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Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator[W:217:241]

Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

The response of they did it too is to point out the hypocrisy of you guys who only wish to prosecute a democrat, considering it perfectly fine when a republican does it. And, I've already stated that if an investigation reveals wrong doing in this administration that somebody goes to jail.

Maybe you should start a thread and stop trying to derail this one with your feigned objectivity.
 
Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

Nonsense.

Stop with the leftist rhetoric talking points and you might be taken seriously.

No one " Lied us into War ". The Democrats going as far back as 1996 openly admitted that Saddam had WMD and something needed to be done about it.

Plus, the Iraq resolution was Bi-partisan.

The rest of your rhetoric isn't based in reality, just assumptions.

WMD wasnt the only thing Bush lied about. There was the connection between Saddam and OBL that didn't exist, there was the threat of mushroom clouds over US cities, that was never a threat, there was the connection between Saddam and al Qaeda that never existed and the connection between Saddam and the 9/11 attacks that never existed, and then there was the Downing Street memo which told of Bush "fixing the intelligence around the policy" to invade Iraq! I'm just disappointed in your dishonesty and partisan finger pointing, but you have plenty of company.
 
Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

Maybe you should start a thread and stop trying to derail this one with your feigned objectivity.

If the investigation reveals wrong doing, somebody goes to jail! Next time we have a republican president, lets hold them accountable too, is the point!
 
Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

WMD wasnt the only thing Bush lied about. There was the connection between Saddam and OBL that didn't exist, there was the threat of mushroom clouds over US cities, that was never a threat, there was the connection between Saddam and al Qaeda that never existed and the connection between Saddam and the 9/11 attacks that never existed, and then there was the Downing Street memo which told of Bush "fixing the intelligence around the policy" to invade Iraq! I'm just disappointed in your dishonesty and partisan finger pointing, but you have plenty of company.


Bush didn't lie about WMD.

Thats just a partisan driven left wing talking point for hacks and low information morons.

Again, there were plenty of Democrats who admitted he had WMD.
 
Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

If the investigation reveals wrong doing, somebody goes to jail! Next time we have a republican president, lets hold them accountable too, is the point!


Again, start your own thread and quit hijacking this one.
 
Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

WMD wasnt the only thing Bush lied about. There was the connection between Saddam and OBL that didn't exist, there was the threat of mushroom clouds over US cities, that was never a threat, there was the connection between Saddam and al Qaeda that never existed and the connection between Saddam and the 9/11 attacks that never existed, and then there was the Downing Street memo which told of Bush "fixing the intelligence around the policy" to invade Iraq! I'm just disappointed in your dishonesty and partisan finger pointing, but you have plenty of company.

NEWSFLASH

There hasn't been one scrap of evidence that bush lied about any of those things, and Bush has nothing to do with the topic.
 
Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

Bush didn't lie about WMD.

Thats just a partisan driven left wing talking point for hacks and low information morons.

Again, there were plenty of Democrats who admitted he had WMD.

And again, you ignore all the lies Bush told Americans that I pointed out in post 202, naturally because those lies are indefensible. You want to talk about WMD which I never mentioned and manage to get mice to like your post.
 
Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

NEWSFLASH

There hasn't been one scrap of evidence that bush lied about any of those things, and Bush has nothing to do with the topic.

Actually, there's plenty of evidence that Bush lied about all those things, and YOU are amongst the three Americans that still think that Saddam Hussein was involved with OBL, al Qaeda, 9/11, had the ability to produce a mushroom cloud over US cities and killed JFK.
 
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Actually, there's plenty of evidence that Bush lied about all those things, and YOU are amongst the three Americans that still think that Saddam Hussein was involved with OBL, al Qaeda, 9/11, had the ability to produce a mushroom cloud over US cities and killed JFK.
Can you take that to a proper thread, enumerate the lies, and invite us please?
 
Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

Can you take that to a proper thread, enumerate the lies, and invite us please?

No, it's proper here considering the topic.
 
Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

From Yahoo News:

The emails show former IRS official Lois Lerner mistakenly received an invitation to an event that was meant to go to Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa.

The event organizer apparently offered to pay for Grassley's wife to attend the event. In an email to another IRS official, Lerner suggests referring the matter for an audit, saying it might be inappropriate for the group to pay for his wife.

...In a statement, Grassley's office said the senator did not attend the event, and did not receive any invitation intended for Lerner.

"This kind of thing fuels the deep concerns many people have about political targeting by the IRS and by officials at the highest levels," Grassley said. "It's very troubling that a simple clerical mix-up could get a taxpayer immediately referred for an IRS exam without any due diligence from agency officials."

...The IRS says it has lost an untold numbers of Lerner's emails because her computer crashed in 2011, sparking outrage among Republican lawmakers who have accused the tax agency of a cover-up. The emails released Wednesday were among the thousands that have been turned over to congressional investigators.

Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

Going after a United States Senator is pretty brazen. And this is just one e-mail exchange while an "untold" number of Lerner's emails can't be recovered because of a "computer crash."

Pols aren't the people and therefore do not have a right to privacy nor the right to keep any monies they made. The IRS has every right to scrutinize the tax returns of US pols and/or demand money from them at any time.

Only the people (i. e. US citizens or residents) have a right to be free from govt. intrusion into their private funds or affairs. Agents of the govt. do not.
 
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because republican politicians and their families should be immune from the tax laws

They are, unfortunately.
 
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Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

And again, you ignore all the lies Bush told Americans that I pointed out in post 202, naturally because those lies are indefensible. You want to talk about WMD which I never mentioned and manage to get mice to like your post.


"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002


"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


See how effortless it is to debunk your nonsense ??

Now, care to discuss the topic of the OP or are you going to continue to derail the thread ??
 
Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

Using the IRS against ones political rivals is un american and illegal.

Er not true. If the rivals are politicians serving within the federal govt., they aren't entitled to any rights.

Lawmakers can't be given the same rights as people because doing so would compromise their accountability.

The People have every right to know every detail of a pol's life and the right to scrutinize it at will. The IRS acted appropriately.
 
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No, it's proper here considering the topic.

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Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

Unfortunately the same way it did for Bush when his administration conveniently lost 22 million e-mails! Not a damn thing.

When the Bush White House lost 22 million emails, Darrell Issa didn't blame the President. He blamed IBM.

Issa Blamed IBM Software For Loss Of 22 Million Bush Emails | Crooks and Liars

HYPOCRISY WATCH: Lost IRS Email Outrage vs. Lost Bush White House Email Amnesia

So you post a couple ultra-leftwing hack sites that even say the 22M emails were found, and expect to prove your point?
 
Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator[W:217]

So you post a couple ultra-leftwing hack sites that even say the 22M emails were found, and expect to prove your point?


He's been trying to derail the thread for days now.
 
Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002


"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


See how effortless it is to debunk your nonsense ??

Now, care to discuss the topic of the OP or are you going to continue to derail the thread ??

There's nothing to debunk. I don't dispute democratic culpability in the folly of the Iraq war. This has been my point always. Both parties suck, and they both kick the can down the same road! I assume that's your point as well.
 
Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

Er not true. If the rivals are politicians serving within the federal govt., they aren't entitled to any rights.

Lawmakers can't be given the same rights as people because doing so would compromise their accountability.

The People have every right to know every detail of a pol's life and the right to scrutinize it at will. The IRS acted appropriately.

Who would argue with that. That's not however what I was talking about.
 
Re: Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator

Unfortunately the same way it did for Bush when his administration conveniently lost 22 million e-mails! Not a damn thing.

When the Bush White House lost 22 million emails, Darrell Issa didn't blame the President. He blamed IBM.

Issa Blamed IBM Software For Loss Of 22 Million Bush Emails | Crooks and Liars

HYPOCRISY WATCH: Lost IRS Email Outrage vs. Lost Bush White House Email Amnesia

Shouldn't it bother us no matter what party the liar is from? Two wrongs don't make a right.
 
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