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Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator[W:217:241]

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tres borrachos said:
What about it? It's the same email string we're discussing in this thread.
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She wrote:
Is this the one where we got the copy to Grassley? Did he get one to me? Looked like they were inappropriately offering to pay for his wife. Perhaps we should refer to Exam?
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She was asking a question, not making a recommendation. :roll:
 
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pbrauer said:
She wrote:

She was asking a question, not making a recommendation. :roll:
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And? She suggested referring to Exam, and Matthew pointed out to her that he didn't think they should.
 
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pbrauer said:
She wrote:

She was asking a question, not making a recommendation. :roll:
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Don't be naive. If even a low level IRS agent and you were talking and they dropped the line "Perhaps we should refer pbrauer to exam" what would you think?
 
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pbrauer said:
She wrote:

She was asking a question, not making a recommendation. :roll:
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And what was the response to her?

Come on Pete, the first thing that comes to her mind is to audit the guy? Please, she wasn't asking a question, she was asking permission.

You need to send a note to Markos Moulitsas and tell him you need re-training.
 
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tres borrachos said:
And? She suggested referring to Exam, and Matthew pointed out to her that he didn't think they should.
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Lutherf said:
Don't be naive. If even a low level IRS agent and you were talking and they dropped the line "Perhaps we should refer pbrauer to exam" what would you think?
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ocean515 said:
And what was the response to her?

Come on Pete, the first thing that comes to her mind is to audit the guy? Please, she wasn't asking a question, she was asking permission.

You need to send a note to Markos Moulitsas and tell him you need re-training.
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How does that thought match the title of the AP story? It doesn't. Be sides her question wasn't out of the blue. She wrote: Looked like they were inappropriately offering to pay for his wife. Perhaps we should refer to Exam? She worked for the IRS, that's the way they think. :shrug:
 
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pbrauer said:
How does that thought match the title of the AP story? It doesn't. Be sides her question wasn't out of the blue. She wrote: Looked like they were inappropriately offering to pay for his wife. Perhaps we should refer to Exam? She worked for the IRS, that's the way they think. :shrug:
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That's the problem. What was inappropriate? Can you explain to me how an organization is doing anything inappropriate by offering to pay for an invitee to bring their spouse to an engagement? Lerner, as a senior staffer with oversight, referral and supervisory responsibilities in the IRS, should know damned well that there was no basis for a referral.
 
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sangha said:
because republican politicians and their families should be immune from the tax laws
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And we have a candidate for irrelevant strawman argument of the day!
 
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Lutherf said:
That's the problem. What was inappropriate? Can you explain to me how an organization is doing anything inappropriate by offering to pay for an invitee to bring their spouse to an engagement? Lerner, as a senior staffer with oversight, referral and supervisory responsibilities in the IRS, should know damned well that there was no basis for a referral.
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She should have; her colleague did know. And the Senator hadn't even received the invitation.
 
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sangha said:
because republican politicians and their families should be immune from the tax laws
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What law was broken?
 
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sangha said:
If the "someone" happens to be an IRS official or agent, and the "whim" is evidence of a prohibited activity, then "No, that's enough to look into the situation"
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Where's the evidence of prohibited activity, I mean besides Lerner violating the civil rights of American citizens.
 
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tres borrachos said:
This is a new story. And it isn't a good one.
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If this email didn't get scrubbed, just imagine what the deleted emails were about.
 
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apdst said:
Where's the evidence of prohibited activity, I mean besides Lerner violating the civil rights of American citizens.
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There is no evidence. Just some in this thread trying out some new material from the Ministry of Truth. Before it's over they'll deny that anyone named Lois Lerner ever worked at the IRS. And then they'll increase our chocolate ration from 7 grams to 5 grams!
 
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Perotista said:
The fact that the Democrats are defending Learner to the max for targeting conservatives groups should surprise no one than having the Republicans calling foul and wanting justice done. That is what diehard partisans do. If Learner had targeted Liberal groups and the president was a Republican, it would be the opposite way around. The Democrats would be holding hearings and wanting justice while the Republicans would be defending her to the max. That is life in Washington D.C.

Look at the debt ceiling votes during the Bush years, almost all Democrats voted no and almost all republican voted yes. One Democratic senator called raising the debt ceiling unpatriotic.

Fast forward to the Obama administration, now is almost all Democrats voting yes to raise the debt ceiling and almost all Republicans voting no. It is now unpatriotic to vote against raising the debt ceiling.

That my friend is the partisan politics of the times.
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I would be opposed--and vocally--to this kind of activity, no matter who's the president and who's being picked on. Right's right and wrong's wrong.
 
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Lutherf said:
That's the problem. What was inappropriate? Can you explain to me how an organization is doing anything inappropriate by offering to pay for an invitee to bring their spouse to an engagement? Lerner, as a senior staffer with oversight, referral and supervisory responsibilities in the IRS, should know damned well that there was no basis for a referral.
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you beat me to it.

Looks as if, she (Lerner) is quite the incompetent fool.
 
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apdst said:
I would be opposed--and vocally--to this kind of activity, no matter who's the president and who's being picked on. Right's right and wrong's wrong.
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And that in my opinion is how it should be.
 
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Derp said:
you beat me to it.

Looks as if, she (Lerner) is quite the incompetent fool.
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I'm more interested in learning about how she was "accidently" sent the e-mail in the first place. When I send an e-mail, I have to type who the receiver is, and it goes to their computer. Period. Nowhere else. Curious....

Greetings, Derp. :2wave:
 
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polgara said:
I'm more interested in learning about how she was "accidently" sent the e-mail in the first place. When I send an e-mail, I have to type who the receiver is, and it goes to their computer. Period. Nowhere else. Curious...
Greetings, Derp. :2wave:
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If I remember correctly, she *received* the email.
 
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sangha said:
If I remember correctly, she *received* the email.
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I "receive" e-mails, too, but not ones that are sent to other people. She sure seemed anxious to see if anything wrong was done, though.. Fortunately she apparently listened to her attorney's advice and let it drop, since the matter of who pays for a spouse's travel is apparently a routine matter.

Greetings, Sangha. :2wave:
 
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pbrauer said:
How does that thought match the title of the AP story? It doesn't. Be sides her question wasn't out of the blue. She wrote: Looked like they were inappropriately offering to pay for his wife. Perhaps we should refer to Exam? She worked for the IRS, that's the way they think. :shrug:
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Wait - is that your problem with this, that you don't like the title of the AP story? Take it up with the AP then. It's their headline.
 
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Lutherf said:
That's the problem. What was inappropriate? Can you explain to me how an organization is doing anything inappropriate by offering to pay for an invitee to bring their spouse to an engagement? Lerner, as a senior staffer with oversight, referral and supervisory responsibilities in the IRS, should know damned well that there was no basis for a referral.
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Proving that Lois Lerner is not only a sneak, she's an incompetent.
 
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Was the invitation sent by e-mail? I thought Lerner and her colleague were just discussing her accidental receipt of the invitation and assumed it had been delivered by the Post Office because formal invitations still are.
 
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apdst said:
If this email didn't get scrubbed, just imagine what the deleted emails were about.
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*shudder* ... :beam:

Greetings, apdst. :2wave:
 
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