rabbitcaebannog said:
You are the one claiming they made good money prior to the union. I'll wait for your proof.
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See, the reason I did the smiley face at your demand is you can't even be honest and consistent with you posts. Why would I waste time with you?

Where did I use the term "good money" in anything I've posted? They only thing I've posted is they weren't paid the least amount. I know what they were paid. Precisely. You, on the other hand, have no clue.

I don't do hyperbole. Find someone else to educate you. I have no problem with people choosing to remain uninformed on topics they think they know about.
 
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rabbitcaebannog said:
They are both being starved of funds by the Republicans so they can become nonfunctional.
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By ''starved" you mean Unions can't force people by Law to pay for something they don't want ?
 
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rabbitcaebannog said:
Um, Pam Harris gets paid through the state as a caretaker.
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Um, no, her son recieves social security.

Either way, she's not a government employee. I'm fairly certain she would be taking care of her son, state stipend, or not.

I find it incredibly disgusting that anyone would support a shakedown like this. Thank God we live in a country where the political sheisters and their minions can't get away with it.
 
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Fenton said:
By ''starved" you mean Unions can't force people by Law to pay for something they don't want ?
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Or, pay money they don't owe, to begin with.
 
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apdst said:
Um, no, her son recieves social security.

Either way, she's not a government employee. I'm fairly certain she would be taking care of her son, state stipend, or not.

I find it incredibly disgusting that anyone would support a shakedown like this. Thank God we live in a country where the political sheisters and their minions can't get away with it.
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that is the problem i have they are not state employee's. they are taking care of friends and loved one and that state out of no where with the push from the SEIU got them all labeled as state employee's.

the same thing happened in michigan.

SEIU Membership Drops 80 Percent After Dues Skim Ends [Michigan Capitol Confidential]

the same thing is going on in IL and who knows how many other states. where people taking care of their family or friends are deemed state employee's even though they receive 0 pay or benefits from it and the people they are taking care of have to pay union dues.

biggest scam in history finally got undone. the union should be ashamed of itself for taking money from disabled and elderly people.
they will be as people in MI are launching lawsuits for union dues paid.
 
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ocean515 said:
See, the reason I did the smiley face at your demand is you can't even be honest and consistent with you posts. Why would I waste time with you?

Where did I use the term "good money" in anything I've posted? They only thing I've posted is they weren't paid the least amount. I know what they were paid. Precisely. You, on the other hand, have no clue.

I don't do hyperbole. Find someone else to educate you. I have no problem with people choosing to remain uninformed on topics they think they know about.
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I'll vote you most dishonest poster.
 
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Fenton said:
By ''starved" you mean Unions can't force people by Law to pay for something they don't want ?
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They sure don't seem to mind their wages going up. They just want someone else to pay for that perk.
 
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rabbitcaebannog said:
I'll vote you most dishonest poster.
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laughable considering you think ss checks are state paychecks.
 
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apdst said:
Um, no, her son recieves social security.

Either way, she's not a government employee. I'm fairly certain she would be taking care of her son, state stipend, or not.

I find it incredibly disgusting that anyone would support a shakedown like this. Thank God we live in a country where the political sheisters and their minions can't get away with it.
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What does her son receiving social security have anything to do with it? If she wants to take care of her son and not get paid, she certainly has a right not to get paid.

So, you would be more thankful to have these home healthcare workers get paid low wages?
 
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ludin said:
that is the problem i have they are not state employee's. they are taking care of friends and loved one and that state out of no where with the push from the SEIU got them all labeled as state employee's.

the same thing happened in michigan.

SEIU Membership Drops 80 Percent After Dues Skim Ends [Michigan Capitol Confidential]

the same thing is going on in IL and who knows how many other states. where people taking care of their family or friends are deemed state employee's even though they receive 0 pay or benefits from it and the people they are taking care of have to pay union dues.

biggest scam in history finally got undone. the union should be ashamed of itself for taking money from disabled and elderly people.
they will be as people in MI are launching lawsuits for union dues paid.
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They are getting paid.
 
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rabbitcaebannog said:
What does her son receiving social security have anything to do with it? If she wants to take care of her son and not get paid, she certainly has a right not to get paid.

So, you would be more thankful to have these home healthcare workers get paid low wages?
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She doesn't get paid! That's the part you seem to be ignoring...lol!
 
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