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House Majority Leader Cantor loses GOP primary to tea-party challenger[W:243:247:349]

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Sababa said:
Funny that was a GOP strategy in 2008. I think the whole process of the primary is stupid.

There is no infringement on rights, that is nonsense.
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Of course there's no infringement of rights that you can see... just the right of franchise and the First Amendment, but the left doesn't care about either of those, based on my experience debating on here with me in favor of Voter ID and other positions to protect citizen's franchise and free speech against the position taken by many on the left against them all (not all on the left, but most).
 
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Travis007 said:
you will be wipied out over this off the wall postion that the Dems are "pro all women"..
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Liberals are pro-equality. That doesn't entail that we have to give the Palins and Bachmanns of the world any credence sinply by virtue of their possession of a vagina.
 
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Travis007 said:
you will be wipied out over this off the wall postion that the Dems are "pro all women"..[
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Come back in thirty years and tell us who got wiped out by massive demographic change in the USA.




"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
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Gimmesometruth said:
ROFLOL!

Wow....that horse died YEARS ago!

I could point you here or here to counter this "job bill" BS, but hey, this is about Cantor.......and it is so chitty that you can't even get near the topic in any thread you post in.
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Easily amused aren't you ?

My post was actually in response to some Liberal's ridiculous assertion that the GOP has stopped Obama from being successful.

Now did Harry Reid's refusal to allow a vote on those jobs bills change history in some way ?

Those jobs bills were never submitted now ?
 
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shrubnose said:
Travis007 said:
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Come back in thirty years and tell us who got wiped out by massive demographic change in the USA.




"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
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Why would anyone be wiped out?

On the plus side, it's hoped Cantor's loss vaporizes the attempt to reward failures from failed countries to gain a legal foothold in the United States. Encouraging invasion from foreign countries has never sat well with the majority of citizens in this country, so my guess is the "running out of time" meme in nothing but wishful thinking by the radicals whose time has passed.
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ocean515 said:
shrubnose said:
Why would anyone be wiped out?

On the plus side, it's hoped Cantor's loss vaporizes the attempt to reward failures from failed countries to gain a legal foothold in the United States. Encouraging invasion from foreign countries has never sat well with the majority of citizens in this country,
so my guess is the "running out of time" meme in nothing but wishful thinking by the radicals whose time has passed
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Come back in thirty years and tell us how your guess panned out.




No one can stop time and/or change.
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Fenton said:
Easily amused aren't you ?

My post was actually in response to some Liberal's ridiculous assertion that the GOP has stopped Obama from being successful.

Now did Harry Reid's refusal to allow a vote on those jobs bills change history in some way ?

Those jobs bills were never submitted now ?
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Note1:You haven't figured out that the "jobs bills" argument is without foundation since they never were "jobs bills".

Note2: Get back to the topic because your off topic crap goes nowhere.
 
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Kobie said:
You do realize there is more than one poll, right?
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You do know that it appears from your post that it was YOU that is unware of that..

I see irony..
 
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shrubnose said:
Travis007 said:
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Come back in thirty years and tell us who got wiped out by massive demographic change in the USA.




"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
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Thats How Obama is destroying trhe country... not that you care.. Europe is already being actively destroyed by invasion of massive amounts of muslims to out populate and overthrow you .. our goal is to not become Europe
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Kobie said:
Liberals are pro-equality. That doesn't entail that we have to give the Palins and Bachmanns of the world any credence sinply by virtue of their possession of a vagina.
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You are so out to lunch and you are a hyprocrite..

is that why Obama ordered Hillary to destroy Palin..as a women..
that was just uncovered THIS WEEK..

the IRS scandel proves otherwise

your posts are laughable nonsense..
 
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Travis007 said:
you will be wipied out over this off the wall postion that the Dems are "pro all women"..
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We're pro-equality. Apparently you translated that as "can't ever criticize a woman for anything." Your silly notions are your problem.
 
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Travis007 said:
You are so out to lunch are a hyprocrite..

is that why Obama ordered Hillary to destroy Palin..as a women..
that was just uncovered THIS WEEK..

your posts are laughable nonsense..
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Nobody had to "destroy" Palin. She left professional politics in favor of selling books to dupes.
 
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Deuce said:
Nobody had to "destroy" Palin. She left professional politics in favor of selling books to dupes.
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Hillary apparently is following suit. Good point.
 
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Kobie said:
You do realize there is more than one poll, right?
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we know you use polls from The View..

must of us use real ones..
 
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Beaudreaux said:
Saying the word no is not the problem, and I agree that's it's a good word to use, especially in DC. The problem is no alternatives from the Tea Party and no ability to get anything done even if they did.

On immigration, there are laws already on the books now, that would secure the border, hold employers criminally and civilly liable for hiring illegals, and do nothing toward further amnesty. And, that... that was what Cantor stood for. The Democrats and the Tea Party inaccurately said that Cantor was in favor of amnesty - the Democrats so they could spin his willingness to even talk to them, ans the Tea Party so they could spin his willingness to talk as some sort of being a traitor to "the cause."
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I don't want anything done, unless its to role back or eliminate stuff. I don't want alternatives methods of me getting screwed. Because when Congress makes a law that's what they are doing screwing people. Congress does way TOO much. As far Cantor getting the boot, that's good, and I don't care why or how it happened. He was there too long in the first place. And since he was second in command it sends a wake up call to the rest of the vermin. Too bad that toad Grahmcracker wasn't sent packing with him.
 
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Zyphlin said:
No, it's not, because you're using a false equivilency.

If two people vote, and each vote for a different person, neither of them is "nullifying" the other persons vote. Rather, each is giving one vote for their given candidate. If they were actually "nullifying" each other's vote then the tally would not increase, as that vote would cease to exist within the system.

There is no supression of speech here. For there to be a supression of speech individuals would have to be kept from that speech...which is not the case. Rather, others are simply ALSO engaging in speech.

If I say RED is the best color in the world and you come over and say "No, BLUE is the best color in the world", your comment didn't "nullify" mine or "surpress" mine simply because it went a different direction. Rather, both of our instances of speech stand seperately.
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I'm discussing non-party votes in a party primary. Not the General Election.

In the General, yes, it is not. You are correct,

However, in the primary, when those of another party are allowed to participate in a party primary election of their choice to run in the General Election, they exercise their right that should be reserved for the General, and by doing so are not necessarily voting for the candidate for which they will cast their vote in favor of in the General Election. That is corruption of the process, by which party members votes are in fact nullified, not by legitimate votes for the others candidates of choice to win the final election in the General Election, but as an unfair pre-General Election influence to gain strategic, undue and unfair influence.

Look at it this way - if a corporate competitor was given access to another companies proposal to the government prior to submission for final award, and allowed to change strategic content or pricing, thereby giving the other company an undue advantage or strategic advantage to be awarded the contract, the contract award would be flawed at least, and potentially illegally interfered with in reality (bid rigging, coercion, conspiracy to defraud the government). In the private world, these types of influence are illegal, for a reason. But, for some reason, we have no problem allowing it in the most important process in our country, the election of our representatives to the government.
 
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Deuce said:
We're pro-equality. Apparently you translated that as "can't ever criticize a woman for anything." Your silly notions are your problem.
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You are "pro enslavement and equal unemployment and poverty for all"..
 
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Deuce said:
Nobody had to "destroy" Palin. She left professional politics in favor of selling books to dupes.
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we see the IRS scandel tell us otherwise..it was used to hurt the Tea Party after wiping the floor with the Libs at the mid terms..


good luck selling your lies to the dopes
 
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Beaudreaux said:
How can it not at least be a First Amendment issue? The primary is where each party has its members choose who they wish to have represent them in the General Election. If the party's members voice is nullified by members of the other party, it is suppression of speech. Regardless of which party. The General Election is where each side has the opportunity to vote for their candidate and/or against the other candidate. What an open primary allows, is the other party to interfere with the franchise right and the First Amendment right of the other party's members.

It should be illegal to do so. Regardless of party.
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No, a violation of rights would be deciding who gets to vote and who doesn't. If a communist wants to vote in a Republican primary, who the hell are you to say they can't?
 
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Travis007 said:
we see the IRS scandel tell us otherwise..it was used to hurt the Tea Party after wiping the floor with the Libs at the mid terms..


good luck selling your lies to the dopes
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Yeah, if only a bunch of random groups had tax-exempt status, that would have changed everything.
 
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Travis007 said:
shrubnose said:
Thats How Obama is destroying trhe country... not that you care.. Europe is already being actively destroyed by invasion of massive amounts of muslims to out populate and overthrow you ..
our goal is to not become Europe
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Guess what? According to the numbers from the U.S. Census Bureau, you're losing.

But believe what ever you want to believe. That won't cost me a penny.
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Beaudreaux said:
I'm discussing non-party votes in a party primary. Not the General Election.
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And that changes nothing. It still doesn't change the fact that anyone who puts in a vote has that vote counted...threfore no ACTUAL nullification is happening. One person votes, and that vote is tallied. Another person votes, and their vote is tallied. Neither vote "nullifies" the other.

Hell, a better argument could probably be made that DENYING people the ability to vote in an election and voice their approval for one candidate over another simply based on their party identification could be the thing that's infringing upon their speech ;)

If you want to say you have a problem with the open primary notion or that it's a corruption of the system...fine, that's debatable. I would probably even agree with that to a certain degree. But you're trying to suggeset that:

1. Their vote is nullified
2. Their "speech" is being surpressed

And factually those things are just not true. Disliking the process doesn't make them true.
 
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shrubnose said:
ocean515 said:
Come back in thirty years and tell us how your guess panned out.




No one can stop time and/or change.
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Where should we meet?

In fairness, it would seem that where you live, willingness to be invaded by foreign countries is part of the culture. Here, not so much.
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