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Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

I am going to guess that this will not succeed.

But Boehner will be able to say that he tried.

If the GOP had enough numbers in the house and senate, he could go for impeachment, which might be easier. If his lawsuit goes to a unbiased high court, they'll just laugh and strike it down.
 
It doesn't get anything accomplished, they're more worried about being reelected than anything else.

At this festive time of year, every other year, all our representatives are concerned about is keeping their jobs, and each party is concerned about keeping or gaining the power. It's disgraceful.

Again, I'm not saying I don't disagree with what Boehner thinks, I just disgaree with this action right now. The optics of it are awful.
 
I would, even though I don't like the EPA. It is the law. It's the president's job to enforce the law on the books. Not pick and choose which laws he likes and doesn't like. If he doesn't like a law he can make a case to congress to change the law.

Well, he does that every day. Every person involved in law enforcement does.

And here's a list of Bush era regulatory actions related to EPA, etc. You'll see lots of discretion being invoked there.

NRDC: The Bush Record - Power Plant Pollution
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nst-obama-over-alleged-abuse-executive-power/

Where did the crybaby get his gonads at? Did he buy them or grow them? :lol:

Leader says House plans to sue Obama



How can an overly sensitive wimp come up with something like this? did he drink some tea or something?

About time someone did. Congress should have been doing this during Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, etc. All of them have taken executive actions which they are not legally allowed to do. And if congress doesnt exert their power they will lose it. The constitution makes congress the policy makers. The Presidents job is to execute congresses decisions, not to make them. We also likewise need to be suing congress for constantly passing laws we didnt give them the power to do. THROW THEM ALL OUT.
 
I believe the congress (Boehner specifically) is treading into uncharted territory, a gray or black area that hasn't been tested on EO's with a lawsuit. There's a very thin line here. If he succeeds with the lawsuit or impeachment, the right had better look out, because if the GOP gains control of the white house, there's going to be a lot of left wing head hunters, and setting a new precedence could be dangerous for either party. It's basically why nobody ever pushed the limit of trying to impeach Bush, fear of the unknown, which might be something to fear after all.

I welcome it. I dont care which party is keeping the govt in check. Someone has to do it. Voters need to be doing it. Congress needs to be doing it. The President needs to be doing it.
 
The idea that each president can now do whatever they want because some president in the past did "something similar" is nonsense.

I think the problem that most of us liberals have is the fake out cry from the right regarding this like Obama is some kind of rogue president doing whatever he wants. We have the speaker of the house wasting tax payers money trying to sue the POTUS while tearing up at the mentioning of his hero Ronald " I do no wrong" Reagan, who of course almost double the amount of EO that Obama has.
 
Obama is out of control and must be stopped.

ExecutiveOrders_FourYearTerms.jpg

I'd say most of the criticism of Obama's executive orders doesn't come from the quantity but from the scope of what they do. They do not doubt the constitutionality of executive orders by the president, but believe that some of Obama's have been unconstitutional.
 
Nice dodge.

No, it's right to the point. Obama is well within the the confines of what other presidents have done and his opponents behave as if he was miles ahead of them. That hyperbolic nonsense has come from those who dislike him from day one. Can't you see the problem with that?
 
I'd say most of the criticism of Obama's executive orders doesn't come from the quantity but from the scope of what they do. They do not doubt the constitutionality of executive orders by the president, but believe that some of Obama's have been unconstitutional.

Most of the misinformation has been about quantity. I run into conservatives daily who tell me he's done more than anyone. And won't believe otherwise. But even in quality, Obama is average at worse.
 
Most of the misinformation has been about quantity. I run into conservatives daily who tell me he's done more than anyone. And won't believe otherwise. But even in quality, Obama is average at worse.

I haven't seen much criticism come that way. Usually its about the unconstitutionality of a specific executive order.
 
I haven't seen much criticism come that way. Usually its about the unconstitutionality of a specific executive order.

Not sure how you missed it. Shall I present several links?
 
I'd appreciate it.

Maybe I've just ignored it because any criticism like that is baseless.

Having trouble on my iPad. I'll have to them one at a time:

Through the unconstitutional power of Executive Orders (i.e. dictatorial power to issue decrees), Obama has positioned himself to stand alongside the most heinous dictators in history. Since taking office, President Obama signed 923 Executive Orders in the first 40 months of his term, many times more than any other president to date.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/john...president-of-the-united-state/326192404147496


If you don't get the implications you're not paying attention. How many warnings do you need?


Scary!
923 Executive Orders in 40 Months


During my lifetime, all Presidents have issued Executive Orders, for reasons that vary, some more than others.


When a President issued as many as 30 Executive Orders during a term in Office, people thought there was something amiss.

Obama's has issued 923 Executive Orders in 40 months, page 1

http://teapartywpbfl.wordpress.com/2012/07/16/obama-signs-923-executive-orders-in-40-months/

http://worldfastnews-financial.blogspot.com/2013/11/obama-has-issued-923-executive-orders.html

http://jdgroover.wordpress.com/2012/09/21/wake-up-america-923-executive-orders-in-40-months/

I get one of these twice a week from the conservatives I know in the south. They call the fact checkers part of the liberal media. I have no idea how to address them.
 
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Having trouble on my iPad. I'll have to them one at a time:

Through the unconstitutional power of Executive Orders (i.e. dictatorial power to issue decrees), Obama has positioned himself to stand alongside the most heinous dictators in history. Since taking office, President Obama signed 923 Executive Orders in the first 40 months of his term, many times more than any other president to date.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/john...president-of-the-united-state/326192404147496


If you don't get the implications you're not paying attention. How many warnings do you need?


Scary!
923 Executive Orders in 40 Months


During my lifetime, all Presidents have issued Executive Orders, for reasons that vary, some more than others.


When a President issued as many as 30 Executive Orders during a term in Office, people thought there was something amiss.

Obama's has issued 923 Executive Orders in 40 months, page 1

Obama Signs 923 Executive Orders in 40 Months !!! | TeaPartyWPBFL
 
Having trouble on my iPad. I'll have to them one at a time:

Through the unconstitutional power of Executive Orders (i.e. dictatorial power to issue decrees), Obama has positioned himself to stand alongside the most heinous dictators in history. Since taking office, President Obama signed 923 Executive Orders in the first 40 months of his term, many times more than any other president to date.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/john...president-of-the-united-state/326192404147496


If you don't get the implications you're not paying attention. How many warnings do you need?


Scary!
923 Executive Orders in 40 Months


During my lifetime, all Presidents have issued Executive Orders, for reasons that vary, some more than others.


When a President issued as many as 30 Executive Orders during a term in Office, people thought there was something amiss.

Obama's has issued 923 Executive Orders in 40 months, page 1

George Washington began the use of EO's and its never stopped. While men like Alexander Hamilton wanted him to be King, he said it will be Mr. president, and nothing more, so I think there was little concern of imperial presidency. There are however other actions that both Obama and his predecessor Bush did take that look like the imperial presidency.
 
George Washington began the use of EO's and its never stopped. While men like George Hamilton wanted him to be King, he said it will be Mr. president, and nothing more, so I think there was little concern of imperial presidency. There are however other actions that both Obama and his predecessor Bush did take that look like the imperial presidency.

Certainly. How did these guys respond to Bush? It's the exaggeration that bothers me. We have an issue that isn't about Obama, but about the presidency. Pretending it's just Obama won't fix the problem.
 
Certainly. How did these guys respond to Bush? It's the exaggeration that bothers me. We have an issue that isn't about Obama, but about the presidency. Pretending it's just Obama won't fix the problem.

I totally agree with you!!
 
This lawsuit occurred the day after the Cochran DEMs upset the TEAs--perfect GOP timing to blunt the TEA-outrage.
TEAs know this isn't going anywhere, just like the 50 some votes to get rid of ACA.

Now if you ask Kentucky folks about KYnect, they'll tell you they like it, just like Cochran DEMs like pork.
Nevermind that IT is ACA .
 
About time someone did. Congress should have been doing this during Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, etc. All of them have taken executive actions which they are not legally allowed to do. And if congress doesnt exert their power they will lose it. The constitution makes congress the policy makers. The Presidents job is to execute congresses decisions, not to make them. We also likewise need to be suing congress for constantly passing laws we didnt give them the power to do. THROW THEM ALL OUT.
Radical.
 
No, it's right to the point. Obama is well within the the confines of what other presidents have done and his opponents behave as if he was miles ahead of them. That hyperbolic nonsense has come from those who dislike him from day one. Can't you see the problem with that?

No I can't see that because I'm not that naive. Posting a chart that shows quantity is totally irrelevant to the constitutionality of each and every executive order it covers. Just because Carter had over 300 executive orders doesn't mean that even a single one of them was inappropriate or unconstitutional. If Obama has one that is unconstitutional and Carter has 300 that aren't, then Obama has abused the provision and Carter has not. It's that simple - can't you see the problem with that?
 
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