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IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

justabubba said:
are you referring to the rnc.com email accounts of the dicknbush regime?
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No, I am referring to the gmail accounts set up by the Obama white house.
 
Anthony60 said:
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Excuse me if I don't believe these people. Someone needs to go to jail, and we the people need to know what the hell is going on with the IRS and the White House.
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We didn't send anyone to jail when the Bush administration fixed the intelligence around the policy to invade Iraq which cost hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi lives, the lives of 4,500 US servicemen/women and a trillion dollars to boot. Though I agree with you that someone needs to go to jail over this IRS scandal, the hypocrisy is thick here!

Bush Obstructs Justice http://www.rense.com/general75/obstruct.htm
 
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Montecresto said:
We didn't send anyone to jail when the Bush administration fixed the intelligence around the policy to invade Iraq which cost hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi lives, the lives of 4,500 US servicemen/women and a trillion dollars to boot. Though I agree with you that someone needs to go to jail over this IRS scandal, the hypocrisy is thick here!
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Well, Cheney's hard drive failed and the WH lost all the emails showing the collusion and made up WMD evidence.
 
Napoleon said:
The IRS did not have the server capacity to archive every single e-mail that every employ sends. Their retention policy was that only 6,000 e-mails per e-mail account would be stored on the server. If an employee believes that an e-mail is important, but may be lost due to that retention constraint, then it is plausible that they would store that e-mail in a file on their hard drive. This is not unusual at all. I do it myself and, in fact, I must do it to retain communications for longer than 15 months so that our line of business remains in compliance with the firm's risk and control policies. But, any IT specialist who tells you that they can always recover every file from a corrupted hard drive is not telling the truth.
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Not every computer crash is due to a corrupted hard drive. And most corrupted hard drives are not so corrupted that data cannot be recovered. And I do not buy the suggestion that the IRS does not have the space to store more then 6000 emails per account.
 
Napoleon said:
The IRS does not have a legal obligation to retain every single e-mail regardless of content for any length of time let alone seven years. It is only required to retain e-mails with a certain content for x length of time. If that is the bone you wish to pick then advocate for a change in the law.
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You are making that up as you go along. I suggest that you google and read the "The Federal Records Act".
 
ObamacareFail said:
You are making that up as you go along. I suggest that you google and read the "The Federal Records Act".
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Sounds like you need to do a little reading of your own. The Federal Records Act only requires the retention of records which are "in connection with the transaction of public business." That doesn't mean all e-mails. And by the way, can you prove that the content of those e-mails related to the transaction of public business?
 
Montecresto said:
We didn't send anyone to jail when the Bush administration fixed the intelligence around the policy to invade Iraq which cost hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi lives, the lives of 4,500 US servicemen/women and a trillion dollars to boot. Though I agree with you that someone needs to go to jail over this IRS scandal, the hypocrisy is thick here!

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I don't think Bush is involved here.
 
Napoleon said:
Sounds like you need to do a little reading of your own. The Federal Records Act only requires the retention of records which are "in connection with the transaction of public business." That doesn't mean all e-mails.
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Actually when you are using the government system, it does. Every single email I, for example, as a federal contractor, send on my government computers over their internet service is logged and saved for a minimum of 9 years.
 
cpwill said:
Actually when you are using the government system, it does. Every single email I, for example, as a federal contractor, send on my government computers over their internet service is logged and saved for a minimum of 9 years.
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That is personal preference not required by law.
 
cpwill said:
Actually when you are using the government system, it does. Every single email I, for example, as a federal contractor, send on my government computers over their internet service is logged and saved for a minimum of 9 years.
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could it be that your organization compels a retention standard more stringent than the records act, such that the standard required by your employing agency is more rigorous than that of the irs?
 
Napoleon said:
Sounds like you need to do a little reading of your own. The Federal Records Act only requires the retention of records which are "in connection with the transaction of public business." That doesn't mean all e-mails. And by the way, can you prove that the content of those e-mails related to the transaction of public business?
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Emails specifically dealing with non-profit groups are, "transaction of public business".
 
justabubba said:
could it be that your organization compels a retention standard more stringent than the records act, such that the standard required by your employing agency is more rigorous than that of the irs?
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Wouldn't it make sense that the IRS should be held to that same standard?
 
apdst said:
Emails specifically dealing with non-profit groups are, "transaction of public business".
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And you have evidence that the content of the e-mails pertained to non-profit groups?
 
Montecresto said:
We didn't send anyone to jail when the Bush administration fixed the intelligence around the policy to invade Iraq which cost hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi lives, the lives of 4,500 US servicemen/women and a trillion dollars to boot. Though I agree with you that someone needs to go to jail over this IRS scandal, the hypocrisy is thick here!

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What does Bush have to do with this?
 
justabubba said:
could it be that your organization compels a retention standard more stringent than the records act, such that the standard required by your employing agency is more rigorous than that of the irs?
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Not likely - we already have to worry about storing massive amounts of data; we're not going to store anything we don't have to.
 
Napoleon said:
And you have evidence that the content of the e-mails pertained to non-profit groups?
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Yeah! They're missing! :lamo

The only emails that are missing are the ones that could possibly pertain to the IRS tyranny and the only computers that crashed were the ones belonging to the 7 people being looked at. This has obstruction of justice and destruction of evidence written all over it.
 
apdst said:
Yeah! They're missing! :lamo

The only emails that are missing are the ones that could possibly pertain to the IRS tyranny and the only computers that crashed were the ones belonging to the 7 people being looked at. This has obstruction of justice and destruction of evidence written all over it.
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and you know this to be a fact because [will wait for an answer]
 
apdst said:
It's common knowledge, by now; even Koskinen admitted as much.
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really? koskinen admitted that the only emails that are missing are the ones that could possibly pertain to the IRS tyranny

please share a cite with the admission you attribute him to have made
 
justabubba said:
really? koskinen admitted that the only emails that are missing are the ones that could possibly pertain to the IRS tyranny

please share a cite with the admission you attribute him to have made
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Did I quote him? I didn't, did?
 
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