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Obama seeks $500M to train, equip Syrian rebels

Insulting all Americans certainly isnt going to encourage people to listen to your argument. Additionally, the West in general has had policy of intervention and destabilization for decades now. Can't pin it all on America even though y'all push America into the World Police role.

I push America into no such role, I see it as problematic. Btw, nobody here, or any political board, listens to anyone's argument. These places aren't for solving problems.
 
For decades the Fascists, Nazis, Communists and various other dictators were murdering hundreds of millions of people in China, Africa, Asia, Europe, South America and Central America. The Americans were the leaders who put an end to these international atrocities. Any 'stability' the world now enjoys is in large part due to American sacrifices and their 'incompetent' leadership.

America has supported militant Islamic groups for decades, and has brought no stability to the ME.
 
America has supported militant Islamic groups for decades, and has brought no stability to the ME.

The West and Russia have supported militant Islamic groups for decades. The goal was never stability.
 
The West and Russia have supported militant Islamic groups for decades. The goal was never stability.

And we agree. But I'm an American, I live in America, sleep in America, vote in America, pay taxes in America, as such, I have a infinitely tiny influence in America. Russian and Western citizens need to hold there leaders accountable.
 
Right! Which is why he failed in his bid for the WH. Americans didn't want their troops to still be there. See how that works?

Right up to the time when we are attacked again, by a much larger, better equipped, and more radical group with their own country. What could go wrong?
 
Right up to the time when we are attacked again, by a much larger, better equipped, and more radical group with their own country. What could go wrong?

US interference in the region has left America vulnerable to many a risk, thank failed US foreign policy in the ME for four decades!
 
US interference in the region has left America vulnerable to many a risk, thank failed US foreign policy in the ME for four decades!

Except these terrorists attack plenty of others who aren't the USA, including their own countrymen, fellow arabs, and other muslims.
 
Except these terrorists attack plenty of others who aren't the USA, including their own countrymen, fellow arabs, and other muslims.

That's not an except, its an and. There are reasons they attack those others too, although I'm mostly concerned with why they would want to attack us.
 
That's not an except, its an and. There are reasons they attack those others too, although I'm mostly concerned with why they would want to attack us.

The point is they attack anyone and everyone as they see fit. These are islamic fundamentalists-they HATE the west because of what it is. Any excuse will do, so stop supplicating to terrorists.

Spend 10 minutes on live leak or youtube, ISIS is posting new executions, torture, gun fights every hour. Maybe that will help it sink in for you-what these people are about.
 
John Wayne McLame still wants to bomb whoever.
Too bad he didn't get to start WW3 .
 
The point is they attack anyone and everyone as they see fit. These are islamic fundamentalists-they HATE the west because of what it is. Any excuse will do, so stop supplicating to terrorists.

Spend 10 minutes on live leak or youtube, ISIS is posting new executions, torture, gun fights every hour. Maybe that will help it sink in for you-what these people are about.

I'm not defending any of that, I'm saying we have interfered in the internal affairs of countries in the Middle East for a century. And at least since the Carter administration, we have supported militant Islamic groups.
 
I'm not defending any of that, I'm saying we have interfered in the internal affairs of countries in the Middle East for a century. And at least since the Carter administration, we have supported militant Islamic groups.

Thats super but it does not change the fact that they would hate us anyway-just because of who we are. Frankly, why is less my concern-and more HOW we can help expedite sending these totalitarian freaks to allah in style.

Hopefully it involves large amounts of kinetic energy.
 
Thats super but it does not change the fact that they would hate us anyway-just because of who we are. Frankly, why is less my concern-and more HOW we can help expedite sending these totalitarian freaks to allah in style.

Hopefully it involves large amounts of kinetic energy.

You don't understand what it means that every president since and including Carter has supported MILITANT ISLAMIC GROUPS! In fact, this thread is about giving them another 500 million!
 
You don't understand what it means that every president since and including Carter has supported MILITANT ISLAMIC GROUPS! In fact, this thread is about giving them another 500 million!

In the context of this conflict, I dont really care-even though Obama was aiding the same group in syria.

In any case, we need to send em to their virgins asap.
 
In the context of this conflict, I dont really care-even though Obama was aiding the same group in syria.

In any case, we need to send em to their virgins asap.

They will get the same support militant Islamic groups have always received from us, and some here have advocated giving them F-16's as well.
 
Are you referring to the shiite militias? Or ISIS?

Isis couldnt even provide the infrastructure to field an F16.

I'm referring to any and all militant Islamic groups that the last five administrations have supported, HUGELY contributing to the instability that we have today. I want American presidents to stop supporting terrorists. You on the other hand want to blame Obama. And that will never solve any problem.
 
I'm referring to any and all militant Islamic groups that the last five administrations have supported, HUGELY contributing to the instability that we have today. I want American presidents to stop supporting terrorists. You on the other hand want to blame Obama. And that will never solve any problem.

Ive spoken out numerous times about not arming any of these guys. Obama is in charge and to blame, and he needs to get out of office asap.
 
Ive spoken out numerous times about not arming any of these guys. Obama is in charge and to blame, and he needs to get out of office asap.

Then every president since Carter should have been asked to leave office as well.
 
While Putin is arming and supporting president Assad! Beautiful. The all powerful MIC, with a very large appetite.

Nothing like a good old fashion proxy war between the USA and Russia.
 
You don't understand what it means that every president since and including Carter has supported MILITANT ISLAMIC GROUPS! In fact, this thread is about giving them another 500 million!
Didn't you say that America has been stirring it in the ME for the past 100 years?
 
Im not talking about holding signs, what am I the occupy movement.

Im talking about substantive resolutions-like the removal of the president, via all legal channels.

That's what I was talking about.
 
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