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Obama considers special forces to help in iraq

Grant said:
"The first place" is done and dusted. If those who continue to debate whose fault it is are so behind the the times that their input is of no use whatsoever. The problem facing the world today is Islamist terrorism and the best the leftists can do is to remind us that 'not all Muslims are terrorists" when the real problem, as everyone should be aware of by now, is those who are. Releasing known terrorist leaders might be part of some grand strategy but, as usual, there is no clear idea of what that strategy might be.
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It will always be Bush's war. And invading will always be the mistake that can't be undone. You cannot discuss Iraq without this recognition.

And POW are never meant to be held forever. Either try them of crimes, or let them go.
 
j-mac said:
Take a look around the world Joe. Obama is the absolute least respected president in memory. This post of yours only highlights your lack of objectivity.
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No, that would be Bush. Your memory is short.
 
Boo Radley said:
That involvement was invading in the first place. And that is what created the mess. No matter how long we interfere and prop up, we just delay the coming battle. The civil war will be fought and we can't control the outcome.
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Do you blane The Red Brigade on FDR?
 
apdst said:
Do you blane The Red Brigade on FDR?
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How did FDR make it into your post apdst--focus--
How does Obama clean up your boy Bush's mess without a SOFA, a SOFA that even Bush couldn't get--
remember McCain saying Obama was rigtht to leave without a SOFA--of course you don't -
 
NIMBY said:
How did FDR make it into your post apdst--focus--
How does Obama clean up your boy Bush's mess without a SOFA, a SOFA that even Bush couldn't get--
remember McCain saying Obama was rigtht to leave without a SOFA--of course you don't -
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He could have tried talking with Maliki and negotiating. Instead he walked away from the table.
 
Ockham said:
He could have tried talking with Maliki and negotiating. Instead he walked away from the table.
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Obama did and Maliki said no--as McCain acknowledged.
I get it that's Obama's fault also.

Expect a stronger Obama this time, compared to Syria,
cuz he knows half of the American political spectrum will oppose anything he does .
 
Captain America said:
I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut that those special are forces are going in to protect OUR people.

But you're right. This is how it all begins, over and over again.
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That basically how our involvement in Vietnam began. Harry S. Truman sending in 65 troops to oversee the distribution of our material to the Vietnamese back in 1950. But I have no problem in sending in some troops to protect our Embassy Personnel. But if it looks like there is a remote chance that the bad guys would take over Baghdad, you better evac the Embassy. Let's not wait until the last possible second like State did in Saigon. I really doubt ISIS would be as kind as the NVA in stopping their advance for a little more than 8 hours so we could get everyone/all Americans out of Vietnam.
 
NIMBY said:
How did FDR make it into your post apdst--focus--
How does Obama clean up your boy Bush's mess without a SOFA, a SOFA that even Bush couldn't get--
remember McCain saying Obama was rigtht to leave without a SOFA--of course you don't -
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Oh, we already know Obama is useless. We don't expect him to do anything, except make things worse. What he'll do to make things worse is really the only thing left to wonder.

Have you ever heard of The Red Brigade?
 
NIMBY said:
Obama did and Maliki said no--as McCain acknowledged.
I get it that's Obama's fault also.

Expect a stronger Obama this time, compared to Syria,
cuz he knows half of the American political spectrum will oppose anything he does .
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A sronger Obama? :lamo

You be sure and let us know when that happens!
 
apdst said:
Have you ever heard of The Red Brigade?
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For the ****ing love of god.

Can you please, just for once not try to pretend that every single problem in the world is comparable to WWII.

Guess what?

It jolly well ****ing isn't.
 
Jetboogieman said:
For the ****ing love of god.

Can you please, just for once not try to pretend that every single problem in the world is comparable to WWII.

Guess what?

It jolly well ****ing isn't.
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You're jist mad because you know I'm right and this meltdown is the only response you have.
 
apdst said:
You're jist mad because you know I'm right and this meltdown is the only response you have.
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Well since you practically never are, your assessment of my post would be most incorrect.

Again, not every single event can be compared to WWII and you always do it.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Well since you practically never are, your assessment of my post would be most incorrect.

Again, not every single event can be compared to WWII and you always do it.
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Ok, are you going ti blame the Allies for The Nazi Party?
 
Can't imagine being a soldier with this buffoon in charge. Has ever there been so much uncertainty and distrust among our troops of the Commander and Chief?

Everything perplexes him. Surprised at every turn on everything. Drowning in incompetence and inexperience.

The VA, IRS, DoJ, prisoner swap, Obamacare, Benghazi, Egypt, Libya, Putin, Crimea, Ukraine, etc, etc, etc,.....and now this ugly terrorist takeover of Iraqi cities he's chosen to abandon for slaughter.

Perhaps he just needs some time off and a couple rounds of golf.
 
apdst said:
Damn, this dude is stupid! He could have shored up the Iraqi Army with air support, but no, he wants to put SF units on the ground that will be outnumbered and unsupported.
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Heya Apdst. :2wave: Not really. After BO screwed up with SOFA and 2011. Only flights we have are coming out of Turkey and Qatar. That's for Recon.

We would have to rely on Maliki for Co-ordinates and the concern is he would bomb Sunni opposition and the Kurds.

If we go with Airpower.....we will need people on the ground to spot and paint the enemy. Maliki can't be trusted.
 
MMC said:
Heya Apdst. :2wave: Not really. After BO screwed up with SOFA and 2011. Only flights we have are coming out of Turkey and Qatar. That's for Recon.

We would have to rely on Maliki for Co-ordinates and the concern is he would bomb Sunni opposition and the Kurds.

If we go with Airpower.....we will need people on the ground to spot and paint the enemy. Maliki can't be trusted.
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We can use visual aquisiition. The only massed target in theater right now is ISIS.
 
apdst said:
A sronger Obama? :lamo

You be sure and let us know when that happens!
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It's happeneiong right now--I'd expect you to be missing that tho.
Do you agree with Bush neo-cons/O'Reilly/Rove that we should have left 10,000 on the ground?
Without legal protection-
to have more Ben-gha-zies
 
NIMBY said:
It's happeneiong right now--I'd expect you to be missing that tho.
Do you agree with Bush neo-cons/O'Reilly/Rove that we should have left 10,000 on the ground?
Without legal protection-
to have more Ben-gha-zies
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It's happening? Where?
 
MMC said:
Heya Apdst. :2wave: Not really. After BO screwed up with SOFA and 2011.
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Stop right here with this lie from you Bush/FOX neo-cons M .
Only flights we have are coming out of Turkey and Qatar. That's for Recon.
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should it just be the USA only bombing, further inflaming all Arabs--
We would have to rely on Maliki for Co-ordinates and the concern is he would bomb Sunni opposition and the Kurds.
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Yet it's Obama who is at fault for Maliki not giving us a SOFA--still blaming.
If we go with Airpower.....we will need people on the ground to spot and paint the enemy. Maliki can't be trusted.
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But Maliki could be trusted in 2011 to bargain for a SOFA - :lamo
 
apdst said:
We can use visual aquisiition. The only massed target in theater right now is ISIS.
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According to Admiral Kirby there is know way to know. That's why they have held off with Air. Whats happened is ISIS has recruited the Baathists and Sunni who are all against Maliki and his government. They have filled ISIS ranks and then some. They are not terrorists. Kirby and others said they even fought to drive AQ out.

Also the other Problem is.....Due to ISIS taking the Military Base. Not only did they pick up 72 tanks. They think they took all the Stinger Missiles that were housed in that base.

In the meantime.....Assad has been pounding ISIS and even their headquarters inside Syria. Which was after Assad discovered them bringing tanks over into Syria.
 
NIMBY said:
Stop right here with this lie from you Bush/FOX neo-cons M .

should it just be the USA only bombing, further inflaming all Arabs--

Yet it's Obama who is at fault for Maliki not giving us a SOFA--still blaming.

But Maliki could be trusted in 2011 to bargain for a SOFA - :lamo
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Its not a lie.....read what all the experts and analysts say. BO dropped the Ball It was BO who did not use diplomacy to protect US Interests. Not for Iraq and not even for the region with Iraq.

NO the Europeans should be up and moving as of 3 days ago. They want no involvement. Plus the Turks should be about getting their people back.

Yes.....its BO's fault. BO was giving aid to the Syrian Rebels. BO knew Al Nusra and ISIS were taking the Equipment from the Muslim Brotherhood backed Rebels.

Just because Maliki can't be trusted was no reason for BO not to press policy with him. Nice try.....its BO's fault.
 
apdst said:
Do you blane The Red Brigade on FDR?
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Wow, that's a leap in logic. We didn't invade Germany or Japan on a pretext. Japan had attacked us, and we Germany had already declared war on us. And they, the aggessors, set in motion much of what came after. But, trying to keep making the false comparisons to WWII is just silly. This compares on no level.
 
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