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Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance [W:246, 565, *656*]

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Obama is the current president. He has been in office for 6 years. He has had 6 years to change anything and everything Bush did. The Bush posts are all off topic. Bush is not in office. He's been gone 6 years.

You cant force democracy on a people not ready for it or that dont want it. Is Obama a magician?

And no, Bush ****ed up on letting Afghanistan get out of control....that didnt go 'as he expected' either. So that's another mess that is beyond control.

Because of the criminal incompetancy (or deliberate) actions of the previous administration.
 
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I beg to differ. Presidents of both percussions have to deal with legacy issues from decades ago, so 6yrs is miniscule in comparison.

Paul

What exactly does Bush have the power to do about this current situation which has occurred under the current president? I want the whole list.
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You cant force democracy on a people not ready for it or that dont want it. Is Obama a magician?

And no, Bush ****ed up on letting Afghanistan get out of control....that didnt go 'as he expected' either. So that's another mess that is beyond control.

Because of the criminal incompetancy (or deliberate) actions of the previous administration.

Obama is the current president this current problem is HIS problem. He asked for the job.
 
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Obama is the current president it is HIS problem. And he asked for the job.

No one denies either of those things.


LOL, that's like blaming a doctor for treating a sick patient...
 
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What exactly does Bush have the power to do? I want the whole list.
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Who said anything about him having power to change things? I said, "presidents of both persuasions have legacy issues" to deal with. See the difference?

Paul
 
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No one denies either of those things.


LOL, that's like blaming a doctor for treating a sick patient...

So you think the most productive path to take is to swoon and say, 'Boooosh did it.' Groovy.
 
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Who said anything about him having power to change things? I said, "presidents of both persuasions have legacy issues" to deal with. See the difference?

Paul


Define 'deal with it.' That suggests that both administrations past and current have the power to do something.
 
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They wanted us out, we left. Now they can suck it. Maybe Iran will come to their rescue this time. :shrug:

Speaking of which, what on Earth are all the Shia militias in Iraq doing about this? Sitting on their hands?

You'd think they'd have at least some kind of vested interest in keeping Al Qaeda from gaining a foothold.
 
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and neither could the iraqi's.

should we have overruled the objections of the nation cooperating with us and providing us with the land to use as bases

Looks like Obama and the Iraqis blew it, too...lol!
 
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Speaking of which, what on Earth are all the Shia militias in Iraq doing about this? Sitting on their hands?

Excellent point.

You'd think they'd have at least some kind of vested interest in keeping Al Qaeda from gaining a foothold.

Yeah, and seeing as how the Shiites are a majority, one would guess they'd want the current gov't to retain power.
Either Maliki has managed to piss EVERYONE off, or the ME situation is beyond my comprehension.
Probably both.
 
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Excellent point.

Yeah, and seeing as how the Shiites are a majority, one would guess they'd want the current gov't to retain power.
Either Maliki has managed to piss EVERYONE off, or the ME situation is beyond my comprehension.
Probably both.

They might be hoping that the situation will deteriorate to such a point that they can step in and seize power for themselves, possibly with Iran's support and direction. I certainly wouldn't put it past them.

Either way, however, we could easily be looking at a civil war which will put the conflict in Syria to shame if things continue as they are.
 
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So you think the most productive path to take is to swoon and say, 'Boooosh did it.' Groovy.

Talk? Is Obama only talking or is he trying to get us out of Afghanistan? (Which we basically have lost, like Vietnam...thanks Bush.)
 
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Looks like Obama and the Iraqis blew it, too...lol!

Iraqis yes. Obama no.

Someone who isn't a raging out of control flaming at the mouth partisan hackjob will realize why the SOFA died.

A raging out of control flaming at the mouth partisan hackjob will keep blaming Obama for not keeping troops in Iraq without any realization of why the SOFA died.

Furthermore, the real cause of Iraq's problems is neither Iraq nor America. It is Britain and France who caused this mess.
 
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Obama said that "Al Qaeda is decimated". Another EPIC FAILURE by the LIAR in CHIEF. Anyone who voted for this failure of a President should ask for their vote back. PERIOD.
 
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tell that to the hundreds being slaughterred in Iraq today.. and the disgrace Obama is to allow our soliders to perish for NOTHING but his politcal gain... sounds to me like your have your eye on Obamas leg..

Take a note on this.

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Iraqis yes. Obama no.

Someone who isn't a raging out of control flaming at the mouth partisan hackjob will realize why the SOFA died.

A raging out of control flaming at the mouth partisan hackjob will keep blaming Obama for not keeping troops in Iraq without any realization of why the SOFA died.

Furthermore, the real cause of Iraq's problems is neither Iraq nor America. It is Britain and France who caused this mess.

Obama couldn't wait to get out of Iraq.
 
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Obama couldn't wait to get out of Iraq.
President Bush couldn't wait to get in to Iraq.
 
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President Bush couldn't wait to get in to Iraq.

We were already in Iraq.
 
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Obama couldn't wait to get out of Iraq.

President Bush couldn't wait to get in to Iraq.

Everyone couldn't wait to get out of Iraq once it was clear what a mess we were in.
 
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:lol:
 
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Everyone couldn't wait to get out of Iraq once it was clear what a mess we were in.

No, now it's a mess!
 
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Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance



Iraq is going down fast. The US should never have pulled troops out. We should have been resolved to be there for decades, like in Germany, Japan, and South Korea.

Wrong lesson. We never should have gone in.

This was nothing like those examples, and decades wouldn't have been long enough. Think centuries.
 
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