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Emails: IRS official sought audit of GOP senator[W:217:241]

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Montecresto said:
It's hilarious you guys still think I'm a lefty, critical of the Obama presidency as I am. The whole point of that story is hypocrisy, something we see as just a matter of business on both sides. Issa blamed IBM, not Bush!!
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The point is, he had every reason to believe IBM was the problem. There was no REASON to suspect or blame Bush. Bush never said there was no problem or that there was no evidence of wrong doing or that the issue was a politically motivated phony scandal. Nor did he suggest that it wasn't his problem but somebody else's doing. When there were problems like that in his administration, his attorney general appointed special prosecutors to get to the bottom of it and they did.

I would have great respect for Obama had he said that he had been told that there was a major computer problem but that there should be proper backups, hard copies, etc. for all the lost e-mails and these would be produced within a very short time. He didn't do that did he? No indication the Justice Department is vigorously investigating. No special prosecutors. Obama declares himself pure as the driven snow and, apparently in his mind, that should be the end of it.
 
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Montecresto said:
Don't forget point number seven, 7. Issa blamed IBM not Bush.
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Now that you've been educated on the topic and your dishonest use of the Bush email issue to create a phony equivalence argument has be exposed for the fraud it is, are you now going to directly address the topic, or are you planning to continue carrying Obama's water by engaging in another phony distraction?
 
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Montecresto said:
It's hilarious you guys still think I'm a lefty, critical of the Obama presidency as I am. The whole point of that story is hypocrisy, something we see as just a matter of business on both sides. Issa blamed IBM, not Bush!!
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There is no hypocrisy because the issues are not the same.
 
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Grim17 said:
Now that you've been educated on the topic and your dishonest use of the Bush email issue to create a phony equivalence argument has be exposed for the fraud it is, are you now going to directly address the topic, or are you planning to continue carrying Obama's water by engaging in another phony distraction?
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It hasn't been exposed as a fraud, and I've repeated enough that I support prosecution of any wrong doing in the Obama administration. Now disagree with that!
 
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Montecresto said:
It hasn't been exposed as a fraud, and I've repeated enough that I support prosecution of any wrong doing in the Obama administration. Now disagree with that!
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Of course it has... You made a false comparisan in order to steer the topic of conversation to the Bush Administration and accuse those on the right of hypocrisy, when no such hypocricy exists.
 
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Grim17 said:
There is no hypocrisy because the issues are not the same.
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During a House Oversight Committee hearing last month on the preservation of White House records, an indignant Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), a frequent critic of Chairman Henry Waxman's investigations, did his best to play down the extent of the Bush administration's now well-documented email archiving problems. Defending the White House's decision to switch from the Lotus Notes-based archiving system used by the Clinton administration, Issa compared the software to "using wooden wagon wheels" and Sony Betamax tapes. To observers of the missing emails controversy, Issa's comments seemed little more than an attempt to deflect blame from the White House for replacing a working system for archiving presidential records with an ad hoc substitute. But to IT professionals who use Lotus at their companies, Issa's remarks seemed controversial, if not downright slanderous. Now, according to an executive at IBM, the software's manufacturer, the California congressman has apologized for his characterization of Lotus and offered to correct the congressional record.

http://www.cnet.com/news/politicos-squabble-over-missing-white-house-e-mails/
 
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Grim17 said:
Of course it has... You made a false comparisan in order to steer the topic of conversation to the Bush Administration and accuse those on the right of hypocrisy, when no such hypocricy exists.
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Are you kidding. Both the left and right are hypocritical. That's the problem with partisan politics. And as a partisan, you're myopic to it!!
 
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Which has nothing to do with the topic, which is Lois Lerner being prematurely premature in her eagerness to nail Grassley, who had criticized the IRS.
 
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nota bene said:
Which has nothing to do with the topic, which is Lois Lerner being prematurely premature in her eagerness to nail Grassley, who had criticized the IRS.
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But, but, Bush.
 
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nota bene said:
Which has nothing to do with the topic, which is Lois Lerner being prematurely premature in her eagerness to nail Grassley, who had criticized the IRS.
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But I don't disagree with that. And as stated before, I hope justice is served and wrong doing is punished before this is over.
 
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polgara said:
I "receive" e-mails, too, but not ones that are sent to other people. She sure seemed anxious to see if anything wrong was done, though.. Fortunately she apparently listened to her attorney's advice and let it drop, since the matter of who pays for a spouse's travel is apparently a routine matter.

Greetings, Sangha. :2wave:
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Since nothing was done yet, there was nothing to drop. She was merely suggesting it might be inappropriate.

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/uploadedfiles/irs_grassley.pdf
 
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Montecresto said:
It's hilarious you guys still think I'm a lefty, critical of the Obama presidency as I am. The whole point of that story is hypocrisy, something we see as just a matter of business on both sides. Issa blamed IBM, not Bush!!
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Why not start a thread then about hypocrisy, a subject with which we're all familiar, rather than subverting one about the IRS?
 
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Grant said:
Like taking the fifth from a public service employee might be inappropriate?
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Nope, she has a constitutional right to take the fifth.
 
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pbrauer said:
Nope, she has a constitutional right to take the fifth.
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Sure she does.

But 24 consecutive 5th amendment pleas has to be the worst possible way to counter a " Fake scandal " .

All the Obama administration AND the Democrats have done is destroy what little credibility they had, and perpetuate the scandal

You don't counter a Politically motivated investigation by perpetual obstructionism and destroying evidence.

No, you counter a BS investigation by telling the truth.

You expose It with facts and data.

It would have been over the week Lerner admitted that the IRS was targeting Conservatives.
 
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Fenton said:
Sure she does.

But 24 consecutive 5th amendment pleas has to be the worst possible way to counter a " Fake scandal " .

All the Obama administration AND the Democrats have done is destroy what little credibility they had, and perpetuate the scandal

You don't counter a Politically motivated investigation by perpetual obstructionism and destroying evidence.

No, you counter a BS investigation by telling the truth.

You expose It with facts and data.

It would have been over the week Lerner admitted that the IRS was targeting Conservatives.
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LOL Did you miss this:

New Records: IRS Targeted Progressive Groups More Extensively Than Tea Party | ThinkProgress

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Grim17 said:
I can't believe you posted that misleading, fully debunked graphic again.

This just proves beyond any doubt, just how dishonest you are Pete.
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Debunked by who other than you?
 
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pbrauer said:
LOL Did you miss this:

New Records: IRS Targeted Progressive Groups More Extensively Than Tea Party | ThinkProgress

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LOL !


Think Progress ? Ridiculous.

Why don't you just link to the DailyKos ?

Or straight to Obama's website ?

Are you allergic to objectivity ? Integrity backed research based on finding the truth ? Does that cause you to break out in a rash ?

Because you ALWAYS post lame and EASILY debunked Liberal backed talking points and then you try and legitimize them by linking to trash websites like " Think Progress "

And you expect to be taken seriously ? You expect to be treated like an adult ?

How about you link to the Treasury IG's 2013 report that stated Liberal groups were NOT targeted like Conservative groups were ?

What's wrong ? Would it contradict your BS talking points ?

Cause you to run to the medicine cabinet for a hand full of Benadryl ?

Because IF the IRS had actually targeted Liberal groups based on their ideology alone then Lerner would have never ADMITTED to the targeting of Conservative groups back in 2012.

Jay Carney would have never blamed it on " Rogue agents ".

The IRS would have never destroyed evidence.

Truth is the IRS DID treat Liberal groups differently.

Or maybe you can let us in on when was the last time the IRS sent private Liberal donor information to a Conservative activist group.

My guess is you wont. My guess is you'll just post more BS and link to another HACK website
 
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ecofarm said:
Head of the IRS, see citation.
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Pete's one of those guys who is loyal to his ideology and NOT the truth.

He uses his ideology to define the truth, not the other way around.

And when there is so much evidence that not even people like him can can defend the actions of the IRS anymore, he'll just come out and admit that Conservatives SHOULD BE TARGETED.

That people like me SHOULD BE treated like Criminals because we dare disagree with his TWISTED and CORRUPTED world view.

Its too bad because right or wrong, that's when the gloves come off.

When 10s of housands of Liberals have to either face the music or agree that people who think differently than them should be targeted, I think we'll see a shift in how Americans deal with Political debate.
 
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Fenton said:
Pete's one of those guys who is loyal to his ideology and NOT the truth.
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Well, I will have you know... I am a purveyor of The Truth.

Its too bad because right or wrong, that's when the gloves come off.
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Why is that too bad?

I wanna die in mah boots.
 
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