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Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance [W:246, 565, *656*]

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Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

TIKRIT Iraq (Reuters) - Sunni rebels from an al Qaeda splinter group overran the Iraqi city of Tikrit on Wednesday and closed in on the biggest oil refinery in the country, making further gains in their rapid military advance against the Shi'ite-led government.

The threat to the Baiji refinery comes after militants from the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) seized the northern city of Mosul, advancing their aim of creating a Sunni Caliphate straddling the border between Iraq and Syria

Iraq is going down fast. The US should never have pulled troops out. We should have been resolved to be there for decades, like in Germany, Japan, and South Korea.
 
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Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance



Iraq is going down fast. The US should never have pulled troops out. We should have been resolved to be there for decades, like in Germany, Japan, and South Korea.



Heya Lowdown. :2wave: Yeah I am getting some news over it too. They have all of Mosul. Al-Maliki is calling on citizens to help his troops go and retake the city. They also took the Turk's Embassy and have hostages.


The Sunni militants also gained entry to the Turkish consulate in Mosul and held captive 48 people, including diplomats, police, consulate employees and three children, according to an official in the office of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

As night fell, several hundred gunmen were in Tikrit, with clashes still taking place between the insurgents and military units on its outskirts, said Mizhar Fleih, the deputy head of the municipal council of nearby Samarra.

Two Iraqi security officials confirmed that Tikrit, the capital of Salahuddin province, was under the control of the ISIL, and said the provincial governor was missing. Tikrit is 130 kilometers (80 miles) north of Baghdad.....snip~

Iraqi officials say militants seize city of Tikrit
 
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This is what happens when you tell the enemy exactly when you're going to break camp and go home.
 
Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

This is what happens when you tell the enemy exactly when you're going to break camp and go home.

I am not exactly sure, but I think we have not been there for a year or so. So I am pretty sure they knew we are not there whether not anything was said about the matter.
 
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This is what happens when you tell the enemy exactly when you're going to break camp and go home.

Heya Apdst :2wave: Did you see what I had up in the thread where they took Mosul. I updated there too. ;)
 
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This is what happens when you tell the enemy exactly when you're going to break camp and go home.

Right. Otherwise they would not have noticed we were gone. Actually we should have made Iraq our 51st State. Then at least we would have had a reason to invade.
 
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I am not exactly sure, but I think we have not been there for a year or so. So I am pretty sure they knew we are not there whether not anything was said about the matter.

Heya Pirate :2wave: .....they have taken hostages in that Turk Embassy. So the Turks now have a chance to show why they should be part of NATO. Don't you think?
 
Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

I am not exactly sure, but I think we have not been there for a year or so. So I am pretty sure they knew we are not there whether not anything was said about the matter.

When we told then we were leaving, cum **** or bleed, they started building up their combat power. 12 month after we are fully withdrawn, they were ready to launch an offensive.
 
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Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance



Iraq is going down fast. The US should never have pulled troops out. We should have been resolved to be there for decades, like in Germany, Japan, and South Korea.

What good would losing more men in a hopeless cause do? Destabilizing Iraq will rank among the biggest blunders of the 21 century. A half million Iraqi's have already been killed because of our actions.
 
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They wanted us out, we left. Now they can suck it. Maybe Iran will come to their rescue this time. :shrug:

The only problem with that is the group taking over is also in control of a large area of Syria. They're only 70 miles form Baghdad, then they'll take the oil fields and tell us to go suck it.
 
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I am not exactly sure, but I think we have not been there for a year or so. So I am pretty sure they knew we are not there whether not anything was said about the matter.

December of 2011 was when we pulled the last troops out of Iraq. At the request of the Iraqi government I might add. I might add that I am also pretty sure the insurgents know we are not going back into Iraq for a third time. I think this kind of shows the folly of nation building and/or forcing a type of government upon the Iraqi people they didn't want.
 
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Heya Pirate :2wave: .....they have taken hostages in that Turk Embassy. So the Turks now have a chance to show why they should be part of NATO. Don't you think?

This is an IMAX Big Screen Preview of coming attractions in the ME. It will be interesting to observe the Turk's reactions..

Damn!

Thom Paine
 
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This is an IMAX Big Screen Preview of coming attractions in the ME. It will be interesting to observe the Turk's reactions..

Damn!

Thom Paine

Heya Thom. :2wave: What do you think, should we be throwing money to Iraq now?



US vows to try to help Iraqis displaced by fighting.....
AFP - 1 hour ago


Washington (AFP) - Washington will try to help the as many as half a million people who have fled fierce fighting in Iraq, the nominee to be the next US envoy to Baghdad said Wednesday.

His testimony came a day after the fall of Mosul, Iraq's second largest city, to the Sunni militants and amid police reports that ISIL fighters also took the northern city of Tikrit in fighting Wednesday.

Jones, who is currently US ambassador to Jordan, said Washington has responded to the threat with stepped up transfers of military equipment to Iraq, information sharing and border security programs.....snip~

US vows to try to help Iraqis displaced by fighting

http://www.debatepolitics.com/war-t...aqs-second-largest-city-8.html#post1063389332
 
Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

What can you really do? The one thing we can't do is sit there in a sand pit for decades, watching them. Just give them education and leave.
 
Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

What can you really do? The one thing we can't do is sit there in a sand pit for decades, watching them. Just give them education and leave.

I think Joe Biden, then a senator from Delaware had the right idea. But his suggestion was scorn, pillared and he was laughed at. Right after the capture of Saddam and before our nation building began Senator Joe suggested dividing up Iraq into 3 parts. The Kurds could have their own little country, the same for the Shia and the Sunni. Once done, bring the boys home.

Each could have formed the type of government they wanted and the laws to live under. Instead we forced democracy upon them and tried to make 3 different sects of people who never did get along with each other to get along with each other in the name of democracy.
 
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The only problem with that is the group taking over is also in control of a large area of Syria. They're only 70 miles form Baghdad, then they'll take the oil fields and tell us to go suck it.

Heya Grip. :2wave: They still haven't taken the one in Beiji. Also BO is sending military equipment to help out with.
 
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When we told then we were leaving, cum **** or bleed, they started building up their combat power. 12 month after we are fully withdrawn, they were ready to launch an offensive.

I think they were already doing that, and have been for some time. Telling them the obvious doesn't do anything for them. I could be wrong and not seeing something here.
 
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Heya UM. :2wave: Erdogan called an Emergency Meeting. Plus of course the UN condemned AQ for taking the Turks Embassy.

Does Ban Ki Moon know there is a War on Terror going on? What does he think the enemy normally does?
 
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Heya Thom. :2wave: What do you think, should we be throwing money to Iraq now?

What else were we to expect? When politicians run a war (nation building) havoc reigns supreme during and after the action.

There is no panacea in this situation. ( can't say I don't have an eye for the obvious ) ... We might do well to keep this problem at arms length for the time being... Judging by history, Apparently, we are unable to track our money and arms distribution; this weeks ally may be next weeks enemy....

As I have stated before, it sometimes seems a good idea to turn the entire area into a parking lot and build a Walmart... (sarcastic rant off)

I feel a rant rumbling... I'll quit for now.

Every crystal ball gazer on the planet forecasted this or similar scenario.

Good day to ya' M

Thom Paine
 
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I thought Al Qaeda was " on the run "
 
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I think they were already doing that, and have been for some time. Telling them the obvious doesn't do anything for them. I could be wrong and not seeing something here.

If the enemy knows you're leaving, he can stop expending his combat power trying to make you leave. Knowing when you're leaving allows him to organize his forces and set a timetable to launch an offensive.
 
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